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Retro Activity: MorphOS 1.0

An anonymous reader submites: "You can read it from their development page if you like to get the word from the horses mouth. 'The current version is 1.0. Feedback welcome.' Hey, if you can't revive a dead horse, whip it some more, yeah?" All the better to run programs on their "old Commodore(TM) A1000, A500, A2000, A1200, A3000(T) and A4000(T) systems as efficiently as possible." Everyone has different uses for time.

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  1. Its not for C64 by ageitgey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unlike the post says, this isn't an OS for the old Commodore computers. This is a reimplementation of that old OS for PowerPC machines. They are trying to maintain API compatibility so you can run the old programs right on a PowerPC box.

    From the website:
    "Under the Quark kernel a PowerPC(TM) native reimplementation of the OS we know from the Commodore(TM) A1000, A500, A2000, A1200, A3000(T) and A4000(T) systems runs as a mixture of a virtual emulation and a driver. We call this OS driver from now on the A-Box."

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    1. Re:Its not for C64 by fod · · Score: 5, Informative
      Unlike the post says, this isn't an OS for the old Commodore computers. This is a reimplementation of that old OS for PowerPC machines. They are trying to maintain API compatibility so you can run the old programs right on a PowerPC box.


      Actually, it does run on Amigas with PowerPC CPUs too.

      http://www.morphos.de/support.php3
      Platform: Pegasos, A4000(T), A3000(T), A1200
    2. Re:Its not for C64 by operagost · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'd have to disagree, considering that I saw both 2-D animation and fairly nice (dunno, maybe a hundred polygons) 3-D models running at 60 fps on an A1200 in 1994. That was a 68020 at 12 MHz, mind you! Blame it on the custom chips.

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  2. Morphos screenshots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    OSNews had an informative article a few days ago about Morphos. Check the article and 2 screenshots of the OS here:

    http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1897

  3. Try again.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's basically a OS that runs on a new system, but also supports Amiga 3000's, 1200's, and 4000's with PPC Accelerator boards in it.

    It also is competing with Amiga OS 4.0 which will run on the same accelerated Amiga's AND the new Amiga One.

    1. Re:Try again.... by Seehund · · Score: 2, Informative

      "New Amiga One"? Is there a NEW Amiga?

      No, there isn't. There will be no more Amigas, instead future versions of AmigaOS will run on third party hardware (and on Amigas with PPC accelerators). Mai Logic's Teron CX POP motherboard is one such piece of hardware, although AmigaOS will only be allowed to run on this board when it's renamed "AmigaOne G3SE" and distributed by Eyetech Ltd.. Hardware must be licensed, provide a hardware-license verification mechanism (known as "anti-piracy measures" in the marketing waffle) and be sold by a licensed distributor in order to be allowed to run AmigaOS, and AmigaOS will only be available bundled with such hardware.

      This hardware licensing scheme was designed by Amiga Inc. with "consultation" from Eyetech, and it's hardly surprising that Eyetech is the only hardware distributor that has acquired such a license.

      There was once upon a time going to be newly designed, proprietary Amiga hardware, back when Eyetech was a "hardware partner" of Amiga Inc. These "AmigaOne 1200/4000" boards never appeared, and instead third party hardware is to be used (although the advantages of getting rid of "Amiga" hardware are negated with this compulsory licensing madness).

      Read more about it here.

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  4. Re:Where? by subuni · · Score: 5, Informative

    The closest I can find to an announcement is at http://www.morphos-news.de. v1.0 will be released on Oct 14 to "betatesters".

  5. MorphOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    This OS is made in the "spirit" of the AmigaOS, but with all the stuff a modern os should have, plus it runs Amiga programs through a combination of 68k emulation and the AmigaOS api ported to PowerPC. There is also a PowerPC motherboard being made especially for the os, called Pegasos, Thendic France is the main distributor. MorphOS just got bumped to release version 1.0 and both the motherboard and OS are available for sale.

    This motherboard also comes with a version of linux for PPC. Besides that MorphOS will also run on Amigas equiped with a PPC cpu and rumour goes a PowerMac version could be released one day.

