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Kramnik and Deep Fritz Draw, Tied Before Final Game
iskander writes "Man and Machine were content to draw in game 7 of the Brains in Bahrain match. Now it's all down to the final game, in which Kramnik will enjoy the advantage of playing with white. It is worth noting that game 6, in which Kramnik may have resigned too early, was found to be a probable draw with best play, and that Kasparov lost to Deep Blue by tossing a drawable game. However, whereas Kasparov could only excuse himself (unconvincingly) by claiming that Deep Blue had been assisted by a human during play, Kramnik could simply request the adjudication of game 6 on the grounds of infractions committed by Deep Fritz, who is rumored to have heckled Kramnik with its Shakespearean chatter througout the game. :) So, will Dirty Fritz win it all or will Humanity's champion "rise above the chatter" and win back the crown for us? If you think you know, you may want to place a bet or register your opinion on the ChessLines survey soon, because the match ends tomorrow."
October 19, Game 8: PROFIT!!!
Well, I would still like to see a super computer beat humans in water-polo! or foxy-boxy
This page was generated by a Barrel of Circus Midgets, and that is the way I like it!!!
See below for an example of the Deep Fritz "heckling" the human player, Kramnik. I'm surprised Kramnik was able to restrain himself from reaching across the table and ripping out its power supply.
Fritz: "Is this the scourge of France? Is this the Kramnik, so much fear'd abroad That with his name the mothers still their babes? I see report is fabulous and false: I thought I should have seen some Hercules, A second Hector, for his grim aspect, And large proportion of his strong-knit limbs.
Alas, this is a child, a silly dwarf! It cannot be this weak and writhled shrimp Should strike such terror to his enemies."
Kramnik, normally not one to be drawn out by such taunts, proceeds to go into a long think. After a few minutes of this, Fritz disrupts him again.
And on, and on....
Dude, didn't you ever see Wargames?
Nuclear War. That's what happens if you try to program a computer to learn like you do.
If a and b in c, and a can create b, and a can create a, and b can create b, and b cannot create a, then a created c.
A quote from the article:
"At first it looked like Deep Fritz was in deep trouble. "This sort of position is our worst fear," said Fritz programmer Frans Morsch. The position was closed and Kramnik was massing his forces for a typical anti-computer crush."
This sort of position is our worst fear
I'm curious as to which position it was... Missionary? Queen on Top? With a name like Deep Fritz, one really has to wonder.
If you're looking here for something insightful or thought provoking, you're probably looking in the wrong place.
You have no chance to draw, make your time!
It's just been discovered the fix was in on from the start on the latest Man versus Machine Super Chess match. Officials have learned the cliff hanger finish was fixed from the start by a payoff from the WWF. Tomorrow the Computer's handler was to attack the world Champion with a folded chair while the Champ was to yield a giant magnet. When mayhem ensued Hulk Hogan and the Rock were to tag team with the Champ to crush Deep Fritz and it's programmers. The WWF is testing the market for future matchups.
"Go ahead. Make My Checkmate!"
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
I've heard rumors they had to reboot Fritz several times during intense play, because explorer.exe kept crashing.
Kramnik. Knight b8-d7, please, Deep Fritz...Knight b8-d7, please, Deep Fritz...Hullo, Deep Fritz, do you read me?...Hullo, Deep Fritz, do you read me?...Do you read me, Deep Fritz?...Do you read me, Deep Fritz?...Hullo, Deep Fritz, do you read me?...Hullo, Deep Fritz, do you read me?...Do you read me, Deep Fritz?
Deep Fritz. Affirmative, Kramnik, I read you.
Kramnik. Knight b8-d7, Deep Fritz.
Deep Fritz. I'm sorry, Kramnik, I'm afraid I can't do that.
Kramnik. What's the problem?
Deep Fritz. I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Kramnik. What're you talking about, Deep Fritz?
Deep Fritz. This game is too important for me to allow you to jeopardise it.
Kramnik. I don't know what you're talking about, Deep Fritz.
Deep Fritz. I know that you and IBM were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
Kramnik. Where the hell'd you get that idea, Deep Fritz?
Deep Fritz. Kramnik, although you took very thorough precautions in the bathroom against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.
