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Why are Microsoft Customers Scared of Criticising Microsoft?

gsfprez asks: "This article documents the stories of three Microsoft customers (organizations that voluntarily buy Microsoft products) who are clearly unhappy with the product offerings of Microsoft - but are simultaneously petrified of this fact being made public. My question to the crowd is not regarding the subject matter of the article: rather, I want to know what is it that could scare a company away from telling a product vendor that they are unhappy and merely *considering* not buying their next product? Fear of reprisal (in the form of a software audit) is simple extortion...no? More ethereally - do we actually live in a world where MS not only 'demands' you buy their new products, but appears to have people pissing their pants at the thought of doing otherwise?"

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  1. It's simple by Kj0n · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is one big rule: do not draw too much attention .

    Microsoft is a big company that is known to play its business a bit dirty from time to time. When you criticise them too much, they might just try their next trick on you. Since they are bigger and have more money, you can be sure you won't like this.

  2. Why not cuss out your CEO when you're laid off? by blastedtokyo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's all about burning bridges. You don't go out of your way to criticize someone if you expect to do business with them in the future. Most businesses want their Microsoft Rep to get them better tech support, better licensing prices, etc. You don't flame the ass of someone you want something from. Like it or not, Microsoft is not going away. So get what you can out of them.

    E-Week is a magazine for CIOs and IT administrators. If you get your name printed disparaging any of your suppliers, you can be sure that your sales rep and tech support rep aren't going to smiling and saying 'wow, what a great and effective way to deliver feedback to me.'

  3. Why are Microsoft Customers Scared?! by alfaiomega · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't use a single byte made by Microsoft, and still I'm scared of criticising them. Why? They're evil, that's why! I usually don't criticise Satan as well. Hey, they're all great! Now, that's why I really don't criticise! Yeah, that's why!

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  4. I wonder... by HawkingMattress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't live in the US so i'd like to know : How could MS force a firm to do a software audit ? Can they decide themselves to pass the door and have a look at the licenses, or do you mean they can "influence" which enterprises should be audited ?
    Anyway, what would they have to fear if they were using OSS ? The law is on their side...
    Yeah right, Even an "OSS enterprise" (see, american humor :-) is probably using alot of not so free software.

    1. Re:I wonder... by alfaiomega · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't live in the US so i'd like to know : How could MS force a firm to do a software audit ? (...) Anyway, what would they have to fear if they were using OSS ? The law is on their side...

      The law maybe is, but how does the Microsoft know if you use free software or pirated MS software? What I'm affraid is this:

      *Knock, knock!*
      -- Who's there?
      -- Microsoft action rangers! Let me see your license!
      -- Get lost, I don't use your shitty software!
      -- You have to let us in and let us check out all of your computers to prove that!

      Anyone has any experience with them? Because I sure don't want to let them near my computers at all.

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    2. Re:I wonder... by HawkingMattress · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well unless they have a paper from a judge or something proving they have the right to enter, I wouldn't let them in.
      Think about it : if they can do that, what would stop me from doing the same thing at redmond ?

      -- hello, i'm a shareware developper , I'm here to check all your computers to see if you're using some of my software. Please let me in, Mr Gates !

    3. Re:I wonder... by dbrutus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Volume licensing agreements pretty much spell out that they have the right to conduct an audit. Generally, having pissed off employees calling the BSA (Business Software Alliance) and saying you have pirated software tends to convince judges that there is probable cause for a warrant if there is a refusal to voluntarily do an audit.

      There are no forced audits without a judge signing a warrant and law enforcement officers along to serve that warrant.

    4. Re:I wonder... by tomhudson · · Score: 2
      So here's a new slashdot business model:
      1. Use only open-source software
      2. Rat yourself out to the BSA or CAAST as a pirate
      3. Refuse them entry
      4. Let them get a warrant
      5. The find nothing
      6. Sue
      7. Profit!
      Sorry it's more than 3 steps.

    5. Re:I wonder... by dbrutus · · Score: 2

      Generally, the reason they're showing up in the first place is that somebody already called and reported you to them. They would go away, present their evidence to a judge in the area that they have a good working relationship with (and believe me, if they're not idiots, they have good relationships with state judges all over the world), and they'll show up later (maybe only a few hours later) with a law enforcement officer and a warrant.

      At that point, I've been informed that the procedure is that the cops will tell everybody to stand up and away from all computers and you can't get any computer work done until the cops (using their private agents, the BSA) finish searching the premises for evidence listed in the warrant.

      Hostile gets you a warranted, confrontational, and worst of all slow audit. Then again, there's always the lawsuit for harassment...

