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The Movie Studios' Next Step in Online Movie Delivery

Con Zymaris writes "Here's another piece on the how the movie studios are trying to co-opt the movie delivery mechanisms of the 'counter-culture' set, but instill major restrictions such as IP-address range verification to ensure country of origin, and maximum 24-hour-play lifetime for each downloaded movie."

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  1. Too bad... by rob-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is how it works. According to this page, it's Windows only. Too bad.

    1. Re:Too bad... by brad-x · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hmm, maybe MPlayer will support the format? Even if it is a new digitally signed media format, players like it are very good at using the Windows based codecs.

      Not time to panic just yet, there are still a few compatibility options.

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    2. Re:Too bad... by nachoman · · Score: 3, Informative

      too easy...

      VPN + NAT.

      Now I can share the one movie with anyone I want, anywhere in the world for the next 24 hours. Doesn't sound that secure to me. IP is never a good way to check security.

    3. Re:Too bad... by RomikQ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, see, if mplayer will be able support it, it will mean that you will be able to stream it into a file (thorough mencoder, or without it), encode it and share on giFT or whatever.

      The problem is that the original company will probably make up some legal thing like "illegal to view with anything else then our software", or make the format itself include some kind of crypting component that will disable any 3rd-party-software compability

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  2. Re:Downloading movies? by kryonD · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not sure where you live, but here in Japan with my 12MBit ADSL connection, I can suck down a 1400MB file in under an hour. That's usually about the same time I would kill driving all the way to a rental place and back, not to mention the money I save in gas and also not having to pick a different movie because the one I wanted was already rented by other people.

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  3. Some Simple Math... by manly_15 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I live in Canada, and my ADSL ISP limits my monthly transfer to 5 gigs a month. After that, I pay 10$ a gig. So...

    5 gigs = ~7 movies @ 700 MB each = 40$ (monthly rate for adsl)
    + 4 US$ * 7 movies * 1.5 exchange rate = 42$
    = 82$ total (plus tax)

    82$ for 7 movies? That I can only watch for 24 hours each? When I can buy NEW DVD'S for ~20$ each! It seems that the movie companies are shooting themselves in the foot multiple times with a plan like this...

  4. Re:What's the issue here? by i0lanthe · · Score: 2, Informative

    When I buy a movie on DVD at Blockbuster for $19.99 - I own it outright. I can set up a theatre and show it for profit.

    Um, you "can", but not legally unless you jump through the proper "public performance license" hoops. Otherwise all you're allowed to do is to show it in your home to friends/family.

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  5. Re:What's the issue here? by wotevah · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, no. You do not have "public performance" rights when you buy the DVD, you need a special license for that.

  6. Re:The tighter they grip, the more fall through by Qwerpafw · · Score: 2, Informative
    I can think of a thousand different scenarios in which a person may appear to have an address located in Hong Kong but is in reality in the United States. care to enumerate any of those?
    While I am not he, I'd be willing to name a few (you are in country A, you shall appear to be in country B):

    ssh into a box in country B, from country A. Then tunnel the file to your machine.

    connect to the internet, then connect to a router in country B, ala anonymous browsing services

    have a looooong network cable from country B to country A :)

    hack into a major internet provider ;)

    alter the program which reports the IP, or otherwise spoof the IP address verification

    et etc...

    Note that there are only two main methods I can think of here:

    Going somehow through a machine which actually has the country B IP address

    Somehow faking your IP so the verification process is foiled.

  7. So I signed up for an account... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Basic membership is free, Pay per View is $3-4, premium membership is $9.95/month.

    Most of the newer relases are avialable only to premium members. Yes, they have an adult selection for you /. weenies. Girls Gone Wild, etc...;) Have fun, kiddies.
    There are a few free (as in beer) movies. Shorts mostly, a LOT of Mr. Bill from SNL, other movies no one's ever heard of.

    Randomly cruising through the 650 movie list, I checked out a free 6 minute short, "Automatic". (It was pretty much the first 'free' one I came to.) Run in a window the stream quality on cable was 'not too bad'.
    Pop it out to full screen, however, and there was significant pixelization.
    (Philips 17" monitor, PIII 850, Intel i815 integrated video, or a Dell Latitude with AGP Matrox vid)

    Oh yeah, don't have any auto pop up things (email, IM, whatnot) running on that PC. Awful annoying have your email client scream at you during a quiet scene in the movie.

    Would I pay $4 for movie from here? Not a chance. Would I pay $10/month for premium access? HA. Netflix at twice the price is waaaay better.

    The home movie experience is so far from the average PC user as to be unworkable via this method. I suppose if you had a hotrod PC dedicated to the living room, with all the fancy graphics, a fat pipe, a $1000 monitor, and a really good vid out signal, then maybe you could reproduce the quality of a $200 TV and a $60 DVD player.

    But probably not.

    Next, we shall investigate capturing a movie from here via a USB Dazzle.

  8. Uhhh, nope. by default+luser · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lets see.

    By keeping the average bitrate to a range DSL can stram over, it's not so bad. You've got a movie at your fingertips.

    But on the other hand, I know what 650MB movies look like, and no matter what format you use they still look like crap. Worse than VHS, let alone DVD.

    Sounds like they'd be better suited to cap the movies at around a gig and have the users have like a 2 minute streaming buffer or so. At around a gig, you can get much better than VHS quality.

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  10. Re:changes are afoot by mcc · · Score: 3, Informative

    I will agree bandwidth advances are going to keep continuing for a long, long time, and i will agree that it's inevitable that yeah yeah someday we'll be able to watch DVD streaming video on a TV downloaded off of your average consumer-level broadband service.

    However, i for one don't see any indication that the "someday" when this big leap occurs is going to be anytime even remotely soon.

    I mean, the last i checked, all the big bandwidth-selling companies-- especially the DSL providers-- are having lots of financial difficulties. Also last i checked there's an absolutely huge glut of dark fiber just sitting there because doing the last mile to most places just isn't financially viable.

    I wouldn't say the bandwidth market is dying, but it really honestly looks like it isn't going anywhere at the moment, and a lot of changes are going to have to happen before we start seeing big leaps of any sort.

    Am i wrong?

    P.S. If by "afoot" you meant "sometime in like five to fifteen years", then yeah you're probably right and i apologize for wasting your time :)

  11. Takes Longer than 24h to download the Movie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    If the movie were encoded with a high compression/high quality codec like DIVX at DVD quality, it would end up being somewhere around 400-700 megs. Any less would probably be unacceptable to true movie fans. Streaming isn't much of an option, because even with DSL or Cable, the image quality is still very poor and net congestion causes a lot of degradation.

    The problem I see is that files that large at least 6-8 hours assuming a broadband connection (Linux Discs are about that big), and assuming there's no net congestion. Longer, if there is. Even assuming someone is willing to wait that long for a download, you'd have to plan well ahead if you want time to enjoy it