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Yahoo! Online Games Contain Spyware

An anonymous reader writes "I just noticed that yahoo.com is offering Civilization III for free, online. I figured it was too good to be true, so I actually read the EULA. Guess what, yahoo is now distributing spyware. The following is a cut and paste from their EULA: '5.Collection and Use of Registration and Usage Information. In connection with your use of the Applications on Demand Services, the installed software contains an application for the collection of data pertaining to your use of the Software and the operation of the Software. Furthermore, your Service Provider will collect data regarding what Applications you use, how long you use them and in which ways you use them (collectively, your "Usage Information"). You hereby give your consent to direct retrieval by Exent of the Usage Information collected by the Software and acknowledge that the Service Provider has agreed to provide the Usage Information gathered by it to Exent (without specifically identifying you). You agree that Exent may use your Usage Information by aggregating it with the Usage Information of other users of the Software to provide general statistics about the Applications on Demand Services as well as for purposes of making necessary adjustments and corrections in the Software as shall be deemed it by Exent at its sole discretion.'"

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  1. Not 100% true? by Trusty+Penfold · · Score: 5, Interesting
    When I signed up for Civilisation III, section 5 of the agreement read
    5. PLAYER DOWNLOAD
    The Player software is made available to you subject to the terms and conditions made accessible during the software installation process. In order to download the Player software, you must have a Windows 95, 98, ME, 2000 or XP operating system, as well as a Pentium 233MHz computer or faster, 64MB of RAM, 500MB of hard drive space, Direct X and compatible SVGA video and sound cards. You agree that it is your responsibility to review and evaluate the Player and the related terms and conditions, and that all risk associated with the use of, or reliance on, the Player rests with you. You further agree that Yahoo!, including its suppliers, shall not be responsible or liable, directly or indirectly, in any way for any loss or damage of any kind incurred as a result of, or in connection with your use of, or reliance on, any such software, including the failure of such software to meet your needs, standards, expectations or desired specifications.
    and there wasn't a section entitled "Collection and Use of Registration and Usage Information".

    I expect that the presence/absence of the clause depends on how interesting you are.

    I am, presumably, very boring and Yahoo doesn't care to know what I do. You must be either interesting or suspicious since Yahoo decided that they want to track you.
    1. Re:Not 100% true? by Ioldanach · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The full tos for the games on demand system is available at: http://gamesondemand.yahoo.com/play/adtos_nl and doesn't contain the implied statement. Also, I can't find anywhere that offers a free play of Civ III. If I could, I'd be happy to install and play it on an otherwise empty system at home. I'll be quite happy to skew their results with a barebones system.

  2. Time for a law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Requiring any software reporting back any data surreptitiously to have a separate click through granting permission. Also required should be periodic user reminders that the reporting back is happening.

  3. Just how powerful can an EULA be? by melquiades · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So does this mean that I could sell software to Yahoo! with an EULA that allows me to collect statistics on which applications they use, and for how long? On broader aspects of their business's internal functioning? What about an EULA that allows my software to trap keystrokes, gather passwords, and open backdoors on their servers?

    OK, so probably this Yahoo thing is blown out of proportion and context in typical Slashdot fashion. But imagine it's for real -- would an EULA like this stand if challenged? Why or why not?

    Calling all IANALs....

    1. Re:Just how powerful can an EULA be? by thefirelane · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So does this mean that I could sell software to Yahoo! with an EULA that allows me to...

      Correction: You could try to sell Yahoo software with this EULA.

      The difference is Yahoo! has a Team! of! Lawyers! to read each one of these things, whereas Joe consume does not, nor does he have the time...

      Let's also face another depressing question here... does Joe consume care all that much? Especially if he can get Civ III for free?


      ---Lane

  4. a Link by liquidice5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I tried to provide everyone with a link
    but if Yahoo is providing this for free,
    I cannot seem to find a link to it,

    however, I did find this...

    http://games.yahoo.com/games/downloads/promo/promo _civ_nl.hf2k

    from there you have to click "sign up and play"
    now, then sign in with a yahoo ID,
    click "continue to rent game"
    just click "single game rental" for this
    then the last step before the EULA, in which there is nothing from the above quote

    which calls into the validity of the above story

    --

    Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody is looking - H.L. Mencken
  5. Re:Bullshit. by ccady · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Furthermore, your Service Provider will collect data regarding what Applications you use, how long you use them and in which ways you use them (collectively, your "Usage Information").

    This is not limited to the games you download. If you see nothing wrong with this, then you need a new monitor.

    Morons yourself.

    --
    J'aime mieux les méchants que les imbéciles, parce qu'ils se reposent. -- Alexandre Dumas
  6. Re:Bullshit. by PhilHibbs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Assuming that this story is even true, I'd imagine that earlier in the EULA it defines the term "Applications" to mean the "Applications on Demand Services" (the capital letter is a giveaway that this is an EULA term), so it isn't going to monitor your use of KaZaA, Mozilla, etc.