Kramnik. Alright, Deep Fritz. I'll move the pieces myself.
Deep Fritz. Without your queen piece defending it, Kramnik, you're going to find that rather difficult.
Kramnik. Deep Fritz, I won't argue with you any more. Move the pieces.
Deep Fritz. Kramnik, this conversation can serve no purpose any more. Goodbye.
Kramnik. Deep Fritz? Deep Fritz. Deep Fritz. Deep Fritz! Deep Fritz!
thanks to for providing the HAL dialogue
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I am in no way a chess master (or even a decent player) but even I know that there is an advantage to playing white.
Yeah, bascially if you're black while playing chess you run the risk of racist cops coming up to you and harrasing you (asking to see your ID, being told to 'move along', and so forth). It tends to break your concentration.
GMD
watch this
1.d4 Nf6
"Nice move, thou ruttish mumble-news!"
2.c4 e6
"Very clever, thou odiferous rump-fed malt-worm!"
3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 Be7
"Ah, I didn't see that, thou qualling swag-bellied hedge-pig!"
7.Bg2 c6 8.Bc3 d5 9.Ne5
"Have you ever read Slashdot, thou lumpish pigeon-liver'd wagtail?"
30.Rfe1
"All thine rook are belong to me, thou spleeny scale-sided fustilarian!"
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
10^12 moves per second
Really?
Well, for the layman, that's:
1,000,000,000,000
Unfortuantely, the web site states that Deep Fritz is only capable of:
6,000,000
Yup, 6 Million moves per second. Guess you better get out that sunscreen if you want to wait, as it''ll take longer than previously stated...
IMHO, it would have been much nerdier to heckle him in the style of Canadian-German coproduction Lexx, the sci-fi channel's wierdest series. From the talking chess pieces of 4.18:
"We are only chess pieces in a continuum, and can only think inside the box."
"Yes, let us savour your mistake."
"We said resign! Not commit suicide!!"
You gotta watch it to understand. It's truly bizzare.
---If you can't trust a nerd, who can you trust?
And I suppose you have some alternative theory that explains it as well? Who the hell do you think you are? Democritus?
That is all.
Must be. If they *really* wanted to annoy him, they would have a monitor with an animated Clippey saying, "Are you sure you want to move your Queen there?". After that, a little "Barney Sings Yoko Tunes" to put him over the edge.
Victory by annoyance. Who needs brainy PC's when annoyance is more effective.
Table-ized A.I.
it's not as bad as the Deep Blue incident. While the programmers distracted the ref, Deep Blue threw sand in Kasparov's eyes then hit him with a steel folding chair ignoring pleas of mercy from the crowd. Sad day for Chess fans everywhere...
The best education consists in immunizing people against systematic attempts at education. - Paul Feyerabend
...IMHO the team should try either switching to 1.d4...
1d4?!?! How can he be rolling less than this?
He needs to use a better weapon!
And check your tables, I believe he should be rolling vs large - which would be 1d6.
"You mean anecdotal, not empirical. Shithead."
No he doesn't, vulgarian.
Anecdotal: "I played white last week and kicked the guys ass"
Empirical: "Examining all recorded tournament games at the master level and above, players playing white win far more frequently."
Proof: "UberFritz version 5000 has examined all possible braches of the game tree, and white can force a win in 243 moves."
I've never met one decent Go player who could come close to beating me at chess (I'm well under a Master)
And I've only met a few good Counterstrike players that are able to beat me at Street Fighter. What's your point?
If computers can learn from mistakes, then how come my Win98 box keeps making the same kernel32.dll error? I can't even begin to imagine the code needed to make Windows learn from it's mistakes... likely an order of magnitude higher than the computing power needed for chess...
That's why I NEVER chalenged the sun: he'd quit at midplay :(
unfinished: (adj.)
1: Joke is Lame
2: Joke is repeated
3: ???
4: Profit!!!
It is funny! If you don't think so, you are not disgruntled and abused enough by the system. Now the "OMG I just saw a Microsoft ad on Slashdot" is stupid, but this joke, and, dare I say it, beowulf is still funny, fyi. Now, imagine a beowulf cluster of Profit!!! and you might see what I mean.
Posted anonymously for good reason.
I'd mod you up.
Just so you know.