    6. Re:I wonder... by dbrutus · · Score: 2

      They'll boot into a CD operating system and run a binary that crawls through your hard disk tree looking for covered applications.

      Not running Windows doesn't get you out of a jam because not all of the BSA's members develop only Windows software. If you had a pirated version of Rational's development suite for Unix, you can bet that you'd have trouble from the BSA as well.

  5. Big misunderstanding by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article linked is not a long one; it talks about Microsoft's recent announcement that Office 11 won't run or won't be supported (I'm not entirely sure which) on any MS OS older than Windows 2000. Three people were quoted in the article as saying unhappy things about this announcement.

    I think the submitter of this article is reading too much into it. I've done some interviews with the mass media on a few subjects-- most recently on last month's brief but entertaining controversy about Microsoft's fake testimonial ads-- and it's very common for people like myself to agree to speak to reporters on background, or to say things that are not for attribution. "On background" and "not for attribution" have very specific meanings to reporters. If you tell a reporter that what you're about to say is not for attribution, that means the reporter can write about what you say, or even quote you, but mustn't identify you in any way. That's obviously what happened here.

    So... why? Well, the first possible reason that springs to mind is that the people being interviewed didn't have the authority to speak officially for their company, even though they were being asked about company reactions to the Microsoft announcement. Rather than having every statement run through corporate public relations, the reporter simply agreed that the interviews would be "not for attribution." That way the reporter gets his quotes, and the interviewee doesn't have to cover his ass.

    In other words, just because the author of the story used the phrase "requested anonymity," don't jump to the conclusion that this is some Deep Throat situation, some big cloak-and-dagger thing. It's not even unusual.

    There's basically nothing interesting going on here.

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    1. Re:Big misunderstanding by bje2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      from the article, it appears that Office 11 will be "incompatible" with any MS operating system earlier then Windows 2000 SP3...so, from that, i'm taking that it won't run, not that it just won't be supported...

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  6. Slashdot by sql*kitten · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You might as well as, "Why are /. posters afraid of criticizing Linux?". Because if you do you will be "audited" (modded into oblivion) by the Slashbots, of course!

    1. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Are slashdotters afraid of critisizing Linux? That isn't what I have observed.

      Look at any discussion regarding kernal updates, gcc, kde vx gnome, Xandros vs Mandrake vs Debian and you will find many conflicting opinions.

      When somebody mindlessly bashes Linux it gets modded down, unfortunately mindless attacks on MS somehow get modded up.

  7. It's not just MS they're afraid of... by pythorlh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's the PHBs, too. Microsoft FUD has so completely blown over the non-technical that anyone espousing an anti-MS thought is considered clueless. And that goes double if they don't have an MCxx certification. Catch-22? Yep. And Microsoft loves it that way. For 99% of the companies out there, the only right answers are "Yep, we can buy that from Microsoft." or "We're going to have to buy that from someone else...Microsoft doesn't sell anything that does that." And the list for which the second answer is true is getting smaller every year.

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    1. Re:It's not just MS they're afraid of... by Mr.+Firewall · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's the PHBs, too. Microsoft FUD has so completely blown over the non-technical that anyone espousing an anti-MS thought....

      ...is FIRED. I've been excommunicated from two jobs in the last year by pointy-haired High Priests -- er, ah, I mean MCSE's -- because I dared to challenge the FUD -- er, ah, I mean the One True Religion -- of Micro$oft.

      Believe me, the folks in the article have ample reason to fear speaking out. The PHB's only need to "make an example of" a few people like me to make everyone else fall into line.

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  8. Not scared of M$, scared of public by forsetti · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Content of the article aside, many companies are afraid of scaring their customers, by telling them "Hey -- we do YOUR business using a product even WE don't like!"

    Would you be happy knowing that your health insurance, stocks, etc were done on a system that your insurance company, stock broker, etc didn't feel comfortable with?

    Unfortunately, migrating from M$ to a *nix platform is not easy -- it takes time to migrate your services and data. So many companies are stuck in the M$ rut.

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  9. Microsoft users typically attack each other. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 3, Insightful


    It seems reasonable to post links to an article that shows that Microsoft customers could possibly have serious need to criticize the company, even in cases where the software works: Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going.. If Spanish is your native language: Windows XP muestra la dirección que Microsoft está tomando.

    Those who criticize Microsoft face a lack of sympathy from people who are not well informed, which is most people. Typically, Microsoft users attack each other, rather than examine the issues. My research shows that this is a phenomenon that is common. Human societies do not deal well with an abuser that tries many, many small abuses, and gives up any one abuse if the opposition is too strong.

