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Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows
An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)"
If I don't get this first post, I will lick Michael's ass.
Damn, Michael's ass will have to remain soiled for another day.
You already have your open sores GNU/Lunix. Leave Windows alone. You filthy hippies!
Insert obligatory sybian comment here
The paradigm of GNU/Linux is one of throwing off the shackles of oppressive, business-savvy regimes. The image everyone has of China, and rightfully so, is of rattan-hatted peasants being whipped in a rice field by uber-lords who merely mouth the principles of sharing and openness. The reality of GNU/Linux is that we don't eat rice, we eat pizza.
I think a better approach to spreading The Word is to stop trying to convert masses of people through "monopoly"-busting lawsuits and start working harder on fixing the problems that GNU/Linux has. For instance, why must grepping for my IP address in resolv.conf be an Olog(n) operation when the file is linearly ordered? Somebody really dropped the ball on that one; it's almost bad enough to make me use that train-wreck Windows XP *shudder*.
Best Slashdot Co
Stupid Windows comment insterted. Please restart Windows to continue.
mp3: l33t term for empty.
"we need a web site hosted somewhere"
"how much bandwidth will we need?"
"no more than 1MB/sec should do it...no need to waste money."
cut to today as the website flames up
why would anyone need ANY bogus InFactDead kode from the ill eagle payper liesense kingdumb?
no matter, we're ?thrilled? just being listed as one of the "Top 10 Companies of 2002"(tm) on fuddle's search thingy. more good gnus....
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An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" MondoMor (262881) Preferences Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? Reply to This Parent Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @11:47AM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. Reply to This Parent Symbian (Score:1) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. Reply to This Parent In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617886) SLA goatse.cx activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. Reply to This Parent Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:1) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @07:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." Reply to This Parent mirror? (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. Reply to This Parent Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:2) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. insert stupid windows comment here ---- insert stupid windows comment here ---- (Score:-1) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:42AM (#4617851) insert stupid windows comment here Reply to This Parent Preview Comment Re:insert stupid windows comment here ---- (Score:) by MondoMor on Wednesday November 06, @06:00PM (#) Insert trite slight at Microsoft here. faq code awards journals subscribe older stuff rob's page preferences submit story advertising supporters past polls topics about bugs jobs hof Sections apache Oct 30 apple Nov 7 (6 recent) askslashdot Nov 7 (21 recent) books Nov 6 (2 recent) bsd Nov 3 developers Nov 6 (4 recent) features Oct 3 interviews Nov 4 radio Jun 29 science Nov 7 (9 recent) yro Nov 6 (4 recent) Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows Posted by michael on Thursday November 07, @11:40AM from the shared-source-ha-ha-ha-ha dept. An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" MondoMor (262881) Preferences Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? Reply to This Parent Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @11:47AM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. Reply to This Parent Symbian (Score:1) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. Reply to This Parent In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617886) SLA goatse.cx activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. Reply to This Parent Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:1) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @07:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." Reply to This Parent mirror? (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. Reply to This Parent Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:2) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. Reply to This Parent RADIO SHACK LEVEL II BASIC READY >_ All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-2002 OSDN. home awards contribute story older articles OSDN advertise self serve ad system about terms of service privacy faq Post Comment Name: MondoMor Log Out Subject: Comment Insert trite slight at Microsoft here.
faq code awards journals subscribe older stuff rob's page preferences submit story advertising supporters past polls topics about bugs jobs hof Sections apache Oct 30 apple Nov 7 (6 recent) askslashdot Nov 7 (21 recent) books Nov 6 (2 recent) bsd Nov 3 developers Nov 6 (4 recent) features Oct 3 interviews Nov 4 radio Jun 29 science Nov 7 (9 recent) yro Nov 6 (4 recent) Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows Posted by michael on Thursday November 07, @11:40AM from the shared-source-ha-ha-ha-ha dept. An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" MondoMor (262881) Preferences Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? Reply to This Parent Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @11:47AM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. Reply to This Parent Symbian (Score:1) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. Reply to This Parent In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617886) SLA goatse.cx activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. Reply to This Parent Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:1) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @07:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." Reply to This Parent mirror? (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. Reply to This Parent Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:2) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. Reply to This Parent RADIO SHACK LEVEL II BASIC READY >_ All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-2002 OSDN. home awards contribute story older articles OSDN advertise self serve ad system about terms of service privacy faq (Use the Preview Button! Check those URLs! Don't forget the http://!) Plain Old Text HTML Formatted Extrans (html tags to text) Code Allowed HTML: Important Stuff: Please try to keep posts on topic. Try to reply to other people comments instead of starting new threads. Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said. Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about. 