Mac OS X to Get Journaling FS

overunderunderdone writes "According to eWeek, Apple Computer is planning to introduce a new journaling file system code-named 'Elvis' with the 10.2.2 release. Supposedly it will run on top of HFS+ and will be turned off by default. Though it will cost you 10% to 15% performance penalty the article says it is more extensive than NTFS and is on par with BeOS's 64-bit journaling file system. Not surprising since it is being developed by the same person - Dominic Giampaolo." I've been super impressed by OS X having used it as my primary laptop for the last couple weeks. It really is a great unix box- and this is one of the important missing puzzle pieces.

Comments

You can give me a journaling FS

[Faggot]

...when you pry HFS+ from my cold, dead hands.

No, wait. Give me that.

so when you unmount...

[Hooya]

do you get an "Elvis has left the building" message?

But will it Blog?

[Gorm the DBA]

yeah, yeah, yeah...Journaling is sooo 1990's.

A new and cool feature would be a file system that maintained a Weblog...

Today I stored my user's tax return...what a piece of crap...he actually expects the IRS to believe that he donated 40,000 to the MDA?...I think I'll just switch a few numbers around and drop a hint to the audit hotline

Yeah, that could be good...where's the SourceForge project for this?

System Error

[jbarket]

Disk Read Failure: The King is dead.

Re:Existing Journaling Systems?

[Anonymous Coward]

And that is why on *BSD will never be deployed in the enterprise.

Very astute. It was Windows 98's excellent FAT32 file system that led to its adoption at this and so many other enterprises.

Answer unclear, ask again.

[El_Smack]

Do I see an Apple "switcher" ad featuring CmdrTaco in the near future?

Re:Existing Journaling Systems?

[falzer]

Soft-Updates

Unix using a feature with unabbreviated, capitalized words? What is the world coming to?

Re:10-15%

[marhar]

Most people (as in AOL Grandmas)

I think this will also benefit the AOL Grandma crowd. Can you imagine their reaction upon booting up with a dirty partition and having to go into single-user mode and repair a filesystem?

Re:I wanna see CmdrTaco on TV

[Anonymous Coward]

"I was compiling this SMB client ... on the PC... and it was like BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP. And then... like... half of my code was gone. And I was like... nnngh? It devoured... my code. It was really good code. And then I had to write it again and I had to do it fast so it wasn't as good. It's kind of... .... a bummer. I'm Rob Malda and I crash websites by posting them to Slashdot."

tee hee

Re:Can this be rolled back into the BSDs?

[cant_get_a_good_nick]

Hmm, Nazi-esque? I can see the conversation now..

Nazi SYS5 init architect:

Mein Furher! Ve needen maken startup of system harrrrrder to administrrrrate. Ist too eazy now. Even girly non-blue eyed non-Aryans can administrate serrrrvers now.

SVR4 Nazi Furher:

Ja wohl!!! How can we skrrrrrrew de administrrrrators?

Nazi SYS5 init architect:

split ze starrrrtup scripts, makingkt dem more komplicated.

Umm, I don't think that happened. I find SVR4 style easier. Every service in it's own seperate file. Ever try to start a system server on BSD by hand? It's harder than you think. In SV$ land, I can take any server down by running a kill script and restart it by running its startup script. hell, even FreeBSD has a SVR4 style init directory (granted, only for a single run level now). And if it's all that hard, just make /etc/rc3.d/S99local and run your stuff form there. RedHat (and probably most other Linuxes) have runlevel editors that make administration pretty easy.

Hmm, Berkeleyness of Berkeley software, who knew?

FreeBSD (maybe all {Free,Net,Open}BSDs) uses SoftUpdates, which in some ways is better than journalling, depending on what you want.