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Former FBI Chief Keeps Up Anti-Crypto Campaign

ganns.com writes "Former FBI director Louis Freeh is urging lawmakers to limit encryption products that don't include backdoors for government surveillance." Still urging, that is.

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  1. They can urge all they want by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ive got pig latin, paper and pencil, and too much free time on my hands. Lets see them decrypt my mail. Even I cant read my damn handwriting.

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  2. Not quite related to encryption... by questionlp · · Score: 4, Interesting
    but it looks like the Appeals court has OK'd fax interception (as per this News.com article).

    One piece at a time, the DOJ (which oversees the FBI) is pulling privacy and our rights out from beneath us.

  3. Re:Legality by DustMagnet · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Terrorist can always just use codes words. For all you know, when I say "blueberry" in a comment, I'm telling all my friends I'm going to have a big party next Friday.

    Outlawing (or discouraging) encryption hurts innocent people far more than terrorist or your favorate evil of the day.

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  4. Red Herring, and LIES by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The man is a disingenous fraud, a good politician, and an incompetant in the fields of security and intelligence.

    Freeh needs to find a whipping boy for the failures of correlating the various peices intelligence datum, which occurred on his watch. Restricting legal access to crypto will only assist in the illicit observation of constitutionally protected speech by private individuals, and destroy what little competitive advantage is enjoyed by U.S. software industries over their counterparts in Israel and India.

    The algorithms and the source will not go "back in the can."

    Louis Freeh is responsible, in a large part, for the biggest intelligence failure in modern recollection. None of the failure in this effort was for lack of access to encrypted communications, but from standard failures of organization and communications within the concerned agencies.

    The Heritage Foundation - not normally critical of the FBI's mission - has this to say:

    But what if FBI intelligence fails to collect, analyze and share this information? This could happen, the commission found, because "the guidelines under which FBI agents operate ... are badly written and confusing. These are guidelines that set out the terms under which the FBI can open a preliminary inquiry against somebody who may be suspected of being a terrorist. All of us read them (they run to about 42 pages) and we had a number of current and former FBI agents testify that they found them confusing."

    The commission recommended that then Attorney General Janet Reno and former FBI Director Louis Freeh rewrite the guidelines into "more easily understood English."

    Moreover, the FBI had no procedure for disseminating useful information for analysis within the agency or sharing it with other government agencies.

    Information which was obtained, in Los Angeles, for example, but did not immediately apply to the case at hand, would simply not leave the regional office, even though it might provide important clues for another investigation, says Ambassador L. Paul Bremer, Ambassador at Large for Counterintelligence during the Reagan Administration and former Managing Director of Kissinger Associates.

    Encryption wasn't used in this instance. No evidence for it has ever been found. Freeh has a broader, more insidious agenda here, involving free speech and civil liberties. Unfortunately, the record shows that deep, analytical thinking about these issues is outside the grasp of the majority of America's elected representatives.
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    1. Re:Red Herring, and LIES by neocon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Kids these days...

      Actually, the record shows that despite a lot of lobbying by the Clinton administration, spearpointed by Freeh himself, our representatives made the right choice, and said no to key escrow.

      In other words, despite the efforts of those like Freeh, the system's worked pretty well at safeguarding people's rights...

    2. Re:Red Herring, and LIES by jeffy124 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The algorithms and the source will not go "back in the can."

      I believe the proper & more accurate expression is "getting toothpaste back in the tube"

      Also, he must think terrorists are idiots. If you knew that Country X required backdoors in crypto products, would you buy a crypto product made in Country X and then use it to hide plans about lauching attacks against Country X? It doesnt take much for terrorists to get their encryption products from more lenient sources - like Canada for example.

      And like you said, it's already out there, and ain't goin back.

      Frankly - I dont think his urging will go very far beyond discussions like these.

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    3. Re:Red Herring, and LIES by lal · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to Ronald Kessler, author of The Bureau: The Secret History of the FBI, Freeh is also responsible for the failure of the FBI to keep up with technology. At the end of Freeh's tenure, FBI agents were using 486-class computers and had to email attachments to home computers to transmit pictures. Freeh resisted upgrading the FBI mainframe infrastructure as well. He's clearly not capable of making judgments about crypto.

    4. Re:Red Herring, and LIES by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      >The algorithms and the source will not go "back in the can."
      I believe the proper & more accurate expression is "getting toothpaste back in the tube"


      I much preffer a quote from Joe Garelli on News Radio - "You can't take something off the Internet. That's like trying to take the pee out of a swimming pool".