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(You can read everything, even moderated posts, by adjusting your threshold on the User Preferences Page) Problems regarding accounts or comment posting should be sent to faq code awards journals subscribe older stuff rob's page preferences submit story advertising supporters past polls topics about bugs jobs hof Sections apache Oct 30 apple Nov 7 (6 recent) askslashdot Nov 7 (21 recent) books Nov 6 (2 recent) bsd Nov 3 developers Nov 6 (4 recent) features Oct 3 interviews Nov 4 radio Jun 29 science Nov 7 (9 recent) yro Nov 6 (4 recent) Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows Posted by michael on Thursday November 07, @11:40AM from the shared-source-ha-ha-ha-ha dept. An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" MondoMor (262881) Preferences Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? Reply to This Parent Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @11:47AM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. Reply to This Parent Symbian (Score:1) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. Reply to This Parent In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617886) SLA goatse.cx activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. Reply to This Parent Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:1) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @07:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." Reply to This Parent mirror? (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. Reply to This Parent Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:2) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. insert stupid windows comment here ---- insert stupid windows comment here ---- (Score:-1) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:42AM (#4617851) insert stupid windows comment here Reply to This Parent Preview Comment Re:insert stupid windows comment here ---- (Score:) by MondoMor on Wednesday November 06, @06:00PM (#) Insert trite slight at Microsoft here. faq code awards journals subscribe older stuff rob's page preferences submit story advertising supporters past polls topics about bugs jobs hof Sections apache Oct 30 apple Nov 7 (6 recent) askslashdot Nov 7 (21 recent) books Nov 6 (2 recent) bsd Nov 3 developers Nov 6 (4 recent) features Oct 3 interviews Nov 4 radio Jun 29 science Nov 7 (9 recent) yro Nov 6 (4 recent) Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows Posted by michael on Thursday November 07, @11:40AM from the shared-source-ha-ha-ha-ha dept. An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" MondoMor (262881) Preferences Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? Reply to This Parent Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @11:47AM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. Reply to This Parent Symbian (Score:1) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. Reply to This Parent In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617886) SLA goatse.cx activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. Reply to This Parent Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:1) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @07:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." Reply to This Parent mirror? (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. Reply to This Parent Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:2) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. Reply to This Parent RADIO SHACK LEVEL II BASIC READY >_ All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-2002 OSDN. home awards contribute story older articles OSDN advertise self serve ad system about terms of service privacy faq Post Comment Name: MondoMor Log Out Subject: Comment Insert trite slight at Microsoft here.
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MondoMor (262881) Preferences Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? Reply to This Parent Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @11:47AM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @11:45AM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. Reply to This Parent Symbian (Score:1) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. Reply to This Parent In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:46AM (#4617886) SLA goatse.cx activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. Reply to This Parent Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:1) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @07:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." Reply to This Parent mirror? (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. Reply to This Parent Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:2) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @11:47AM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. Reply to This Parent RADIO SHACK LEVEL II BASIC READY >_ All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-2002 OSDN. home awards contribute story older articles OSDN advertise self serve ad system about terms of service privacy faq (Use the Preview Button! Check those URLs! Don't forget the http://!) Plain Old Text HTML Formatted Extrans (html tags to text) Code Allowed HTML: Important Stuff: Please try to keep posts on topic. Try to reply to other people comments instead of starting new threads. Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said. Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about. 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1) businesses cancel deals all the time
2) for every deal like this that sinks ms will probably ink three more
3) there is NO way we are going to get the open source boat any further by talking about the supposed evil of the competition, it takes ACTION
4) the best way you can take action is probably by taking one of the toy applications that are currently available for the 'free' os's and turn it into something real, it's a level playingfield out there.
5) nobody stops you from attacking redmond on their own turf by say working all out on a competitor for office, which is much more of a stronghold than the os will ever be.
Case in point, I just downloaded knoppix, and the msword viewer/editor that comes with it can not even properly display the simplest word documents.
And in the past lack of openness from manufacturers was no deterrent to developing applications compatible with their products, reverse assembly is perfectly acceptable.
So, stop whining and start working.
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An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" Slashdot Login Nickname: Password: [ Create a new account ] Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info | http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:47PM Re:good lord by jshare (Score:2) Thursday November 07, @12:48PM Re:good lord by Paolomania (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:51PM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Symbian (Score:2, Interesting) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info | http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. [ Reply to This | Parent ] In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617886) SLA [goatse.cx] activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:2, Funny) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info | Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @08:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." [ Reply to This | Parent ] mirror? (Score:1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:5, Insightful) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info | http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. [ Reply to This | Parent ] woo-hoo! (Score:0) by Alan Partridge on Thursday November 07, @12:48PM (#4617907) (User #516639 Info) i love it when a plan falls apart! