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The End Of Minix?

Otter writes "Minix is best known as the Unix clone for x86 that inspired Linus Torvalds to write one himself. It's pretty much dropped off the map since. The latest patch for XFree86's xterm drops support for Minix. As the changelog notes, 'Juliusz Chroboczek noted it was removed from XFree86 server; there have been no users since 1996.'"

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  1. The question is by Compact+Dick · · Score: 5, Funny

    will Andrew T. [Minix's creator] start another flame war? :-)

    1. Re:The question is by Soko · · Score: 4, Funny

      Doubt it, though I wonder if Mr. Tanenbaum will ever want to change his mind and give Mr. Tovalds "a passing grade" for his kernel design. ^_^

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  2. If Linus were Homer... by stevens · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I'd expect to see a post to comp.os.minix that had a single line:

    In your face, Tanenbaum!

    1. Re:If Linus were Homer... by Timmeh · · Score: 5, Funny
      Man, I was going to wait until Google groups cached this so I could provide an HTML link, but it just can't wait.
      From: "Kevin Snaden" <kevin@technokev.com>
      Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
      Subject: In your face, Tanenbaum!
      Message-ID: <UF5r9.538333$Ag2.20790885@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>
      Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 04:11:32 GMT

      In your face, Tanenbaum!
      It would seem someone took your advice :P Made *me* laugh.
  3. is this really a question? by Anonymous+Cowrad · · Score: 5, Funny

    If there have been no users since 1996, is there really a need for the question mark in this article's headline?

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    1. Re:is this really a question? by BitGeek · · Score: 5, Funny


      There are 25 million mac users, at least.

      I'm not aware of any hippie communes that got larger than 25 people total-- at some point the fighting over women destroys the idea.

      On the other hand, there were some religious sects that were able to grow their communes much more, and were much bigger than 25 people.

      But they were only able to do this because they used religion to eliminate sex, and its attending issues.

      Since Mac users get far more sex than the average computer user, (according to Gartner and IDC) this is not the case for Apple's market.

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  4. Eh by Junky191 · · Score: 5, Funny

    *Pours out some of the Colt 45 for the OS's from my hood that didn't make it* I'll miss you man.

    1. Re:Eh by murr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Propz to my dead Kernelz!

  5. Minix is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Minix is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Minix community when last month IDC confirmed that Minix accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Minix has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Minix is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Minix's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Minix because Minix is dying. Things are looking very bad for Minix As many of us are already aware, Minix continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Minix leader Julien states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of X86 Minix are there? Let's see. The number of X86 Minix versus 68K Minix posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 68K Minix users. PPC Minix posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of 68K Minix posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of PPC Minix. A recent article put X86 Minix at about 80 percent of the Minix market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 X86 Minix users. This is consistent with the number of X86 Minix Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, Minix went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that Minix has steadily declined in market share. Minix is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Minix is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. Minix continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Minix is dead.

    Minix is dying

  6. No its, Minix is dying by toupsie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Netcraft has now confirmed: Minix is dead Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Minix community when recently IDC confirmed that Minix accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraftsurvey which plainly states that Minix has mo market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Minix is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin operating system awareness test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Minix's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Minix faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Minix because Minix is dead. Things are looking very bad for Minix. As many of us are already aware, Minix has no market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. Minix is the most endangered of all operating systems, having lost 99.99999% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
    Juliusz Chroboczek noted it was removed from XFree86 server; there have been no users since 1996. This is consistent with the number of Minix related XFree86 Usenet posts.

    All major surveys show that Minix has steadily declined in market share. Minix is very sick and its long term survival prospects are nil. If Minix is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. Minix continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Minix is dead.

    Minix is dead.
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  7. The real reason why Minix died by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    McVoy issued another clause to his ButtKeeper license stating those working on Minix can go fuck themselves. Linus agreed. Then Larry started to throw his own feces around. At that point Linus was strangely silent, looking down at his feet uncomfortably.

  8. The REAL Question is by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is wrong with the slashdot editors that they can't call it by its proper name: GNU/Minix !!!!

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  9. Does this mean... by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 2, Funny

    That we'll never see a Beowulf cluster of Minix machines?

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  10. Minix to Linux by Skjellifetti · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't remember where I saw the thread, probably a Linux kernel news group eight or so years ago, but there was a friendly "I've used Linux longer than you" discussion where the winning entry said that they still had an entry for ast in /etc/passwd.

