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Fuel Cell Laptop announced by Toshiba

Steve writes "Following on from the Fuel Cells approved for airline cabins story a week or so back, it would seem there will soon be a need for that approval: Toshiba has announced a fuelcell powered laptop for 2004,and possibly a PDA."

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  1. Toshiba Laptop, why CowboyNeal? by w1r3sp33d · · Score: 5, Funny

    but Toshiba doesn't make an option on the poll today?

  2. Just like printer cartridges by Charlton+Heston · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a couple years we'll all be complaining about expensive fuel cell cartridges that can't be refilled without hacking around a security chip. We'll also be complaining about the spammers marketing cheapo printer ink refills AND methanol refills. But we'll sell our souls to the devil to get 10 hours of battery life, won't we?

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    1. Re:Just like printer cartridges by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm concerned that you're right. Low Methonal solution souldn't be a problem, as you can pick it up for a few dimes a bottle, however, it seems likely they'll hold you to the warrantee with some certified/proprietary mixture (then get someone to add reverse-engineering fuel mixtures to the DMCA) which you can only buy with their quality name on it, or from licensed moonshiners.

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  3. Better Reading Here by mdechene · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since that article appears short, here are some more interesting links on mini fuel cells powering gadgets:

    Discussion from January of the concept
    Apple Laptops
    Air clearance for them

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  4. Ethanol? by bytesmythe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this one of those ethanol-based fuel cells? Seems like this would be a bad thing for recovering alcoholics. Imagine the stares you'd get at an AA meeting trying to power-up your machine.

    Business travelers could have it bad, too. Imagine this scene:

    *Man gets pulled over for swerving on the highway*

    Officer: Sir, have you been drinking?

    Man: No officer, not at all.

    Officer: Why is there an open bottle of vodka in your hand?

    Man: Oh, I had my laptop playing a DVD and the battery nearly died. I forgot my car adapter, so I was just trying to refill the battery.

    Officer: With vodka?

    Man: Yes, officer.

    Officer: Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to step out of the car so I can beat you senseless with my nightstick.

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  5. Finally by jeffasselin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's time the batteries finally caught up to the way we want to use our laptops.

    With the popularity of wireless networks, it has become a pain to have to plug in the laptop to the electric outlet while you spent that money to set up a wireless entwork so that you could stay on the net without any wires.

    Although network technology is much newer, it seems it has managed to progress faster than battery technology sofar.

    Apple is one company who has done all they could to extend battery life (the G3 processor uses so little juice it helps a lot), but every company is still at the mercy of the limits of the battery companies.

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  6. Re:Nothing gets on planes. by Neil+Watson · · Score: 5, Informative
    That's not what I've been reading:

    Fuels cells to be allowed on planes

  7. Almost there by Faggot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Until these things have a whiskey port, they will do me no good.

    C'mon, man, truly practical computing!

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    1. Re:Almost there by krog · · Score: 5, Funny

      careful though. overcharging can cause a hasty kernel dump onto /dev/toilet or /dev/floor (depending on where the PC is pointing at the moment), followed by a several-hour shutdown.

  8. How about... by ocie · · Score: 5, Funny

    An ethanol-powered PDA? It could double as a hip flask.

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  9. In other news by NiftyNews · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news...

    SpleenTech has announced plans for an addon to the digestion track exit that produces a new winged hybrid monkey. It is slated for release in Fall 2007.

    Another [shrug] future possible product announcement, brought to you by the fine folks at SlashDot!

  10. Re:Nothing gets on planes. by Charlton+Heston · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's not true. I was searched by a helpful, if not portly, security lady. She politely informed me that I was allowed to have only one lighter, not the two she found in my laptop bag. Helpfully, she allowed me to choose which of my two lighters I'd like to give to her. I chose the older one, as I am not the sentimental type and it was nearly out of butane. I was then allowed to board the aircraft and proceed safely to my destination.

    So, you can take a butane lighter on board a plane, but only one at a time. On the other hand, you can easily order several alcoholic drinks like vodka which would combust very nicely from the comfort of your spacious seat.

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  11. Re:Fuel Cell... by Malcolm+MacArthur · · Score: 5, Funny
    Any idea what these are actually fueled with? Alcohol or something proprietary?