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Slashdotted - Karma capped, just trying to help (Score:5, Informative) by br0ck on Thursday November 07, @12:48PM (#4617909) (User #237309 Info) Sendo Z100 NOT TO LAUNCH Company Statement Sendo has terminated its Smartphone development program utilising the Microsoft Windows Powered Smartphone 2002 software. As a result, Sendo regrets to announce that it will not be shipping the Z100 Smartphone. It has been a very difficult decision for Sendo given its leadership position in the development of smart devices. We are disappointed that we will not be able to ship the Z100 given the high level of interest shown in the device. Although a set back, we are pleased to announce today that we have licensed the Series 60 platform from Nokia for our smartphone category. We believe this will create the opportunity for us to continue as a lead player in the development of smartphone products for 2003. SENDO CHOOSES NOKIA'S SERIES 60 PLATFORM FOR ITS SMART PHONES Thu Nov 7 2002 Sendo, a British mobile phone manufacturer, today announced that the company has decided to license Series 60 Platform from Nokia for its smart phone category. The Series 60 is a software platform for feature- and application rich smart phones that Nokia licenses to mobile handset manufacturers. The platform is optimised to run on top of the Symbian OS. Sendo joins as the newest member to the Series 60 licensing community with Matsushita, Samsung, Siemens and Nokia. "Earlier this fall we reviewed our smart phone strategy. While our mission of providing customers with feature-rich and ubiquitous devices remains unaltered, seeing that the Series 60 fully embraces both our mission and the new strategy we decided to approach Nokia," said Hugh Brogan, Chief Executive Officer of Sendo Holdings Plc. "The platform utilises open standards and technologies, such as MMS and Java , jointly developed by the industry. The platform is robust, yet uniquely flexible, bringing great benefits to licensees, operators, developers and consumers." "We welcome Sendo, a pioneer in smart phone development, to join our Series 60 community. We see that a combination of Sendo's technical expertise and growing market presence will bring significant contribution to the mobile market with Series 60 devices. Interoperable solutions that are built on open and common industry standards are proving to be the winning formula in meeting demands of business users and consumers alike," said Niklas Savander, Vice President and General Manager, Nokia Mobile Software. Nokia licenses Series 60 Platform as a source code. The model enables licensees to contribute to the development of the platform while fully executing their individual business strategy, brand and customer requirements in fast developing and highly competitive mobile communications market. Licensees will be able to include the Series 60 into their own smart phone designs, thus speeding up the rollout of new phone models at lower costs. The Series 60 is a comprehensive software platform for smart phones, created for mobile phone users that demand easy-to-use, one-hand operated handsets with high-quality colour screens, rich communications and enhanced applications. The Series 60 platform consists of the key telephony and personal information management applications, the browser and messaging clients, as well as a complete and modifiable user interface, all designed to run on top of the Symbian OS, an operating system for advanced, data enabled mobile phones. [ Reply to This | Parent ] OH NO NOT SENDO! (Score:2) by poot_rootbeer on Thursday November 07, @12:49PM (#4617920) (User #188613 Info | http://slashdot.org/) The first and final nail in MS's coffin. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:OH NO NOT SENDO! by Alan Partridge (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:53PM I'll bet M$ is crying their eyes out! (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:49PM (#4617921) Oh no! We lost SENDO!!! Wahhhhh wahhhhh. This will sure show them! They'll be opening their code any day now! I guess any story that can be interpreted badly for Microsoft is a good candidate for Slashdot. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Sendo.co.uk eh? (Score:1) by MrFredBloggs on Thursday November 07, @12:49PM (#4617923) (User #529276 Info | http://slashdot.org/) Bigtime!! Bet MS are scared! That's gonna hurt their bottom line! [ Reply to This | Parent ] @ sendo's corporate offices... (Score:1, Redundant) by mrpuffypants (tcook@mokotEINSTE ... m minus physicist) on Thursday November 07, @12:51PM (#4617934)
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"we need a web site hosted somewhere"
"how much bandwidth will we need?"
"no more than 1MB/sec should do it...no need to waste money."
cut to today as the website flames up
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Sendo (Score:1)
by Anonymous Cowtard on Thursday November 07, @12:51PM (#4617943)
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Who the hell is "Sendo" and why should I care that this company no one has heard of has "stood up" to Microsoft?
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Re:Sendo by Alan Partridge (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:56PM
Source ? (Score:1)
by j_dot_bomb on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617948)
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Nothing about the source in the article. Nothing on the front page either. Maybe in the detail of the front page item (link) but its slashdotted. Somehow I doubt they mention the source. Only "open standards and technologies"
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Thanks! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617951)
As a big thank you to Sendo from all us Linux loving hippies, we will now /. your server.
Again, thanks!
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Sendo (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617954)
Who?
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unseen kode blew sores? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617957)
why would anyone need ANY bogus InFactDead kode from the ill eagle payper liesense kingdumb [trustworthycomputing.com]?
no matter, we're ?thrilled? just being listed as one of the "Top 10 Companies of 2002"(tm) [msn.com] on fuddle's search thingy. more good gnus....
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Can't get source? (Score:3, Insightful)
by Twid on Thursday November 07, @12:53PM (#4617962)
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I'm not sure where the "can't get source" comment in the title came from. I clicked through to the announcement, read both stories, and even translated the german text, and nothing in there said they terminated the agreement due to inability to get the source.
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Big defeat... yay... (Score:2)
by FurryFeet (joudanx@yaGINSBERGhoo.com minus poet) on Thursday November 07, @12:53PM (#4617968)
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Sendo ditched MS! Quick, sell all MS you can! Clearly it's about to go bankrupt!
Really, I'd be more worried about Sendo.
Not that I like Microsoft, but this is really non-news. MS does tens of alliances a day, and it's news when one falls through? Geez.
One more thing: If MS really cared about this deal, I bet you they could buy Sendo, stock, lock and barrel. And pay for it in cash.
How about some real news, now?