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  5. Cat's already out of the bag by Gerry+Gleason · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You can't take away the technical capability to encrypt because this is already widely distributed code. Even when it was illegal to export strong encryption, people just based any software product that did this someplace else. It's a global neighborhood, at least when it comes to tech savy groups.

    As a practical matter, basic encryption needs to be part of a lot of emerging systems. There is so much going on in digital wireless, and it isn't going to stop soon. With processors getting faster each year, you have to up the number of bits in your encryption just to stay ahead of what can be broken with commodity hardware and dumb software (brute force).

    The government will always have access to the means to decrypt codes that wouldn't be practical for anyone else. The question becomes whether it makes any sense to limit most uses of crypto to a level between what is easy, and what the government can decrypt with some effort. They don't seem to be doing too well catching people who aren't using any crypto, so what's the point.

    IMHO, the only thing that can be accomplished is to hurt commerce and individual privacy. It is often just a matter of setting parameters to set the length of keys and such, and they are going to make companies who do anything with encryption do extra paperwork and such to track it. And god forbid you want to user GnuPG for anything. I'm sure they want to outlaw that completely.

  6. Impact upon Palladium / DRM in hardware by bloo9298 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, if Freeh managed to get a law enforcement backdoor into every crypto device and it applied to Palladium and other DRM systems implemented in hardware, then those systems would be considerably more vulnerable!

    Maybe Freeh isn't so bad after all. :-)

  7. Ask Security Services to deny this by Garry+Anderson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have posted similar comment a couple of times before - the logic is undeniable. Nobody has ever gave reasoned argument against it:

    Ask Security Services in the US, UK or Indonesia (Bali) to deny this:

    Internet surveillance, using Echelon, Carnivore or back doors in encryption, will not stop terrorists communicating by other means - most especially face to face or personal courier.

    Terrorists will have to do that, or they will be caught.

    Perhaps using mobile when absolutely essential, saying - Meet you in the pub Monday (human bomb to target A), or Tuesday (target B) or Sunday (abort).

    The Internet has become a tool for government to snoop on their people - 24/7.

    The terrorism argument is a dummy - bull*.

    SURVEILLANCE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP TERRORISTS - IT IS SPIN AND PROPAGANDA

    This propaganda is for several reasons, including: a) making you feel safer b) that the government are doing something and c) the more malicious motive of privacy invasion.

    Government say about surveillance - you've nothing to fear - if you are not breaking the law

    This argument is made to pressure people into acquiescence - else appear guilty of hiding something.

    It does not address the real reason why they want this information (which they will deny) - they want a surveillance society.

    They wish to invade your basic human right to privacy. This is like having somebody watching everything you do - all your personal thoughts, hopes and fears will be open to them.

    This is everything - including phone calls and interactive TV. Quote from CNET: "Whether you're just accessing a Web site, placing a phone call, watching TV or developing a Web service, sometime in the not to distant future, virtually all such transactions will converge around Internet protocols."

    All your finances for them to scrutinize - heaven help you if you cannot account for every cent when they check on your taxes.

    Do not believe the LIES of Government - even more of your money spent on these measures will not protect us from terrorists.

    P.S. On the Domain Name System, big business steal words that belong to everybody - abridging what words you can use - violating the First Amendment. Corporations illegally abuse and expand their brand using domain names - above all smaller businesses who use similar words - violating Competition Law.

    The authorities LIE - they know how to make these trademark domains unique and totally distinctive, as the LAW requires trademarks to be. They are aiding and abetting the pervertion of Law. Please visit the World Intellectual Piracy Organization - not connected with United Nations WIPO.org !

  8. Can't turn back the clock. :) by Jonny+290 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't give a flying fuck what Louis Freeh urges, says, mandates, preaches, or invokes. I've got PGP, GPG, and several other crypto programs, as well as the full manuals and docs burned to high-quality CD-R in triplicate, stored in three geographically diverse locations.

    Try to 'urge' those out of my possession.

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  9. Re:Legality by BitterOak · · Score: 4, Funny
    For example; personal, non-secret, communication should not be encrypted.

    I agree. I've also started flying only in the nude. The fewer clothed passengers there are in airports, the more time security officers can concentrate their searches on those who are potentially hiding something under their clothes.

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