  6. Intended hardware. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    MorphOS is intended for the POP-compliant Pegasos PowerPC board from bPlan. Note that while a Realtek PHYceiver is listed, that's just the PHY; the ethernet controller itself is a Via Rhine derivative embedded in the southbridge. Pictures here. It can also run on classic Amigas with appropriate PowerPC accellerators; NetBSD is also being readied for the bPlan hardware.

    AmigaOS 4 is the 'name-brand' product, being produced under contract by Germany's Hyperion Software. It's intended for Eyetech's AmigaOne G3SE and XE products, and Elbox's SharkPPC accellerator in classic hardware with suitable PCI busboards. Hardware dongling of the AmigaOne (with respect to AmigaOS; Linux and *BSD will run unhindered), and continuing intellectual-property disputes may or may not effect the chances of OS4 support for the Pegasos.

    All three new PowerPC boards use MAI's PowerPC chipsets, also seen on the Linux-friendly Barbie.

    Nor should we forget 'AmigaDE' or 'Amiga-Anywhere,' a crossplatform system based on Tao's Intent runtime + media libs, which is really quite cool even if they've just redesigned their site opaquely. the CEO of Gentoo provides a good writeup here.

  7. Re:Apple PPC's? by Seehund · · Score: 2, Informative

    highly unlikely.

    For starters, they're fundamentally different architectures.


    What the article fails to mention is that MorphOS will be shipped on (together with Yellow Dog Linux) an in-house designed POP-based OpenFirmware-equipped motherboard called Pegasos. While different from a New World PowerMac, it's not "fundamentally different architectures". This board already runs OSX with Mac-On-Linux. MorphOS on (reasonably modern) Mac hardware is quite likely, though not in its initial release.

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  8. All your Boing are belong to us, NOT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry!

    Unless this is an Amiga Inc. story, It shouldnt run with the Amiga Boing Ball Logo (i.e. The Origional 1985, 8 x 8 checker pattern).

    MorphOS has a great logo: so thier stories should use the propper butterfly. Its a really nice logo too... . . . .

  9. Re:Great Day! by dumbnose · · Score: 3, Informative
    and NT- an even bigger ball of bloat, being at heart a reimplimentation of OS/2's C sources in C++- was reborn as Win2k about 4 years later.


    NT is not written in C++, it is mostly C (with some assembly, obviously). It is also not a reimplementation of OS/2. As a matter of fact, it looks a helluva lot more like VMS than OS/2. Sure, the kernel and executive both handle objects, but not in the C++ sense. They are really just C structs that the kernel and executive keep track of and make sure don't leak (all get freed when an application terminates, if the app forgot to free them itself).

  10. Re:Great Day! by photon317 · · Score: 3, Informative


    It is based on OS/2 code though. Breifly and somewhat inaccurately - the history goes that IBM and Microsoft were originally jointly developing OS/2 as a next-generation graphical multitasking OS for the PC. I believe version 1.0 of OS/2 was actually called "Microsoft OS/2", but it didn't get much notice. Microsoft and IBM had a falling out - they split up, each retaining the rights to re-use the existing OS/2 code, but only IBM keeping the actual OS/2 name. From at least OS/2 1.3 onwards it was all IBM.

    Microsoft used the OS/2 kernel to base NT off of. As late as NT4, and quite likely still in 2k and XP, if you search the binaries in winnt\system32\.... you can still find OS2 error messages embedded deep in some DLLs - so apparently the code is still in use to this day.

    I might, just for the record - that IBM released OS/2 2.1 (which had a Win95-level GUI and better-than-NT true protection and multitasking, and Win3.1 application compatibility) before Microsoft ever released Win95 or the first commercial NT. But Microsoft actually beat this released product into the ground with FUD about the upcoming offerings. Sure enough well down the road they did eventually release 95 with a decent GUI, and NT with a half-decent kernel. But at the time of OS/2 2.1, all they had to compete with was Win 3.1.

    I migh also add it took until NT4 years later for Microsoft to put a 95-style GUI into their NT kernel, and it took until the recent release of XP before an NT system was considered good enough for home/desktop use to replace the 95 line of products. OS/2 was always a good desktop OS.

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