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Re:Big defeat... yay... Thursday November 07, @12:56PM
couldn't get source? (Score:2, Insightful)
by rm -rf /etc/* on Thursday November 07, @12:54PM (#4617972)
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Where did this come from? I read all the links and saw nothing about this being due to Sendo being unable to get the source... From their homepage, it sounds like they just decided Symbian was a better way to go...
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The Reg has it (Score:3, Informative)
by buzzdecafe on Thursday November 07, @12:54PM (#4617973)
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Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp [theregister.co.uk]
BTW, What happened to theregus.com? It seems to be gone. :-(
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How prominent is Sendo? (Score:2)
by burgburgburg (splisken06@noSPaM.email.com) on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617981)
(User #574866 Info)
How big a company is Sendo? How prominent are they in the field?
Sendo was listed as one of the first SmartPhone (what a misnomer) partners: who else joined? Have they put anything out yet?
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LOL (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617983)
Insert trite slight at Microsoft here.
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I wish Sendo the best of luck... (Score:1)
by GnomeKing on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617984)
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but I have to question the business heads of those who cancel a product DAYS BEFORE THE LAUNCH...
Sure, it must have been a hard decision, but unless they made some huge fkup working out the per-device costing (did they forget to license windows? ;) ) then surely its worth showing your stock holders that you HAVE something for the millions spent on R&D
But, as I said at the start of the article... good luck to them
Now, not only have they "wasted" millions, they will probably have the beast on their back
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that's not the issue (Score:2)
by jacquesm on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617987)
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1) businesses cancel deals all the time
2) for every deal like this that sinks ms will probably ink three more
3) there is NO way we are going to get the open source boat any further by talking about the supposed evil of the competition, it takes ACTION
4) the best way you can take action is probably by taking one of the toy applications that are currently available for the 'free' os's and turn it into something real, it's a level playingfield out there.
5) nobody stops you from attacking redmond on their own turf by say working all out on a competitor for office, which is much more of a stronghold than the os will ever be.
Case in point, I just downloaded knoppix [knopper.net], and the msword viewer/editor that comes with it can not even properly display the simplest word documents.
And in the past lack of openness from manufacturers was no deterrent to developing applications compatible with their products, reverse assembly is perfectly acceptable.
So, stop whining and start working.
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Jeeez (Score:1)
by cca93014 on Thursday November 07, @12:56PM (#4617997)
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It has been a very difficult decision for Sendo given its leadership position in the development of smart devices.
how can it be a leader in the market if it can't even sort out its products operating system?
What a load of marketing wank.
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Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source (Score:1)
by fava on Thursday November 07, @12:57PM (#4617999)
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I cant find any referance to the reason Sendo decided to ditch Microsoft.
Where is the referance to Microsoft source code?
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the last thing we need (Score:2)
by asv108 (alex@p[ ]audio.org ['hat' in gap]) on Thursday November 07, @12:57PM (#4618003)
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Is a phone running windows, with phones interface design is crucial, that's why I'm still using an older nokia even though my cell phone provider has the color Ericsson T68i [attws.com]. I went down to the local AT&T Store, ready to shell out the bucks for the T68i. After checking out the interface, I asked the guy when could I expect to see color Nokias. He told me December, but knowing AT&T, that translates in to March or April.
It doesn't matter what features you pack in to a phone, if the interface sucks, most people are not going to buy it. Everyone I know who has switched from Nokia to another phone in order to get the latest gadgetry has regreted it. I just wish nokia would get their ass in gear and release some of the phone that are available in fscking Africa in the US.
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LOL2 The sequel (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:58PM (#4618008)
OSDN | Our Network | Newsletters | Advertise | Shop Slashdot ----------- All OSDN Sites freshmeat Linux.com LinuxGram NewsForge OSDN.com OSDN PriceCompare Slashcode SourceForge.net X faq code awards journals subscribe older stuff rob's page preferences submit story advertising supporters past polls topics about bugs jobs hof Sections apache Oct 30 apple Nov 7 (6 recent) askslashdot Nov 7 (21 recent) books Nov 6 (2 recent) bsd Nov 3 developers Nov 6 (4 recent) features Oct 3 interviews Nov 4 radio Jun 29 science Nov 7 (9 recent) yro Nov 6 (4 recent) Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows Posted by michael on Thursday November 07, @12:40PM from the shared-source-ha-ha-ha-ha dept. An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" Slashdot Login Nickname: Password: [ Create a new account ] Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info | http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:47PM Re:good lord by jshare (Score:2) Thursday November 07, @12:48PM Re:good lord by Paolomania (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:51PM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Symbian (Score:2, Interesting) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info | http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. [ Reply to This | Parent ] In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617886) SLA [goatse.cx] activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:3, Funny) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info | Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @08:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch per
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Silly Sendo (Score:0)
by Gene303 on Thursday November 07, @12:58PM (#4618009)
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Apparently sendo doesn't want to make money. Don't get me wrong symbian is great, but at this point in time it seams to me that people would much rather buy an MS enabled phone than a Symbian one. Also, I wonder what kind of delay it will add to their device, which already has been postponed numerous times. It seems to me like its never going to make it to market.
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Don't argue that GNU/Linux is a stupid name.
