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Could CDRW Disks Replace Videotapes?

NewtonsLaw asks: "I'm in the process of building a TiVo-like PC that uses off-the-shelf technology to implement video timeshift, MPEG recording, MP3 recording, etc along with Net-radio functionality. Over the past two months I've effectively replaced VHS video tapes with CDRW disks. Once a program has been captured on the PC in (S)VCD MPEG format, I can either watch it by playing back the recorded file or dump it onto a CDRW and watch it on my DVD player, before blanking the disk and returning it to the 'empty' pile. What I've noticed is that most of the CDRWs I've tried only last about 30-40 rewrites before they start showing significant data dropouts (almost always at the start of a recording). Since disks in (S)VCD format don't carry the same level of error-checking/correction as disks written in regular data format, such dropouts are more noticeable than they would otherwise be (of course the up-side is that you get to store 805MB on a 700MB CDR/RW without overburn). What I want to know is -- how many rewrites do most people expect from their CDRW media? I seem to recall seeing a figure of a thousand rewrite cycles being touted by some manufacturers. Is this realistic? Thirty rewrites makes a $2.50 RW disk an economic medium for this purpose but it seems a hell of a long way short of 1,000."

"I've tried CDRW disks from several manufacturers and they're being used in a new Sony CDRW drive which seems to function just fine. I've also encountered a slightly shorter lifetime for CDRW media when used for (S)VCD disks and written by a slightly older HP CDR/RW drive.

And before anyone asks 'Why don't you just play directly from the HD?', I should point out that I have to share the TV gear in this house with the rest of the family so it's just easier to burn their stuff to disk and let them use the DVD player than to fight over access to the TiVo-clone."

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  1. Answered own question by flynt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Q: Could CDRW Disks Replace Videotapes?

    A:Over the past two months I've effectively replaced VHS video tapes with CDRW disks.

    Sounds like "Yes!" to me!

  2. No, but they can replace paper tapes: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

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  3. Re:Hard Drives by PeterChenoweth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because it's hard to play a hard drive in a DVD player.

  4. I was thinking about by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 5, Funny

    storing video on punch cards. This would be great for editing as I could just pull out a stack of cards and insert it into another stack.

    Has anyone else done this?

    1. Re:I was thinking about by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 2, Funny
      storing video on punch cards. This would be great for editing as I could just pull out a stack of cards and insert it into another stack.
      Yeah, but just imagine the mess if you dropped the stack. Unless you sorted it afterwards you would have more quick cuts than an MTV video.

      Jack William Bell

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    2. Re:I was thinking about by Polo · · Score: 3, Funny

      I did this.

      once.

  5. Could CDRW Disks Replace Videotapes? by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Answering your question would be a violation of the DMCA. Sorry, ask Jack and Hillary.

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  6. CDRW by Yablo · · Score: 2, Funny

    you mean people actually /use/ CDRW discs?

  7. You should use the GNU version of TiVo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You should take a look at the GNU version of TiVo called GnuVo. It's pretty nice except it won't let you watch any shows about capitalism.

    1. Re:You should use the GNU version of TiVo... by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Funny

      You should take a look at the GNU version of TiVo called GnuVo. It's pretty nice except it won't let you watch any shows about capitalism.

      You think that's bad, I've got KatzVo. The damn thing only records shows about 9/11, Columbine and Globalism!

      GMD

    2. Re:You should use the GNU version of TiVo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Funny, I'm beta testing VA Software's PVR project called SlashVo. Although I'm having problems using it. Due to all the spelling errors in the guide, the search function is useless. And it keeps recording duplicate programs!

  8. I can write on my Cd-RWs about 10,000 times. by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1, Funny

    I have to use a super-mega-ultra-fine tipped Sharpie.

  9. perfect by tps12 · · Score: 5, Funny

    most of the CDRWs I've tried only last about 30-40 rewrites before they start showing significant data dropouts (almost always at the start of a recording)

    Sounds like you've reproduced the VHS experience accurately.

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  10. Re:Units nitpicking by martyn+s · · Score: 2, Funny

    You have a really backwards way of saying "well, it depends how much video you wanna store"

  11. Re:FP! by martyn+s · · Score: 1, Funny

    I guess I was a little overzealous with my first post, in an attempt to get the 'FP'.

    Why, are posts sorted by zealousness, from greatest to least?

  12. oh at about one line of a frame per card? by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Funny

    lets see, 24fps, 600 lines per frame,
    thats 14400 punch cards per second.

    My guess is that it'd catch fire after about
    a minute... from the friction.

    Also, on a related note, are you some kind of sick tree-killer?????

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  13. Whats TiVo stand for anyway? by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Funny

    'Trash in Video out' or something?

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