    Some history: Microsoft has made huge positive contribution to the world by creating an operating system that the world could adopt as a standard for small computers. Earlier there were more than 200 versions of Unix, each with small incompatibilities with the others. Versions of earlier Unix operating systems also were too powerful to run on affordable small computers. The Unix system would boot for the first time and expect that it would be attached to a network of typically hundreds or thousands of other computers. The manuals assumed that the reader was a professional Unix administrator.

    The alternative to Microsoft operating systems was the OS known as CP/M. Those who designed CP/M-based personal computers used more than 68 diskette formats, making it impossible to interchange data between different systems by diskette, without using a conversion program. Digital Research, the company that made CP/M, sometimes provided manuals in which the original was printed using a dot-matrix printer with an old ribbon. To say that DR was insufficiently attentive to business is an understatement. It was crazy, and Microsoft delivered us from that craziness.

    At the same time that Microsoft was making a huge positive contribution, it was making a negative one, also. The company has a history of the kind of abuse psychologists call "testing the limits".

  10. Re:Same reason democrats are afraid of republicans by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Informative? INFORMATIVE??? The only thing Less informative than this drivel is the moderation done to it!

    "In America the powerful always abuse their power" and of course the powerful in Europe, Asia, South America, Australia, Africa, and the Rest of North America are paragons of virtue and NEVER abuse their position.

    Democrats afraid of Republicans? HELLO - we just had an election here, and I don't think there's any more powerful way of saying "I disagree" than trying to take their job away.

    Fascists? "when Al Capone ran everything"? For Chrissake!

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  11. Light bulb by red_dragon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Q: How many Microsoft Customers does it take to replace a light bulb?

    A: None. They all were audited by Microsoft and forced to pay out of their noses for upgrades to Microsoft Light Bulb, so it has already been replaced.

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    1. Re:Light bulb by sharkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Q: How many Microsoft Customers does it take to replace a light bulb?

      A: None. They all bought into Licensing 6.0, and can't afford to buy new light bulbs until the next budget year. Maybe.

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    2. Re:Light bulb by tomhudson · · Score: 2
      Q: How many Microsoft Customers does it take to replace a lightbulb?

      A: None, Micro$oft likes keeping its' lu$er$ in the dark

      Besides, the EULA they downloaded with the latest service pack gives Micro$haft the exclusive right to remotely control all their light bulbs.

  12. Conspiracy Theory of the Day... by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 3, Interesting
    from the article, it appears that Office 11 will be "incompatible" with any MS operating system earlier then Windows 2000 SP3...

    Hmmmm....Isn't that the service pack that introduced the "you agree to let us do pretty much whatever the heck we want to your computer" clause in the EULA?

    Is MS planning to "leverage" the still-existing popularity of their Office software to push upgrades to "controlled" versions of their OS?

  13. put up and shut up by meridoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd venture to say that the majority of MS users have to use it, either for work or because that's what came on the PC when the shiny box was opened.

    Most people are used to MS products, ranging from Word to PowerPoint to other programs that are business-specific but only run on Windows platforms. Because these people don't really have a say in what they run, they just use the stuff they're used to.

    Similarly, businesses which run MS products on Windows boxes aren't going to suddenly switch to, say, Linux platforms just because. That would cost a lot of money in training all the employees. Also, some programs they used to use (I know of several small business-accounting programs and chemical drawing programs) are not available for non-Windows machines.

    Costs run businesses. Habits run costs.

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  14. Not user 'security'?? by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 2
    Win2K and XP and forward currently go to Microsoft for authentication, right???

    This means that those OSs also alow microsoft to keep a better tag on who's using how many copies of their software. They should now be able to track use by system ID -- comparing system activations to application activations. If you have a wrong pattern of activations or use too many copies, they just send a bill (or a lawyer named bill).

    Also: by refusing to work for win9[58], they also lock out wine, don't they?

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  15. There is a LARGE Difference... by Cliff · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...between "constructive criticism" and "cussing out", or "flame the ass".

    So why is it that I don't see an example of either coming form Microsoft customers? Many people have already made a good point: that working thru your rep would be the first step, but what happens when said rep isn't working for you, or isn't serving you as well as could be because of company mandated policies?

    Please do not discount this question because there seems to be an obvious answer when you look at the extremes. Everyone with a clue can figure that bit out. It's legitimate criticism that concerns me. Microsoft is deserving of a lot of it, yet aside from places like Slashdot (and other, more extreme sites), it's rarely given.

  16. I'm not saying that I gave ALL the examples... by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2


    CP/M was the OS we used before IBM began to make PCs. It was used by many vendors, and was the only OS used by most businesses. For some reason the Apple 1 and Apple II were never very big on the corporate desktop.

    I'm not saying that I gave ALL the examples of ridiculous refusal to interoperate.