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An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" Slashdot Login Nickname: Password: [ Create a new account ] Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info | http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:47PM Re:good lord by jshare (Score:2) Thursday November 07, @12:48PM Re:good lord by Paolomania (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:51PM Pay attention: It's OSS and Java by burgburgburg (Score:2) Thursday November 07, @01:00PM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Symbian (Score:2, Interesting) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info | http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. [ Reply to This | Parent ] In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617886) SLA [goatse.cx] activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:2, Funny) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info | Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @08:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch performance and it has never let me down." Many others praise Windows, too, including Chief Technology Officer Bill Patterson of Ford Motor Company, "Windows allows us to leverage our most valuable assets, people, into a world-class synergy to delight customers all over the globe." [ Reply to This | Parent ] mirror? (Score:1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617894) Gentlemen, how about a mirror? Their site appears to be served on a cell modem. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Big deal, Windows is the wrong paradigm for cell (Score:5, Insightful) by typical geek (drewbob@excite.com) on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617900) (User #261980 Info | http://slashdot.org/) phones. When you are trying to packet send and receive while jumping from cell to cell, you don't want the OS hung while a Window repaints, or an icon flickers on and off. You want an realtime OS tied down to the actual sending/recieving packets and doing the d/a a/d conversion on the speaker and microphone. You want a steady stream of conversation, you don't want the equivalent of an oral hourglass. This is also why Windowing software is also the wrong paradigm for industrial strength routers. The reason CICSCO certified people make such great money compared to test passsing MCSE monkeys is that the Cisco OS is all commandline/terminal driven, when you're routing a T3, you don't the overhead for pretty graphics. [ Reply to This | Parent ] woo-hoo! (Score:0) by Alan Partridge on Thursday November 07, @12:48PM (#4617907) (User #516639 Info) i love it when a plan falls apart! [ Reply to This | Parent ] Slashdotted - Karma capped, just trying to help (Score:5, Informative) by br0ck on Thursday November 07, @12:48PM (#4617909) (User #237309 Info) Sendo Z100 NOT TO LAUNCH Company Statement Sendo has terminated its Smartphone development program utilising the Microsoft Windows Powered Smartphone 2002 software. As a result, Sendo regrets to announce that it will not be shipping the Z100 Smartphone. It has been a very difficult decision for Sendo given its leadership position in the development of smart devices. We are disappointed that we will not be able to ship the Z100 given the high level of interest shown in the device. Although a set back, we are pleased to announce today that we have licensed the Series 60 platform from Nokia for our smartphone category. We believe this will create the opportunity for us to continue as a lead player in the development of smartphone products for 2003. SENDO CHOOSES NOKIA'S SERIES 60 PLATFORM FOR ITS SMART PHONES Thu Nov 7 2002 Sendo, a British mobile phone manufacturer, today announced that the company has decided to license Series 60 Platform from Nokia for its smart phone category. The Series 60 is a software platform for feature- and application rich smart phones that Nokia licenses to mobile handset manufacturers. The platform is optimised to run on top of the Symbian OS. Sendo joins as the newest member to the Series 60 licensing community with Matsushita, Samsung, Siemens and Nokia. "Earlier this fall we reviewed our smart phone strategy. While our mission of providing customers with feature-rich and ubiquitous devices remains unaltered, seeing that the Series 60 fully embraces both our mission and the new strategy we decided to approach Nokia," said Hugh Brogan, Chief Executive Officer of Sendo Holdings Plc. "The platform utilises open standards and technologies, such as MMS and Java , jointly developed by the industry. The platform is robust, yet uniquely flexible, bringing great benefits to licensees, operators, developers and consumers." "We welcome Sendo, a pioneer in smart phone development, to join our Series 60 community. We see that a combination of Sendo's technical expertise and growing market presence will bring significant contribution to the mobile market with Series 60 devices. Interoperable solutions that are built on open and common industry standards are proving to be the winning formula in meeting demands of business users and consumers alike," said Niklas Savander, Vice President and General Manager, Nokia Mobile Software. Nokia licenses Series 60 Platform as a source code. The model enables licensees to contribute to the development of the platform while fully executing their individual business strategy, brand and customer requirements in fast developing and highly competitive mobile communications market. Licensees will be able to include the Series 60 into their own smart phone designs, thus speeding up the rollout of new phone models at lower costs. The Series 60 is a comprehensive software platform for smart phones, created for mobile phone users that demand easy-to-use, one-hand operated handsets with high-quality colour screens, rich communications and enhanced applications. The Series 60 platform consists of the key telephony and personal information management applications, the browser and messaging clients, as well as a complete and modifiable user interface, all designed to run on top of the Symbian OS, an operating system for advanced, data enabled mobile phones. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Slashdotted - Karma capped, just trying to help Thursday November 07, @01:00PM OH NO NOT SENDO! (Score:2) by poot_rootbeer on Thursday November 07, @12:49PM (#4617920) (User #188613 Info | http://slashdot.org/) The first and final nail in MS's coffin. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:OH NO NOT SENDO! by Alan Partridge (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:53PM Re:OH NO NOT SENDO! by Gizzmonic (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @01:00PM I'll bet M$ is crying their eyes out! (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:49PM (#4617921) Oh no! We lost SENDO!!! Wahhhhh wahhhhh. This will sure show them! They'll be opening their code any day now! I guess any story that can be interpreted badly for Microsoft is a good candidate for Slashdot. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Sendo.co.uk eh? (Score:1) by MrFredBloggs on Thursday November 07, @12:49PM (#4617923) (User #529276 Info | http://slashdot.org/) Bigtime!! Bet MS are scared! That's gonna hurt their bottom line! [ Reply to This | Parent ] @ sendo's corporate offices... (Score:0, Offtopic) by mrpuffypants (tcook@mokotEINSTE ... m minus physicist) on Thursday November 07, @12:51PM (#4617934)
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"we need a web site hosted somewhere"
"how much bandwidth will we need?"