    I've still got an IBM PC w/ a 10 MB HD that has Minix installed. I keep meaning to get rid of it, but just can't quite bring myself to do so. Someday I'll do it and then I'll probably see the same model being appraised for a small fortune on Antiques Roadshow.

  11. I'm going to be the only user! by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm downloading it now, just to say I'm the only user left!

    Please, dont download it and ruin it for me.

  12. Re:so XFree86 = usage stattistics? by Vess+V. · · Score: 2, Funny

    games.

  13. As with BeOS, the M$ monopoly strikes again!!! by timeOday · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not really :)

  14. +1, Funny by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 4, Funny

    A new variant on the tired:

    "God is dead" - Nietzsche
    "Nietzsche is dead" - God

    can be:

    "Linux is obsolete" - Andy Tannenbaum
    "Minix is obsolete" - Linus Torvalds

    1. Re:+1, Funny by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm honored. Here are some more Tanenbaum quotes:

      "As a result of my occupation, I think I know a bit about where operating are going in the next decade or so."

      "To me, writing a monolithic system in 1991 is a truly poor idea."

      "... my guess is that the fraction of the 60 million existing PCs that are 386/486 machines as opposed to 8088/286/680x0 etc is small. ... Making software free, but only for folks with enough money to buy first class hardware is an interesting concept. Of course 5 years from now that will be different, but 5 years from now
      everyone will be running free GNU on their 200 MIPS, 64M SPARCstation-5."

  15. Re:so XFree86 = usage stattistics? by kousik · · Score: 2, Funny
    > At least get some real proof it is dead before you put such
    > scandalous headlines on the frontpage ;)

    I remember the best joke of this year. In short: two friends goes hunting and one of them loses consciousness due to exhaustion. His friend seeks help on his cellphone: "Help! My friend is dead". The helpline says "Don't panic, I can help. Let's make sure he is dead". A moment of silence, then a gunshot. "Now what?".

  16. Re:What I would like to know is... by falzer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, you never know when all hell could break loose. That's why you should keep an old vt100 behind a glass case for when the shit hits the fan, and you need a terminal, pronto!

    "BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY"

  17. Re:OT: Your sig by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 3, Funny

    This one's better. (Stolen from Fark)

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  18. Aw man... by Lord+Puppet · · Score: 5, Funny


    I just installed Minix on my XBox, and now I find out that it's dead.

  19. Re:Minux is a teaching OS by lburdet · · Score: 2, Funny
    Comparing Minux to Linux is like comparing a wagon to a Lexus. Minux was never designed to be a production O/S. It was designed to teach for students taking a first course in operating systems design.

    if it's "Minux" for you, surely you mean a "Lexis"?

  20. You know... by Loki_1929 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know, there's some poor bastard out there reading this on a machine running Minix who just read the line, "no one's used it since 1996". Imagine for a moment, if you will, how that person must feel right now...

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  21. Re:Minix is a toy by jsse · · Score: 3, Funny

    If Minix had been released under GPL, Linus might have simply written patches for it, rather than ginning up his own project.

    And Linus wouldn't have to argue with AST. Look at my sig.

  22. Re:so XFree86 = usage stattistics? by jeremyp · · Score: 3, Funny

    If it wasn't installed, everybody would think FreeBSD is dead like Minix.

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  23. Re:What I would like to know is... by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 3, Funny

    >Well, you never know when all hell could break
    >loose. That's why you should keep an old vt100
    >behind a glass case for when the shit hits the fan,
    >and you need a terminal, pronto!

    I know you're joking, but There Was This One Site...

    We got a call from another office in our organization asking if we still had any VT100s, their last terminal had just died. We did not have any, and we asked them why they wanted one...

    The were using them to configure hubs/switches etc, and didn't realize that any old PC running Procomm or Telix etc. would be an acceptable VT100 replacement.

    I can just imagine those guys lugging around VT100s to set up new hubs, heh heh.

    Our solution wasn't sexy, we had a 286 monochrome laptop with Procomm, but it sure was portable.

  24. Coherent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, as long as they don't drop support for Coherent, I'll be happy. :-)

  25. One of my favorite IRC quotes - by Discoflamingo13 · · Score: 2, Funny
    <Spamizbad> minix is the baddass hardcore 16bit unix from the rough side of town
  26. Re:so XFree86 = usage stattistics? by arkanes · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't even really want to think about what kind of freak gets off looking at the ALT tags of porn pictures.