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Building A Community Wireless Network From Scratch

adelayde writes "This summer I've been involved in a project to build a community-orientated wireless network in the city of Bristol, England. Recently I published an article ( mirrored here and here) describing what we have achieved so far, including some interesting thoughts on passive repeaters. There is a supporting site (mirrored here) with detailed instructions on how to build antennae, and the main project web site is also available here. A bit of own trumpet blowing perhaps, but I think it'll be of interest to those readers involved in similar projects and be of some help to those thinking of starting their own."

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  1. Failed /. attempt... by MrWa · · Score: 5, Funny
    How are we supposed to crush people's servers when you already have mirrors in the article?!

  2. Similar Projects by kaosrain · · Score: 5, Informative

    Similar projects for Seattle, Washington and Sonoma County, California can be found here and here, respectively.

    -Kaos

  3. Interesting by Slashdotess · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was working on a similiar project this summer as well. We have a grant from the state and community support to follow through, if someone is really interested they could read up on the grant at the link above.

  4. Similar project in Reno,NV by ShavenGoat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A group of people, including myself, are trying to implement something similar in Reno, NV: RAWUG(Reno Area Wireless Group).

    These guys are way ahead of us, but if you are in the Reno area, or want to contribute ideas toward how we can setup a community wireless area here, please join our list and help contribute ideas! So far we have a couple people from Seattle and what not.

    Personally, I think it would be uber cool to have someone setup a national (or International) wireless users consortum to organise all the great ideas people are coming up with. Non-commerial and commercial ideas a like.

  5. Similar Projects (Addendum) by rlangis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A similar project for the Portland, OR Metro Area is located here.

    My personal node (via nodedb) is here.

    Join us.

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  6. If you care about speech, get involved with these by xtal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lots of articles appear on slashdot about ISPs monitoring communications for the government, shutting sites down without authorization or anything resembling due process (important if you are a US citizen!), operating system and software vendors restricting freedoms, abuses of media by government PsyOps (ack!) organizations, media conglomerates manipulating editorials, ad nauseum.

    While all of that may or may not be true, there is now a technology that can greatly reduce the reliance of the technically inclined and general populace alike on these large, controlled networks. This is the first time in history that a viable, high bandwidth technology can be bought into for a hundred bucks and some clever thought. The signifigance of that is not immediately apparent now, but I suspect it will become VERY important in the years to come.

    If you really care about getting shafted by your ISP and care about free speech this is a avenue to pursue in addition to your standard channels of protest. Set up local networks! Once upon a time, we did this with modems, call forwarding lines, and crummy XTs. A bunch of kids trading software provoked national secret service investigations. Not with the internet, but with long distance phone calls. 802.11 is making being a ham radio operator interesting again - I can play with antennas and build networks on the cheap! At 11mbits to boot! When I was in high school, I thought the kenwood handheld and a battery operated packet modem was pretty pimp - and it cost me a lot more than a d-link pcmcia card!

    If you live in a high density area, look at getting together a co-op for bandwidth. Distribute it on WiFi. Get people together and pool some cash. The networks are there, and once they're built, they only have to be connected. There is no reason that in 5 years, there can't be an alternative to commercial ISPs for bandwidth. Just as nobody thought the internet would work (what! no circuits! no central provide!), there is no evidence a widely distributed decentralized wireless network won't, either.

    Security is a non starter. Make the network all-encompassing and encrypt your traffic.

    Combine the technologies with something like Freenet (freenetproject.org), and you have a real motivator for social change (like it or not). Run more static nodes!

    My $0.02. 802.11 isn't hyped enough.

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  7. Wireless Community Resources by K'tohg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would be interested in resources for both the technical how-to's and the political how-to's to accomplish a community LAN.

    I have always wanted to start one in my area. If it's strait forward enough I could start one block at a time and maybe make a big hit.

    Has anyone delt with the compitition? I would assume the Cable and DSL companies would be kinda pissed seeing everyone's money go to a wireless ISP with a T3 not through their wired lines. And since they have the bigger bank it means the little guys (dispite their good intentions) can get hurt real bad in battle.

    Any feedback would be appreciated.