"no more than 1MB/sec should do it...no need to waste money."
cut to today as the website flames up
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Sendo (Score:1)
by Anonymous Cowtard on Thursday November 07, @12:51PM (#4617943)
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Who the hell is "Sendo" and why should I care that this company no one has heard of has "stood up" to Microsoft?
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Re:Sendo by Alan Partridge (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:56PM
Source ? (Score:1)
by j_dot_bomb on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617948)
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Nothing about the source in the article. Nothing on the front page either. Maybe in the detail of the front page item (link) but its slashdotted. Somehow I doubt they mention the source. Only "open standards and technologies"
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Thanks! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617951)
As a big thank you to Sendo from all us Linux loving hippies, we will now /. your server.
Again, thanks!
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Sendo (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617954)
Who?
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unseen kode blew sores? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:52PM (#4617957)
why would anyone need ANY bogus InFactDead kode from the ill eagle payper liesense kingdumb [trustworthycomputing.com]?
no matter, we're ?thrilled? just being listed as one of the "Top 10 Companies of 2002"(tm) [msn.com] on fuddle's search thingy. more good gnus....
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Can't get source? (Score:4, Informative)
by Twid on Thursday November 07, @12:53PM (#4617962)
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I'm not sure where the "can't get source" comment in the title came from. I clicked through to the announcement, read both stories, and even translated the german text, and nothing in there said they terminated the agreement due to inability to get the source.
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Re:Can't get source? by lovebyte (Score:3) Thursday November 07, @12:58PM
Big defeat... yay... (Score:2)
by FurryFeet (joudanx@yaGINSBERGhoo.com minus poet) on Thursday November 07, @12:53PM (#4617968)
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Sendo ditched MS! Quick, sell all MS you can! Clearly it's about to go bankrupt!
Really, I'd be more worried about Sendo.
Not that I like Microsoft, but this is really non-news. MS does tens of alliances a day, and it's news when one falls through? Geez.
One more thing: If MS really cared about this deal, I bet you they could buy Sendo, stock, lock and barrel. And pay for it in cash.
How about some real news, now?
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Re:Big defeat... yay... Thursday November 07, @12:56PM
couldn't get source? (Score:2, Insightful)
by rm -rf /etc/* on Thursday November 07, @12:54PM (#4617972)
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Where did this come from? I read all the links and saw nothing about this being due to Sendo being unable to get the source... From their homepage, it sounds like they just decided Symbian was a better way to go...
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The Reg has it (Score:3, Informative)
by buzzdecafe on Thursday November 07, @12:54PM (#4617973)
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Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp [theregister.co.uk]
BTW, What happened to theregus.com? It seems to be gone. :-(
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How prominent is Sendo? (Score:2)
by burgburgburg (splisken06@noSPaM.email.com) on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617981)
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How big a company is Sendo? How prominent are they in the field?
Sendo was listed as one of the first SmartPhone (what a misnomer) partners: who else joined? Have they put anything out yet?
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LOL (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617983)
Insert trite slight at Microsoft here.
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I wish Sendo the best of luck... (Score:1)
by GnomeKing on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617984)
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but I have to question the business heads of those who cancel a product DAYS BEFORE THE LAUNCH...
Sure, it must have been a hard decision, but unless they made some huge fkup working out the per-device costing (did they forget to license windows? ;) ) then surely its worth showing your stock holders that you HAVE something for the millions spent on R&D
But, as I said at the start of the article... good luck to them
Now, not only have they "wasted" millions, they will probably have the beast on their back
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that's not the issue (Score:2)
by jacquesm on Thursday November 07, @12:55PM (#4617987)
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1) businesses cancel deals all the time
2) for every deal like this that sinks ms will probably ink three more
3) there is NO way we are going to get the open source boat any further by talking about the supposed evil of the competition, it takes ACTION
4) the best way you can take action is probably by taking one of the toy applications that are currently available for the 'free' os's and turn it into something real, it's a level playingfield out there.
5) nobody stops you from attacking redmond on their own turf by say working all out on a competitor for office, which is much more of a stronghold than the os will ever be.
Case in point, I just downloaded knoppix [knopper.net], and the msword viewer/editor that comes with it can not even properly display the simplest word documents.
And in the past lack of openness from manufacturers was no deterrent to developing applications compatible with their products, reverse assembly is perfectly acceptable.
