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Hemos
on from the soylnet-green-is-made-from-people dept.
ihnm writes "Science Daily has a story on the harvesting of the first soybeans grown in a space station. Does this mean McDonald's will start selling Space Burgers?"
soya - cows - burger - major waste
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DrSkwid
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Feeding soy beans to cows to make meat is one of the grossest misuse of resources in farming.
5,000 gallons of water per pound of beef.
When water is becoming a scarce commodity it makes no sense.
-- There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Re:soya - cows - burger - major waste
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gerf
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I was born and raised on a farm, so i know a bit about this.
If water is scarce, it is more expensive. So, cattle, and other water intensive things are usually done where there's a lotta water. like the midwest. You don't see nearly as many cattle around in the desert anymore, do ya
The real problem with water and food useage isn't that there isn't enough. God no. It's getting the food to the people who need it. there's two reasons this is hard
1.) We'd have to ship all this food/water hundreds and thousands of miles through bad areas, with little roads or rails. think Somalia here.
The people who need it can't afford it, and we can't just give away everything we have all the time. we're not a socialist nation, us americans (we have the biggest surplus of food though).
So, if you want to become a vegetarian, this is truly the right reason. but please, be sensical about it, and don't talk about what you don't know
Re:Lose weight!
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qengho
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Since a near-vegan diet uses resources efficiently, that's what long-duration space travellers and colonists will be eating. Successfully growing soybeans in space is a big deal.
Funding
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Anonymous Coward
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Does this mean McDonald's will start selling Space Burgers?
Sounds like a good way to fund the program.
Feed the world - burn your surplus grain.
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DrSkwid
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So, if you want to become a vegetarian, this is truly the right reason. but please, be sensical about it, and don't talk about what you don't know
tbh I couldn't agree more but you do miss one vital aspect. AFAIK Meat is more perishable than grain.
I went vegan for these very reasons. Meat production is wasteful, it was only later that I became concerned with the cruelty.
The destruction of food in the EU is to maintain a false market because govt. is in the hands of the landowner, not the citizen.
In ancient Rome food was free, the Emperor was expected to provide for his capital city. Now that we are civilised, the landowners use penury and starvation as a threat instead of a one way trip to the colosseum.
And for once we can, in all honestly, blame the French - for that is the legacy of the Norman Conquest - modern parliament.
-- There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Re:If this a permanent solution, why does it say:
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anthony_dipierro
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Because on a small scale you aren't going to get enough water out of the dirt to do anything more than survive.
Right. But that directly contradicts the original statement, that "Solar-powered desalination plants exist. They're just not commercially implemented because... drum roll... *anyone* can do it."
They're more likely not commercially implemented because... drum roll... the solution is more expensive than other solutions.
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Feeding soy beans to cows to make meat is one of the grossest misuse of resources in farming.
5,000 gallons of water per pound of beef.
When water is becoming a scarce commodity it makes no sense.
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Lose weight, eat space burgers.
Don't laugh, that's actually what happened when Cornell University did a study of a proposed space colony diet.
Since a near-vegan diet uses resources efficiently, that's what long-duration space travellers and colonists will be eating. Successfully growing soybeans in space is a big deal.
Does this mean McDonald's will start selling Space Burgers?
Sounds like a good way to fund the program.
So, if you want to become a vegetarian, this is truly the right reason. but please, be sensical about it, and don't talk about what you don't know
tbh I couldn't agree more but you do miss one vital aspect. AFAIK Meat is more perishable than grain.
I went vegan for these very reasons. Meat production is wasteful, it was only later that I became concerned with the cruelty.
The destruction of food in the EU is to maintain a false market because govt. is in the hands of the landowner, not the citizen.
In ancient Rome food was free, the Emperor was expected to provide for his capital city. Now that we are civilised, the landowners use penury and starvation as a threat instead of a one way trip to the colosseum.
And for once we can, in all honestly, blame the French - for that is the legacy of the Norman Conquest - modern parliament.
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Because on a small scale you aren't going to get enough water out of the dirt to do anything more than survive.
Right. But that directly contradicts the original statement, that "Solar-powered desalination plants exist. They're just not commercially implemented because ... drum roll ... *anyone* can do it."
They're more likely not commercially implemented because ... drum roll ... the solution is more expensive than other solutions.