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A Digital Certificate For Every Canadian

thepacketmaster writes "September 27 of this year, the Canadian government took a quiet step into the online world. Called Government Online, this broad project involves giving every Canadian citizen a digital certificate, which will allow citizens to access their personal government records online. So far they only have the Custom & Revenue Agency online with a simple Change of Address, but there are over a hundred more applications from various agencies ready to be put online. Could this be the start of something good, or is this Big Brother? How about voting online?"

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  1. well, depends by Em+Emalb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Could this be the start of something good, or is this Big Brother?"

    Depends. Yes, it could be Big Brother, if the government is planning on using this as a way to track people. It also could be something very good, in that people could quickly and easily track themselves through the government. Unfortunately, this could also be a means for people to track you quickly and easily....leading to all sorts of uncool cracking/piracy,theft. It's a new tech, gonna have it's problems just like everything else.

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  2. Security? by ilsa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate to throw cold water on this, but with a digital certificate, are you proving that you are Jean Deau, or that you are sitting at Jean Deau's computer? This distinction isn't that important for, say, your my.excite.com page, but is vital for dealing with the Government. The links provided don't really give much detail on how this will be implemented. Will each Canadian have his own password, eh? Not being a Canadian myself, I am willing to work with the assumptions that a) there is some way of telling John Smith of Quebec from John Smith of Vancouver b) a substantial enough percentage of Canadians have access to the internet to make this not a waste of time and money.

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  3. As long as you can revoke your cert by wirefarm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With pgp/gpg and keyservers like pgp.mit.edu, it's painfully simple to create and revoke keys that you control - as long as Canada picks a similar system, the citizens are still in control. If you feel your key has been compromised, revoke it and go create a new one next time you go to the post office or city hall, or however they verify people...

    I've *never* felt that having a digital ID was a threat to my privacy - if I control the keys, I can use the ID when I feel like proving who I am.
    Nothing stops me from generating a new ket for some other purpose either - I usually create one for each job/work-email that I use. I've had my private one since '96 or so - you can go grab it from my slashdot profile.

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    Jim

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  4. Re:Well by NumberSyx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Voting online is a bad idea regardless of the software used to implement it. Simply put, there is no guarrantee of privacy. By having people goto public locations with private booths, each persons privacy can be garranteed because there are people there whose job it is to ensure it. At home, an abusive wife can illegally influence her husband into voting for a candidate or issue he would have otherwise not voted for. Corporations or Labor Unions could setup computer voting centers for thier members or employees. What guarrantee is there the persons Boss or Union Leader won't be standing over thier shoulder or there isn't a keystroke capture program installed on the computer or the data stream isn't funneled into another program designed to change votes or somehow invalidate "Wrong" votes.

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  5. Netcraft by wiZd0m · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.gol-ged.gc.ca OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
    Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 12-Oct-2002 198.103.32.172 Finance Canada and Treasury Board Secretariat
    NT4/Windows 98 Microsoft-IIS/4.0 5-Apr-2002 198.103.32.172 Finance Canada and Treasury Board Secretariat
    NT4/Windows 98 Microsoft-IIS/4.0 23-Jan-2001 198.103.32.142 Finance Canada and Treasury Board Secretariat

    It does not look too good to me :(

  6. voting by JimBobJoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about voting online?

    What is there this mad rush to figure out how to make voting to work on the internet? I mean...you vote very close to where you live...you either care to vote, or you don't, online voting isn't going to change that. The technical hurdles are so big that I can't see how they are justifiable.

    Furthermore, Canada already has its own little system of voting (piece of paper, put x in your preferred candidates box) and it's cheap, easy to count, difficult to mess up, et cetera. It's we Americans, obsessed with technology, who have varying levels of expensive technology most of which more or less works the majority of the time. (Unlike the Canadian system which works all the time for pennies per election.)

  7. They already have the information by ACNeal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is information garnered by computer somehow more incideous than information garnered by more traditional means?

    The government already has the information, or will have recieved it anyway. They are using the certificates to give you access to your information, and not leave it available to other people. Even the information you will give or update would have been given to the government sooner or later.

    I don't see a way for the government to abuse your privacy with this anymore than if a data entry clerk had entered your request for a change of address at the local post office.