Trailer of Pixar Movie 'Finding Nemo'

tjansen writes "The trailer of the next Pixar movie, Finding Nemo, is out. Only Quicktime, as usual, so you need CrossOver on Linux machines." Actually's Disney's site has Real and Windows Media formats, so you can pick your poison.

Comments

..As opposed to..?

[Lord Bitman]

The trailer that's /been out/ for a month? There's no reason to mention the release of a new movie trailer. I mean, a star wars or matrix trailer is one thing, but a movie about talking fish just because it's animated using a computer, much like many movies today are? Hey, there's a trailer out for "3, 2, 1 Penguins!" too.

Re:..As opposed to..?

[tolldog]

Having worked on it, here is some more information:

3-2-1 Penguins!

Same company as " Jonah a Veggietales movie", which is still in the theaters.

I don't know how Penguins is currenly being produced but the first three episodes were created on SGI Octanes and rendered on Linux boxes. Jonah was created on both Linux and SGI systems as well as being rendered on Linux boxes (500+ dual proc systems).

Not as big or as fancy as finding Nemo, but it also cost 1/10th to produce as Monsters Inc. $12MM vs $150MM. Although not number 1 in the box office, it has been in the top ten every week but one since released.

-Tim

Environment.

[Trusty Penfold]

Anyone know how much this advances computer animation?

The under-water environment looks extremely well done; the colours, refraction, fading etc. look very realistic.

Have these been done before, or has Pixar invented lots of new stuff again?

Re:Environment.

[Trusty Penfold]

This paper describes ways of doing the lighting underwater.

Re:Environment.

[robson]

The under-water environment looks extremely well done; the colours, refraction, fading etc. look very realistic.

This is what continually perplexes me about Pixar. Technically, they seem very geared around the infinitely explanding path toward photorealism. And that's cool.

Yet, one could easily argue, given the evidence (Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Bug's Life, Monsters Inc, and now Finding Nemo) that Pixar has a clear and deliberately unrealistic style. So you have this bizarre juxtaposition of the big-eyed, cartoony character in Monsters Inc who sported a state-of-the-art hyper-realistic hair (or fur) simulation.

What I'm saying is, why bother with advances toward photorealism such as hair simulation and advanced underwater effects if every one of your characters is designed to look like a stuffed animal or 3d rendering of a Disney character?

It's almost as if there's a schizophrenia within Pixar.

Re:Environment.

[2nd Post!]

There's also another explanation.

In the real world it's expensive to do fantastic things and easy to do mundane things.

In the CG world, it's incredibly expensive to do mundane things, and only slightly less expensive to do fantastic things; because it will cost as much to stage a battle in space as it will in water as in plasma, because the render time is dictated by scene complexity and not by any hard limits of physics, like survivability.

So all of these advances in *mundane* things like light, shadow, hair, and water, make the fantastic things even more fantastic, like the monsters or the ships or the fish or the whatever.

If you want photorealistic realism, you may as well use real people doing real things with real objects, like other films.

If you want photorealistic unrealism, then that's where CG has an advantage over conventional film, so there's no reason not to go full tilt with the unrealism, sorta like Anime does, or sorta like stop motion film.

Streaming media...

[Mitreya]

Which does bring up a question - why is there no mpg file available for download as a rule?

The order of preference seems to be as follows:

1. Real player format that can not be downloaded at all

2. Quicktime file which you can usually download (but I don't like the client :)...)

3. Some other weird streaming format (windows media? can it be downloaded)

4. Nice mpg file that I can actually take to my desktop -- even with my Cable connection, my processor just does not handle video streaming very well.

Can someone tell me why this is happening? Seems counter productive - streaming is bad for network if it can be avoided. And this is not premium/paid content we are talking about! This is trailers... as in the stuff that studios should be happy to let us watch for free!

Re:Pixar and plug-ins...

[Charcharodon]

It sort of the other way around. Somebody comes up with a movie script (sometimes even a plot too) Then they ask hey can we do this?? The CG/SFX guys go "idonno, let me get back to you." Eventually they figure it out, and low and behold we have something new. The Abyss, the Matrix, most of the Pixar movies, and nearly all the Star Wars movies are good expamples of this. Eventually they what they invent becomes standard tools for the industry

Re:Upcoming Pixar Movies.

[Schnapple]

Where and when did you hear this? A short while back I read on AICN that the next film was The Incredibles (like you said) but that the film after that was tentatively called Cars and would mark the return of John Lasseter (sp?) to the director's "chair".

The reason there's not a Toy Story 3 yet is because Pixar is contractually obligated to deliver three films to Disney by 2005 and sequels don't count towards that number. Steve Jobs pleaded with Disney to make a Toy Story exception but they wouldn't have it. If TS3 is indeed already in planning stages then either they have great confidence their new Disney deal will allow for it, or they're sure whomever they deal with next will.

The part that worries me is that rumor has it Pixar thinks Finding Nemo will be their weakest film and if there's fallout from that they may not be in the bargaining position they would be in right now if it doesn't do so well.

Five, six, or seven?

[yerricde]

there will be 6 produced under the [Disney/Pixar] deal (Toy Story, A Bugs Life, Toy Story II, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, and Cars)

What about Monsters, Inc.? Does that make seven, or is Cars now an independent film?

Upcoming Pixar Movies, from the source

[alispguru]

I don't know where you heard that stuff, but a Pixar press release says the next three films are:

Finding Nemo

The Incredibles

Cars

Nothing about "Ray Gunn", nothing about "Toy Story 3". What's your source?

Re:Upcoming Pixar Movies.

[malducin]

Actually it's Disney who wants a TS3. They can argue that it's not art of the deal and sort of get an "extra" Pixar film besides the others they have to do. Yes Jobs wanted the exception, and if TS3 went ahead Jobs would again plead that TS3 count towards their commitment.

The interesting part will be future negotiations because it has come to a point where it's debatable who need whom more. Pixar needs a studio for distribution, but I don't think finding a new one would be a problem (though going at it alone would be much more difficult). On the other hands Disney's traditionally animated films are kinda underperformers. Pixar is coming to a point of being on a better bargaining position.

By the way The Incredibles is directed by Brad Bird, who made the very underrated The Iron Giant. Some of those rumors say that about Nemo, becuse rumors have it that everyone wanted to be involved with Incredibles.

Also interestingly enough, Dreamworks is working on their own underwater movie, called Sharkslayer, which is kinda of a mafia like film.

Re:Upcoming Pixar Movies.

[epukinsk]

Upcomingmovies.com has some good info on Pixar's upcoming films:

2003: Finding Nemo
2004: The Incredibles
2005: Cars

Apparently Ray Gunn and The Incredibles were an either/or proposition, and it looks like it's going ot be The Incredibles.

Here's a good overview of Pixars plans.

Re:Ummm w/ Toy Story 2, it makes 7 films, not 6

[90XDoubleSide]

Pixar orignally had a 3 picture deal with Disney, and Toy Story was released under that contract (notice that Toy Story isn't even branded as Pixar at all, and the Pixar Luxo logo trailer doesn't even show until after the credits.) That contract was replaced by a new 5 picture contract, so the 5 films are Bugs, MI, Nemo, Incredibles, and Cars (TS2 doesn't count, and Disney declined to allow Pixar to create a TS3 that would count as one of the films). In their last earnings teleconference, Pixar said that they are already in early pre-production on the film after Cars, which they are financing entirely themselves and which they will own all the rights to, although of course they could choose to get a new contract with Disney, they would just get to keep a much, much bigger piece of the profits (they currently get 50% minus all distribution fees)