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    1. Re:Wireless Community Resources by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would assume the Cable and DSL companies would be kinda pissed seeing everyone's money go to a wireless ISP with a T3 not through their wired lines. And since they have the bigger bank it means the little guys (dispite their good intentions) can get hurt real bad in battle

      I don't think they'd mind a wireless ISP with a T3, because a T3 still costs quite a bit of money. From the perspective of an ISP, a wireless or wired service looks the same if it has a T3, they don't care what happens beyond the router at the ISP itself. What they would object to is running a "community" ISP off of domestic ADSL lines. No matter what your "good intentions", ADSL is as cheap as it is because of calculations done by the telcos of how many potential paying customers there are per exchange. If suddenly there are far fewer paying customers because everyone's piggybacking on a few who do pay (even if those people do give their service away voluntarily) then the price of ADSL will have to go up by a proportional amount. Imagine what happens if instead of 10 paying ADSL customers an telco gets 1 and 9 sharing it - ADSL will have to become 10x more expensive for those that do pay, and then will they be so willing to give it away for free?

      The technology works - 512k down is a lot of bandwidth for sporadic network loads like web browsing and reading email (less for streaming video and file downloads, sure). Wireless access points are cheap, 802.11b PCMCIA cards are cheap, DHCP and no WEP means that administration costs are trivial. But the economics don't, and so-called community ISPs are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg, if they're not careful.

  8. A little off topic by jchawk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really nothing to do about wireless networks, but more about this submitted article.

    If you are submitting your own site to slashdot, this is how you should do it! Have a couple mirrors handy so we can actually take a look at what you posted.

    Kudos to this guy! There really should be some kinda of prize. :-) Well there is the bandwidth bill I suppose. hehe

  9. Re:If you care about speech, get involved with the by mtnharo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I think that creating more local nets like we see here is great, it will take much more than a project like this to get rid of the "Oppressive ISPs."
    The community in the article is still getting net access through a DSL modem, so they are still beholden to the Telco powers-that-be. If enough communities were to start up projects like this, and link together using their own methods, then a new form of Internet could take shape independent of the Telcos.
    Imagine a mesh network on a national or international scale created from local nets and linked through purely public lines. Either that, or enough such networks sharing a few high-bandwidth connections along with freenet and tunnelling to make any monitoring and censorship pointless. The ISP's would have to adapt if enough communities simply shared one connection. The one's that refuse to move away from "one person/household == one account" will hopefully wither away.
    As much as the Internet has become a big part of the way we live, we must take a greater part in shaping the way it develops if we want to retain the freedom we have with it, or to gain back the freedom we had before the Internet was declared a different arena from any other global communication tool (See DMCA, COPA, the recent decree from Panama etc for examples of this problem).

  10. Re:If you care about speech, get involved with the by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If you live in a high density area, look at getting together a co-op for bandwidth. Distribute it on WiFi. Get people together and pool some cash. The networks are there, and once they're built, they only have to be connected.

    As a cheaper alternative, why provide any direct bandwidth to the Internet? Use spare older boxes and set-up local news, email and web servers -- almost stepping back to UUCP days. It's a little hard for The Man to control your connection when you hardly have one, except for news and email feed. The local community web sites might not be too great, but they'd be in the community, which could be a plus.

    Anyone who wanted could toss spare boxes onto your community intranet. Games servers, web sites, local small business -- And all without worrying about the pipe bill.

    And clusters of community intranets could peer with each other. :^)

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  11. WiFi BBS model by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The current model for WiFi community networks seems to be that of a community wireless pipe to the Internet. Now that sort of project is worthy and has it's place. The problem is cash and the pipe.

    Dropping it on an existing home-use DSL will cause .. trouble. If it doesn't violate the AUP, it will soon, and since the usage curve of a community WAN should be easy to detect.. (Sympatico has imposed a monthly transfer cap with extra charges past the cap.)

    Alternately, a group could pool/raise the money for a legit connection, but then you're talking about money and organization. More power to those with the time for it.

    One obsolete model was that of a lone operator setting up their own system and paying the costs out of pocket: The BBS.

    I ran a BBS (Coherent/Linux based) for a decade until the Internet killed BBSs. (In the end, I tried a web-based BBS, still through my two phone lines. Couldn't afford that and a pipe out to the Internet, it died.) The main kicker was always the phone lines. I could have supported a large number of users even on a 486, but I couldn't justify the cost of the phone lines.

    Now WiFi might make that model viable again. (After all, other than the cost of equipment, it's free.) WiFi doesn't have the coverage of the local telephone, but the number of "lines" are rather large.

    I'm not talking about ye olde text BBS here, of course. Times have changed as have user expectations. I just think there might once again be room for a one-person cheep operation. What it would have to offer to make it attactive to users, I leave as an exercise...

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