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NSA Director, Congress and Monitoring

Thanks to Bruce Schneier for pointing out the testimony from NSA Director Michael Hayden, in which he talks about how the NSA worked pre-9/11 and post. And, as Bruce pointed out "...[he] tells Congress that they can best help him by going back to their constituents and finding out where the public wants to draw the line between liberty and safety."

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  1. Well... by j0nkatz · · Score: 0, Funny

    I want enough liberty to be able to use FreeBSD and enough saftey to be protected from these linux zealots!

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  2. Well... by Loki_1929 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ""...[he] tells Congress that they can best help him by going back to their constituents and finding out where the public wants to draw the line between liberty and safety." "

    Why don't you just intercept their constituents' phone calls, email, web traffic, faxes, pages, and all other forms of electronic communications, and then you'll know exactly what they want.

    Oh.. wait..

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  3. Re:Staying unsafe... by Iguanaphobic · · Score: 3, Funny

    With millions of cargo shipments coming in and thousands of planes in the air daily there's no way to secure it.

    Simple. Turn it all off. No international trade at all. Quickly, the economy would slow to the point where oil is no longer required to make it run, therefore freeing the military budget to actually perform socially useful things. Standard of living for everyone in the country would actually increase. Of course the income of the top 2% of the country would drop significantly, but hell, we could live without them and their United Defense shares anyway.

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  4. Women sense my power, but I deny them my essence. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I can NO LONGER stand idly by and allow Communist infiltration, Communist subversion...

    s/Communist/NSA/, whatever...

  5. Re:Thats it... by nogoodmonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can just see a raise in taxes because /. linked to a government site. ;-)

  6. Re:I'd have thought by Iguanaphobic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isolationism will bring even less security. We begin to ignore what other countries are doing etc.... They have a larger excuse for their hatred and a larger window of opportunity to plan things unnnoticed.

    Invade. Create new states, appoint governers and rule with an iron fist. The emperor will be pleased.

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  7. Re:don't believe it by Illuminati+Member · · Score: 3, Funny

    The NSA is probably the most secretive organization in the world, after the Freemasons and the Elks

    Something tells me you are forgetting an organization.

    Lets be philosophical, shall we. The most secretive organizations in the world you (read: your average person) probably don't even know about, or its something people 'joke about'.

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  8. Re:don't believe it by Iguanaphobic · · Score: 3, Funny

    The decision-making capabilities of the American people can be questionable at times.

    Oh, you mean like this?

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  9. anybody check the address by Xaoswolf · · Score: 2, Funny
    http://intelligence.senate.gov/0210hrg/021017/hayd en.pdf

    Intelligence.senate.gov

    Isn't that an oxymoron?

  10. Re:don't believe it by pmz · · Score: 3, Funny

    The decision-making capabilities of the American people can be questionable at times.

    Everytime I think about these things, I'm reminded of the basic theme to Star Wars. When will the citizens of the US vote for GWB to be our supreme and all-powerful tyrant?

  11. ask the public by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...[he] tells Congress that they can best help him by going back to their constituents and finding out where the public wants to draw the line between liberty and safety.

    Whoa, they have to ask Disney AND the oil industry? Unprecedented!

    (PS: It's a joke. Please don't tap my phone line.)