    Methanol, IIRC. Might also run on ethanol, so if your laptop starts running low, just pour some vodka into it :)

  12. Probably missing the point by DougJohnson · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The idea isn't to "upgrade" your old equipment to use feul cells. The entire tech industry desperately needs something to sell some new products. How many walkman's do you need? (or should that be walkmen?)

    The point is to not have to have batteries at all so you just pump it up with some butane/methane whatever every now and again. This is a HUGE upgrade, not having to replace/recharge PDA batteries every couple hours of use could improve screens and processor power. And to top it all off, means that the manufacturers will make more money selling NEW things.

    You can bet that this is only the first of a coming shift in consumer electronics.

  13. This reminds me... by velcrokitty · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of an old Transactor Magazine cartoon with a 1541 drive and this huge engine/blower contraption up on top. There's this hick with a baseball cap claiming that it would back up disks in XX seconds...

    But yeah, everytime I see news about fuel cell powered laptops, I imagine cranking over a two-stroke engine, pull cord, blue smoke, and noise!

    Perhaps it's just the cold medication...

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  14. Re:Fuel cells? by GooberToo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He violated federal law that was in place prior to 9/11. Deserved what he got.

    Translation: He's a moron.

  15. and... slashdoted... by autopr0n · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's nice.

    Anyway, this is pretty cool. Although we'll have to see how the fueling method works. Some people mentioned a 'cigarett lighter' type thing you could buy, but we'll have to see how much of a 'revineu source' these companies consider it... It would kind of suck if they cost as much as the ink cartrages for most printers :P

    Even if the price is down to $2-$3 a cart, I'd still rather go with the practicaly free eletrical power from an outlet then disposable carts.

    And finaly, eletrical power is so cheap that most people don't mind if you just plug your stuff in. When I bring my laptop just about anywhere, I can feel confident I'll be able to find an outlet to plug it into. I could even get an adapter for my car (actualy, an 9vdc->120vac to plug my 120vac ->12vdc power brick, but hey it works :P)

    With these things, you're SOL. Personaly, I think it would be cool to combine the two into a hybrid solution, a 30min/1hr battery that you can charge while using via a plug or via the fuel cell system. That would really give you the best of both worlds.

    Of course, when we can get fuel cell's for $0.20 and fill them up anywhere (say, people put natural gas taps in their kitchen or something :P) I'd be willing to go all fuelcell, save a small battery that would let me change carts without rebooting :P

    (oh, btw. I'm tying this in on a server machine, that dosn't happen to have any spell checking software installed. Now you can all see my horrible spelling in it's full glory!!!)

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  16. Re:Fuel Cell... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Methanol, IIRC. Might also run on ethanol, so if your laptop starts running low, just pour some vodka into it :)

    Somehow I think these would be difficult to sell in Russia... Think of the conflict... "work on laptop" vs. "unwind with world's best vodka"

    Be like trying to sell the french cars that run on champagne.

    "My car is electric, but my laptop runs on gas."

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  17. Consumable costs will be the killer by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One manufacturer is proposing to supply a 120 ml cartridge that last 10 hours on a laptop. The price is going to be an estimated $3 - $5 per.

    Although wholesale costs for methanol are $0.33 per gallon. I'd be hesitant to pay five bucks to "recharge" my laptop once, OTOH I'd be willing to pay $2.50 for a gallon of methanol that's probably good for forty charges even though it might involve a bit of a hassle to transfer the liquid into "refill" containers.

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  18. Green camo inside an airport by TyZone · · Score: 5, Funny
    Does green camo inside an airport make any sense to anyone???

    No, it doesn't make sense. It's just what they had available.

    In a few months, the troops in the airports will be issued the new Office Camoflage(tm) uniforms -- imprinted with line and color patterns designed to blend in with their surroundings, airport security personnel will soon be indistinguishable from filing cabinets, desks and office water coolers.

    These uniforms will be supplied by the same company that brought us the Urban Camoflage(tm) designs that allow tanks and APCs to be concealed in plain sight on city streets -- protective side-panel paint schemes such as Parked Van, Wrecked Pickup and Abandoned Dumpster.

    - - - - - - - - -

    All kidding aside, the guy's friend exercised what I'd call dangerously poor judgment in choosing his remarks while dealing with cranky people in uniforms with guns.

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