So, stop whining and start working.
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Jeeez (Score:1)
by cca93014 on Thursday November 07, @12:56PM (#4617997)
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It has been a very difficult decision for Sendo given its leadership position in the development of smart devices.
how can it be a leader in the market if it can't even sort out its products operating system?
What a load of marketing wank.
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Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source (Score:1)
by fava on Thursday November 07, @12:57PM (#4617999)
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I cant find any referance to the reason Sendo decided to ditch Microsoft.
Where is the referance to Microsoft source code?
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the last thing we need (Score:2)
by asv108 (alex@p[ ]audio.org ['hat' in gap]) on Thursday November 07, @12:57PM (#4618003)
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Is a phone running windows, with phones interface design is crucial, that's why I'm still using an older nokia even though my cell phone provider has the color Ericsson T68i [attws.com]. I went down to the local AT&T Store, ready to shell out the bucks for the T68i. After checking out the interface, I asked the guy when could I expect to see color Nokias. He told me December, but knowing AT&T, that translates in to March or April.
It doesn't matter what features you pack in to a phone, if the interface sucks, most people are not going to buy it. Everyone I know who has switched from Nokia to another phone in order to get the latest gadgetry has regreted it. I just wish nokia would get their ass in gear and release some of the phone that are available in fscking Africa in the US.
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LOL2 The sequel (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:58PM (#4618008)
OSDN | Our Network | Newsletters | Advertise | Shop Slashdot ----------- All OSDN Sites freshmeat Linux.com LinuxGram NewsForge OSDN.com OSDN PriceCompare Slashcode SourceForge.net X faq code awards journals subscribe older stuff rob's page preferences submit story advertising supporters past polls topics about bugs jobs hof Sections apache Oct 30 apple Nov 7 (6 recent) askslashdot Nov 7 (21 recent) books Nov 6 (2 recent) bsd Nov 3 developers Nov 6 (4 recent) features Oct 3 interviews Nov 4 radio Jun 29 science Nov 7 (9 recent) yro Nov 6 (4 recent) Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows Posted by michael on Thursday November 07, @12:40PM from the shared-source-ha-ha-ha-ha dept. An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" Slashdot Login Nickname: Password: [ Create a new account ] Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info | http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:47PM Re:good lord by jshare (Score:2) Thursday November 07, @12:48PM Re:good lord by Paolomania (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:51PM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Symbian (Score:2, Interesting) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info | http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. [ Reply to This | Parent ] In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617886) SLA [goatse.cx] activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:3, Funny) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info | Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @08:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch per
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Silly Sendo (Score:0)
by Gene303 on Thursday November 07, @12:58PM (#4618009)
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Apparently sendo doesn't want to make money. Don't get me wrong symbian is great, but at this point in time it seams to me that people would much rather buy an MS enabled phone than a Symbian one. Also, I wonder what kind of delay it will add to their device, which already has been postponed numerous times. It seems to me like its never going to make it to market.
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Mirror of site posting and some other news... (Score:3, Interesting)
by DAldredge ([moC.egderdlA] [ta] [todhsalS]) on Thursday November 07, @01:00PM (#4618025)
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Sendo Z100 NOT TO LAUNCH
Company Statement
Sendo has terminated its Smartphone development program utilising the Microsoft Windows Powered Smartphone 2002 software.
As a result, Sendo regrets to announce that it will not be shipping the Z100 Smartphone.
It has been a very difficult decision for Sendo given its leadership position in the development of smart devices. We are disappointed that we will not be able to ship the Z100 given the high level of interest shown in the device.
Although a set back, we are pleased to announce today that we have licensed the Series 60 platform from Nokia for our smartphone category. We believe this will create the opportunity for us to continue as a lead player in the development of smartphone products for 2003.
SENDO CHOOSES NOKIA'S SERIES 60 PLATFORM FOR ITS SMART PHONES
Thu Nov 7 2002
Sendo, a British mobile phone manufacturer, today announced that the company has decided to license Series 60 Platform from Nokia for its smart phone category. The Series 60 is a software platform for feature- and application rich smart phones that Nokia licenses to mobile handset manufacturers. The platform is optimised to run on top of the Symbian OS. Sendo joins as the newest member to the Series 60 licensing community with Matsushita, Samsung, Siemens and Nokia.
"Earlier this fall we reviewed our smart phone strategy. While our mission of providing customers with feature-rich and ubiquitous devices remains unaltered, seeing that the Series 60 fully embraces both our mission and the new strategy we decided to approach Nokia," said Hugh Brogan, Chief Executive Officer of Sendo Holdings Plc. "The platform utilises open standards and technologies, such as MMS and Java , jointly developed by the industry. The platform is robust, yet uniquely flexible, bringing great benefits to licensees, operators, developers and consumers."
"We welcome Sendo, a pioneer in smart phone development, to join our Series 60 community. We see that a combination of Sendo's technical expertise and growing market presence will bring significant contribution to the mobile market with Series 60 devices. Interoperable solutions that are built on open and common industry standards are proving to be the winning formula in meeting demands of business users and consumers alike," said Niklas Savander, Vice President and General Manager, Nokia Mobile Software.
