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Jet Turbine Locomotives

An anonymous submitter writes "I saw this article in the paper today. Not only is it lighter than a comparable diesel engine, it should burn the fuel more completely and be a bit better for the environment. Not to mention it is much faster. They should make more of a point that the North American railway system needs a major overhaul in order to support faster trains." The Department of Transportation has some information about next-generation trains, including a design incorporating a flywheel to improve acceleration.

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  1. Pikers by 0WaitState · · Score: 4, Funny

    Spokesman Warren Flatau of the Railroad Administration said the agency has invested $13 million US in developing the turbine-powered locomotive since about 1997. With Bombardier matching that, JetTrain has cost at least $41 million Cdn so far.

    Don't they know you have to charge the US Gubmint at least $500 million to get any attention? There's not enough pork in this project for it to go anywhere.

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  2. Make your own jet engine by PhysicsScholar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Few know that the first practical gas turbine was made by a couple gentlemen who weren't even sure that it would actually work.

    But, these days it's almost a trivial task to make your own. Jet engines take air in the front at low speed and chuck it out the back at high speed.

    So, with that in mind, I could easily throw one of these together over a lunch break. All you need are a propane torch, a ten centimetre square sheet of foil, one of those hole punches, and a five centimetre square of brass metal.

    Make the nozzle fairly long for more power. If you want to have a nice methane-excretion sound like some teens' automobiles, poke a few dozen holes on the inside of the nozzle.

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    1. Re:Make your own jet engine by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Stop getting excited when you hear the words "jet engine."

      Stop trying to ruin my action-packed vision of a mass winning of the Darwin Award.

  3. This will never be effective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you think the roads are bad in your state, you should see some of the rails- sure, the railroads spend money on upkeep, but in many places the parallelness of the rails can deviate as much as 10 degrees and still be within spec.

    When trains encounter such areas of track, they simply slow down and take that spot "easy". Not ideal for high speed "bullet" trains.

    If the railroads decided to replace all the old section rails with ribbon rails, then you might have a different outlook on such a technology.

    Also, without being too much of a know it all, I'd have to point out that harmonic vibration of the railcars moving at such elevated speeds could cause a derailment for no reason other than the train was moving too quickly.

  4. Turbine. Pfffft. by El_Smack · · Score: 5, Funny


    I was in a secret railroad switch-house last week, and I stumbled upon a locomotive that had been sitting there since 1880. It was fusion powered. The reactor ran on GARBAGE no less! It could levitate and even looked capable of time travel. The security guard who let me in said his only instructions were to wait for a man named "Doc Brown" to show up.

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  5. Re:Noise by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    Living next to a railway crossing - I wonder how loud it's going to be

    In the railroads' minds, louder is safer. They'll probably take advantage of the jet exhaust by routing it through a huge whistle and horn. It will continuously emit a piercing, deafening alien wail audible dozens of miles away. Railroad crossing accidents will become a thing of the past, because it will be too painful to remain near the tracks as the train approaches.

  6. Re:Not actually getting thrust from the jet by uradu · · Score: 4, Funny

    > You're talking about steel wheels on a steel track

    If they were smart, they'd put rubber bands around the driving wheels, just like model trains to get more traction. But of course they didn't ask me.

  7. Re:Noise by littlerubberfeet · · Score: 3, Funny

    Think "Pushing Tin"

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  8. Re:Noise by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > In the railroads' minds, louder is safer. They'll probably take advantage of the jet exhaust by routing it through a huge whistle and horn. It will continuously emit a piercing, deafening alien wail audible dozens of miles away. Railroad crossing accidents will become a thing of the past, because it will be too painful to remain near the tracks as the train approaches.

    You're an optimist... I predict lawsuits from grieving parents of Darwinbait.

    "B-b-b-but the trains are so loud now, they practically forced Johnny to floor it and drive around the gates at the railroad crossing! When they made new trains that could go twice as fast as the old trains, why couldn't they also make them able to stop faster, too? Waaaah!"

  9. Re:Turbine. Pfffft. by buck_wild · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Where we're going, we don't *need* roads."

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  10. Slashdotters *are* trainspotters! by aquarian · · Score: 3, Funny

    I knew Slashdotters were just a big bunch of trainspotters, and now they're all coming out of the woodwork. This is amusing...

  11. Would the engine reverse stop the train faster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If it can stop an airplane...

  12. Re:Sounds good by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let me get this straight: The TGV runs at 320mph... on tracks rated for 250mph. Oh, that's gonna be fun.

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  13. THE ONLY PROBLEM... by crazyhorse44 · · Score: 2, Funny

    is that the exhaust is so hot, it melts the asphalt off of any underpass that it passes under too slowly.

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  14. Re:Simple Solution by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
    > > "B-b-b-but the trains are so loud now, they practically forced Johnny to floor it and drive around the gates at the railroad crossing! When they made new trains that could go twice as fast as the old trains, why couldn't they also make them able to stop faster, too? Waaaah!"> > There's a simple solution to that: why not route some of the jet exhaust out of the front of the train. Kind of like a reverse mounted jet engine. Then, when the train needs to stop quickly, the engineer fires up the jet and STOPS.

    *evil grin*

    I'd love to see that in action. Johnny's pick-me-up truck gets incinerated in a blast of jet wash, windows implode, and then the train, still travelling at 140 MPH, (because even a jet engine producing 50,000 pounds of thrust doesn't do much against a train weighing tens of millions of pounds!) crushes him like a bug anyways.

    (Paging Father Darwin, pickup on Track Six!)