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Sharing a SCSI Drive Between Two Boxes Using Linux?

yppasswd asks: "I'm looking for a (cheap) solution for filesystem sharing between two linux servers and, since the target is just redundancy, I've come to the following idea: two SCSI controllers, one per machine, with different IDs (say 7 and 6) sharing the same disk. Only one of them would mount the disk, the other is just ready in case of failure. I've googled this around, and I've found many different opinions (Yes, no, perhaps, don't do it or it'll explode,...) but nobody saying 'Ok, I've tried this and here is what happened...'. Suggestions are welcome, but keep in mind that many other solutions (Fiber Channel, SSA, NFS mounts, various network filesystems) were already rejected because they were either too expensive, unreliable or not supported under Linux."

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  1. I've done it although with different systems by FattMattP · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've done this in the past (early 90s) although with different systems. I play keyboards and used to own a Kurzweil K2000 which has a 25 pin SCSI port on the back. I had an external case that contained a 44MB Syquest drive and a 120MB (or something equally small) SCSI HD drive which was connected to my K2000. Rather than putting a terminator on the end of the connection, I hooked it to the SCSI port on my Amiga 3000. Since the K2000 used MSDOS format and the HD was formatted as such, I used the CrossDOS program to read and write to the drives from the Amiga. Both the K2000 and the Amiga could access the drive at the same time. I ran the setup like this for my music for over a year with no problems.

    I guess I'm saying that I don't see why it wouldn't work on today's GNU/Linux systems.

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  2. Why you'd do this by Aniquel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, it's rare - but very valuable. Where I used to work we had about 4TB of hard disk space. Every disk (there were many - all SCSI, around 10GB each) was double-tailed. This allowed each disk to be connected to two controllers, and then each controller was connected to two mainframes. It's a redundancy thing - you're protecting against disk failure, host failure, and controller failure. For all those screaming NFS - all that does is move the problem. What happens when the hard disk controller in the NFS server dies? This way (ideally) if say somebody spills coffee on a hard disk controller (talk about a PITA), the disks are automatically switched over to the other controller. No down time.

  3. Possible, Easy, Reliable, and -FREE-! by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You're talking about making a shared storage HA-cluster. The company I work for makes software to do exactly that, and for typical applications, you can get it for *FREE*. Go to oss.missioncriticallinux.com and look at kimberlite. It makes sure that only one system is using the disk at a time, and automatically switches to the othe machine when one breaks. It's also well documented, and the engineers that work on are good about responding to questions over e-mail.

    If you use debian, installation is as easy as apt-get install kimberlite. If you want to use it as an NFS server, you'll need to buy the commercial version for full support, but it's not very expensive.

    Ignore the people in this thread who are talking out of their asses and saying multi-host scsi doesn't work well. They just didn't know how to set it up right or have never actually tried it. It's very common, and people have been using it for decades.

  4. Be careful who you listen to by Gerry+Gleason · · Score: 5, Informative
    There are a lot of very wrong answers in the comments here, and some good ones. I haven't messed with this in detail since the SCSI-I days, but the spec was designed to support this from the very beginning. On the other hand, this configuration is pretty rare, so not all drives and host adapters are going to handle it properly (test the devices you want to use).

    As someone else said, you want to look at "multi-initiator" support. Since there's not much point to using SCSI if you can't interleave requests, your going to be talking about "split transactions" where the initiator arbitrates for the bus, selects a target and sends a command and possibly data (write case) over the bus and then disconnects. Later, the target arbitrates for the bus, selects the initiator (hopefully the same one that sent the request), and sends data (read case) and status back. IIRC, SCSI-I didn't support tagged queing and out of order returns, but later versions do. This has got to be negotiated just like synchronous transfer rate. I can think of lots of ways that this could be screwed up (typically in firmware) and never effect the single initiator case, so as I said, you have to test.

    If the drive fully and correctly supports the spec, it should respond correctly to requests from any initiator and keep everything straight when it agrees to handle tagged queing. That means you should be able to use different parts of the disk for a filesystem on each disk, as long as you keep everything straight. You can even have one device write and another read, or use some blocks on the disk to coordinate dynamic sharing, but all of that gets complicated quickly, so unless this is what you really want, it won't be worth it.

    A couple of comments implied that some music systems do this sort of thing, maybe between the sound recording system and a computer mixer/processor system. Doing this can't break the drive, but it certainly could hose up the format enough to make it unusable without a reformat (if you break the usage rules, that is).

    As to cables and such, SCSI is a bus, although you are allowed short taps from the bus to the drives/controlers (maximum is in the spec). If you have some sort of 'Y' cable that connects a host in two directions, you can't have more than one device inside the host (i.e. no drives inside the case connected to the internal port of the controller), and the internal cable has to be short enough (and of course no termination inside either). External drives and multi-drive modules will almost always have two connections for both ends of the bus, so just chain all the drives together and put the hosts on each end. Now you just have to be sure the total cable lenght is within spec (6 meters, I think).

    The final topic is why do it in the first place. Keep in mind that drives and power supplies are your most likely failure points in any case, so you want to mirror, or raid. Mirroring with one drive in each box (or many pairs split between the boxes) would reduce the single points of failure pretty well. You could even have both boxes active and mirroring to different pairs sharing the load until there is a failure, then switch over. Manual switch over is probably safest and cheapest, just shutdown the broken system (If not already hard crashed), and mount the other filesystems on the still working box. If you have confidence in your monitoring system, you could script this on certain events.

    It looked like some comments had good links to some multi-initiator stuff, or just google that as suggested (it helps when you know what to ask for), YMMV. Oh, one more thing to worry about: terminator power. Usually the controller supplies it to the bus, but it is very bad for more than one device or initiator to supply it. Of course, you also have to worry about still having it at both ends even if one of the machines is off or dead.