Nokia licenses Series 60 Platform as a source code. The model enables licensees to contribute to the development of the platform while fully executing their individual business strategy, brand and customer requirements in fast developing and highly competitive mobile communications market. Licensees will be able to include the Series 60 into their own smart phone designs, thus speeding up the rollout of new phone models at lower costs.
The Series 60 is a comprehensive software platform for smart phones, created for mobile phone users that demand easy-to-use, one-hand operated handsets with high-quality colour screens, rich communications and enhanced applications. The Series 60 platform consists of the key telephony and personal information management applications, the browser and messaging clients, as well as a complete and modifiable user interface, all designed to run on top of the Symbian OS, an operating system for advanced, data enabled mobile phones.
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New H1B visa bill signed into law
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"It is now official. On November 2, US President George Bush signed the department of justice Authorisation Bill which will make extension for H-1B visas easier.
It will also make it possible for more Indian doctors to live and work in the US once their academic programme is over.
The extension of H-1B visas will particularly benefit the IT sector. This is good news for Indian H-1B visa holders, as nearly 50% of them are working in the high-tech sector. "
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/h tml/uncomp/articleshow?artid=27499106
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LOL3 I AM T HE REAL JOHN (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @01:01PM (#4618033)
OSDN | Our Network | Newsletters | Advertise | Shop Slashdot ----------- All OSDN Sites freshmeat Linux.com LinuxGram NewsForge OSDN.com OSDN PriceCompare Slashcode SourceForge.net X faq code awards journals subscribe older stuff rob's page preferences submit story advertising supporters past polls topics about bugs jobs hof Sections apache Oct 30 apple Nov 7 (6 recent) askslashdot Nov 7 (21 recent) books Nov 6 (2 recent) bsd Nov 3 developers Nov 6 (4 recent) features Oct 3 interviews Nov 4 radio Jun 29 science Nov 7 (9 recent) yro Nov 6 (4 recent) Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows Posted by michael on Thursday November 07, @12:40PM from the shared-source-ha-ha-ha-ha dept. An anonymous submitter wrote: "Just when you thought the award-winning data leech Microsoft had become invincible... cellphone manufacturer Sendo, in a statement on the front page of its web site, announces the termination of its Z100 smartphone development on the Microsoft platform, licensing the rival Symbian from Nokia instead. (Further reports by ZDnet and Heise.)" Slashdot Login Nickname: Password: [ Create a new account ] Related Links Ad: PriceCompare award-winning data leech Microsoft invincible statement on the front page of its web site smartphone development on the Microsoft platform Symbian Nokia ZDnet Heise More on Handhelds Also by michael ) on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617876) (User #132088 Info | http://www.everythin...anotherone&type=user) Are the editors not even trying to appear like normal, rational human beings rather than blithering idiot linux fanboys? I'm really sure that losing some cell phone deal will sink "that data leech" Microsoft. I'm not even sure I get that one... what's a data leech? [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:good lord by cwis42 (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:47PM Re:good lord by jshare (Score:2) Thursday November 07, @12:48PM Re:good lord by Paolomania (Score:1) Thursday November 07, @12:51PM M$ finally gets screwed! (Score:2, Funny) by hbmartin on Thursday November 07, @12:45PM (#4617878) (User #579860 Info) Oh, I'm sure they'll repent to everybody they ever screwed, now that they know what it feels like. NOT! They'll probably just use more Halloween stuff to kill Nokia and Sendo. Anyway, it's nice to see a company slap M$ in the face on their front page. It kinda give me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Or mabe that's just the caffeine. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Symbian (Score:2, Interesting) by stewart.hector (s.hNecOtor-@viSrPgiAn.n-Me!t) on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617883) (User #87816 Info | http://freespace.virgin.net/s.hector/index.html) Well, hopefully (but I doubt it), this will be the death nail for stinker. Symbian is reliable, isn't bloated and open. Every thing stinker isn't. I am so glad this has happened. This now leaves MS will NO stinker phones out there - or coming very soon. Symbian have to convince MS lovers that Stinker phones smartphones isn't the way to go. Just imagine having to install virus checkers on your smartphone and disable all the features to keep your MS phone secure from viruses that try to phone up premuim rate numbers! No thanks. [ Reply to This | Parent ] In a related story... (Score:-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, @12:46PM (#4617886) SLA [goatse.cx] activist Patty Hearst publicly announced her overwhelming support for Sendo's decision. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Not using Windows? Are they insane?? (Score:2, Funny) by PhysicsGenius (physics_seeker@yaRASPhoo.com minus berry) on Thursday November 07, @12:47PM (#4617892) (User #565228 Info | Last Journal: Tuesday September 17, @08:38AM) Windows keeps on getting better and better. From it's award-winning design to it's revolutionary kernel architecture, Windows is the best in the biz. Says Internet Guru Dan Hertzfeld, "I rely on Windows and Office for Windows every day to deliver top-notch per
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...that after leaving my user logged into /. on a public computer in IE in Windows XP, I am ditching Microsoft as well
God I am such an ass
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