Storefront-in-a-Box

like-it-or-not asks: "I'm the network admin for a Mom & Pop chain of warehouses and stores. The owners finally want to take the leap to the 'online market' and have asked me to build them a storefront (catalog and shopping cart, etc.). I haven't done any Web building in several years so I haven't kept up with the many changes in the field. Rather than construct something 'from scratch', I'm wanting to just buy (and then customize) a 'store in a box' (pre-made HTML+CGI+? templates). I've looked around some and wonder what recommendations this community might offer. I have only one requirement: I want to 'own' the software and hardware, not simply use it as a part of renting some space from a provider). Thanks!"

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Re:Are you sure of what you want?

[eddy the lip]

Self-hosting probably wouldn't be what I'd recommend either (having credit card numbers on my server makes me nervous, but then I'm not qualified to admin an e-commerce server). But, whatever you do, for your sanity, don't go near Yahoo! Stores. I've developed a couple, and I've been admining a quite busy one for nearly a year now and it's utter hell. If you don't care what the site looks like, you can use one of their pre-built catalog template thingies and probably be ok, but if you want to do anything remotely customized, you'll be delving into RTML. RTML is it's own little hell - the lispish syntax is kinda nice, but doing server side programming by pointing and clicking through forms (no, you can't just type the code in) is insanely time consuming, and hard on the mouse wrist.

An extra joy when I first worked on it was that RTML wasn't actually documented anywhere, if by documentation you mean any kind of explanation or example of how to use a particular construct. I understand there's a book available now, but I can't vouch for it as I haven't read it.

Further, the fact that little bits of HTML and javascript and what have you end up scattered across various forms will make hunting for that particular menu graphic that you need to change a real treat. You'll start out with the best of intentions - keeping all your pieces nicely organized and in their proper locations. But the tools are simply not designed for ease of administration and the onset of entropy will be swift.

Finally, while you can do things like download your catalog from the server, you can't actually get at any other part of the site. There's no template you can store locally and just upload for handy updates. And when you finally get tired of spending two or three times as long doing simple tasks and decide to move, you'll find that you need to build the site from scratch again, because it won't run anywhere else. You can't just grab your site and upload it to another server. You're trapped.

I'll stop ranting now - I just can't begin to tell you how much time I've wasted dealing with Yahoo! Stores. My time has meant client's money, and the only one winning is Yahoo!