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Debian Desktop Subproject Launched

MrOutlander writes "The Debian Project is now officially addressing its usability on the desktop with the launch of the Debian Desktop subproject. Great to see usability being recognized as a very important part of debian. Other than the sometimes daunting install process, Debian is one of the best linux distributions."

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  1. Required Reading... by toupsie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aqua Human Interface Guidelines and Mac OS 8 Human Interface Guidelines. Don't reinvent the wheel, perfect it.

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  2. Start Here: by Bonker · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Gnome Usability Report:

    http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/ut1_report /participant_mix.html

    I read this about a year ago. It does an *excellent* job of pointing out many of the inconsistencies and gotchas in any given linux desktop situation.

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  3. Re:Isnt Linux Customizable? by z-man · · Score: 5, Informative

    When it comes to Debian it is not just a choice of distro, it is a choice of distro built on good principles as well as on good architecture.

    The truth is however that each distro exist to offer you even more customizibilty. You have distros like Slack/Gentoo that many like because they don't include many unnecessary packages and the distro offers you much configurability. Many don't like these distros however because they don't have the time to compile(Gentoo)/configure/install everything the good-old-way or that they just want a distro that is a tad more user-friendly. For those you RedHat/Suse and Mandrake that are distros that are based on a binary package system (Gentoo has ports which downloads the source and compiles it). Each of these have their own "touch" as well.
    Mandrake offers many patches/programs to make life easier, so Mandrake is a very popular choice for people that are new to Linux.
    RedHat doesn't offer as much as Mandrake in the newbie area, and are a bit more strict on what goes into their kernel and distro. So imo RedHat isn't quite as user-friendly as Mandrake.
    SuSe I don't know much about, I know that tthey have a configuration utility that has gotten a lot of positive feedback (YaST isn't it?).

    So the choice of distro is just a part of the customization. Part of running Linux is choosing the distro that is right for you.

  4. Also by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. Re:Wrong focus? by PeterClark · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, I don't know what the hold-up for Mozilla is (someone else can jump in), but in the case of KDE3, the only reason that it isn't in unstable now is because of the GCC3.2 transition. One the transition is complete, it's ready to go in. (Of course, there are debs maintained now by the official packagers, they just can't be called official packages because they're not in unstable. But they work just fine.) As for XFree, the big hold-up was testing and patching it to be compatible with all the other platforms. As I understand it, XFree develops pretty much exclusively for x86, and then lets the Debian folk port/patch is over to Alpha, Sparc, PPC, etc.

    You also forget that Debian is not a company, but a community. In other words, you cannot dictate what will be done; people will do whatever interests them. It works, it's just that at this point with so many transitions and changes going on, the process has slowed down. Want to sped it up? Fork over some $$$ to a developer. Simple as that.
    :Peter

  6. Re:Ximian Setup Tools by FooBarWidget · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ximain Setup Tools have been abandoned. Ximian is no longer sponsoring it. Instead, it continues it's life as GNOME System Tools.

  7. Re:Wrong focus? by Ray+Dassen · · Score: 5, Informative
    Shouldn't Debian focus on trying to stay up to date on core components instead?
    Debian focusses on whatever the Debian developers care about. One thing Debian developers tend not to care about at all is armchair experts. If you happen to disagree with what we care about, feel free to learn How you can help, or to pay for a developer to scratch your particular itch.

    We all know that some critical packages are way out of date:
    -XFree, 4.2 just appeared in unstable

    And excellent prerelease packages have been available from the X Strike Force for months. Not to mention that Debian supports X on 11 architectures rather than just i386.
    -KDE 3 Unofficial packages are available; official packages will follow after the gcc transition; see the FAQ.

    -Mozilla 1.1
    Available in unstable and testing, as are recent CVS snapshots.

    And it's even worse for people using woody without 'proposed-updates' package repository!
    woody is the stable release. Debian takes stability very seriously and the stable release is only updated to fix serious issues (in particular security issues), not to put in new releases of packages. If you want a more up to date system, use testing.