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Neutron Stars Partially Dissected
mmol_6453 writes "An article at ScienceDaily details and explains observations that offer the first proof that what we consider neutron stars really are neutron superfluids. The original press release can be found here."
Okay, if it's a superfluid, then is there an adult swim?
Seriously, is ther a star smaller than a quark star but bigger than a black hole? Call me dense, but I've not been more than a casual observer of astronomy.
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Is this anything other than a summary of this?
Dissected? Ouch - where'd they get the knife? Even the ones on the infomercials only claim to be tough enough to cut tin cans.
I would imagine at those super pressures found in a neutron star that our ways of defining states of matter would be of no relative importence. In the soup that is a neutron star, nuclear forces would dissasemble the parts of an atom. Now as we all know, there are 3 states of matter, solid, liquid, and gaseous, but a lot of people don't know about about a forth or even beyond. When one heats up a gas to super temperatures (like that found in a neutron star) the atoms will no longer be bound by their forces within them and neutrons will fly from protons in the nucleus, while the electrons would also start acting strangly. If we up the temp even more, the subatomic particles will start breaking down into their quarks and neutrinos. I am not sure what that state of matter is called, but that can happen in a neutron star. (just for fun, if you keep on heating the quarks and such, you would eventually rip a hole in space/time and I would really recomend leaving the room where you are doing this :)
Now my question is, this slush of various subatomic particles in the star: can you call it liquid? Another question is if you were to disect a neutron star, the subatomic particles would quickly reassemble themselves and you would be left with Hydrogen, wouldn't that leave you with almost no insite to a neutron? I could see how exciting this would be in an attempt to explain the seconds after the big bang, but just to explain superfluids?
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A neutron star is typically only about 20 km across, yet within this small region may be over 10 solar masses of material. The result is a gravitational field at the surface of a neutron star about 70 trillion times stronger than that on Earth. In structure, a neutron star more closely resembles a liquid, miniature planet than it does an ordinary star. Its core consists mainly of densely-packed neutrons, with a sprinkling of protons and typically 3 times as many electrons as protons, in a liquid-like state known as neutronisticis. Surrounding this is a mantle topped by a crust, perhaps 2 feet thick, consisting of a brittle lattice of nuclei of the same elements as found in the Sun through which flows a sea of electrons. The highest possible "mountains" rise to a height of about 1-10 micrometers , while electrons and heavy nuclei boil on the surface temperature of 80,000C to produce a "liquid atmosphere" maybe a few micrometers thick. As a neutron star cools and grows, strains develop in the crust so that it buckles, causing starquakes equal to 1000 on the richter scale.
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As we all know, there are actually four states of matter: solid, liquid, gaseous and plasma.
Arg, I was going to moderate this post, but there's no (-1, uninformed) option. I know, I know, he says IANAP, which I can only assume can mean I Am Not A Physicist. However, that does not make up for the fact that he is just pulling this out of thin air. Oh, and btw, IAAP ;-)
> As we all know, there are actually four states of matter: solid, liquid, gaseous and plasma.
As every Slashdotter knows, there are five states of matter: solid, liquid, gaseous, plasma, and beowulf cluster.
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yet within this small region may be over 10 solar masses of material.
Had you read the article, you would have seen that neutron stars are thought to contain the mass of about 1.4 suns. Barring certain speculative theories of exotic matter, no cold (i.e., not undergoing fusion) stellar configuration can have a mass greater than 5 suns. See, for example, Misner, Thorne, Wheeler, page 627.
The result is a gravitational field at the surface of a neutron star about 70 trillion times stronger than that on Earth.
Given that neutron stars have mass about 500,000 times that of the earth, and radius about 1/400 earth radius, one can use the Newtonian inverse-square law approximation to get a factor of about 80 billion, which is considerably less than your figure. Where did you get these numbers?
Its core consists mainly of densely-packed neutrons, with a sprinkling of protons and typically 3 times as many electrons as protons, in a liquid-like state known as neutronisticis.
Do you have a reference for this? Most models of neutron stars treat the core as a degenerate Fermi gas, and as another poster noted, your star seems to have a net negative charge. Where did the protons go? Also, this is the first time I've encountered the word "neutronisticis". A Google search turns up nothing but this very post.
As a neutron star cools and grows, strains develop in the crust so that it buckles, causing starquakes equal to 1000 on the richter scale.
Starquakes are thought to be possible, but if our time frame is more than a few seconds after formation, the cause is probably not due to thermal stresses. This is because the thermal contribution to pressure and density is negligible as long as the temperature of a neutron star is below the Fermi energy of matter at nuclear density (about 30MeV, or 3*10^11 K - see MTW page 599, referenced above), and neutrino radiation brings the temperature well below this level very rapidly.
The Richter scale is logarithmic, based at 105 Joules for a degree 0 quake (reference), and growing by a factor of 1000 for every two degrees. A quake registering 1000 would have to release 1.05*10^1502 Joules, which is much more than the mass-energy contained in the observable universe. Indeed, it is quite impossible for any stellar-scale phenomenon to register more than 40 on the Richter scale, simply because stars don't have enough mass to release that kind of energy.
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My understanding is that when a neutron star becomes too dense it collapses into a black hole. From this it would seem that the size boundaries for quark stars would be very tight, the star would have to be dense enough to liberate the quarks but not so dense as to collapse into a black hole. Or am I on crack here?
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yeah I just had a question for whoever knows the answer. Ok so when a star gets old and dies and whatnot and collapses into a black hole, isn't it true that there is no way for any matter to escape at this point? I thought that this was because the gravity was such that space time curved so sharply that even light would find itself in a perpetual orbit around the black hole if it fell below the event horizon. I always have this picture in my mind of how that might work. ( of course there is no way to visualize it because light couldn't communicate information in a human decypherable way in this state, but you know. ) My thought was that if you could shine a laser at the exact point of the event horizon, the light would instantly loop around and form a perfect eternal circle arount the black hole, If you kept shining the laser for a year, and then were able to look at the event horizon as if it were coming straight on, like watching the sun rise, you would see all of the photons you had propelled into the black hole over that years time all at once, in a perpetual orbit. That is, assuming some space rock or star or something didn't cross their path while plumeting to their doom. Just sick visual imagery, I don't think I am getting my point across. ok But my question was this: If the big bang was an explosion of energy that contained all of the energy ever to exist (and later to cool into matter -- I don't understand that at all, btw) Why was the gravitational pull of all of this shit not enough to curve/rip spacetime into the one big black hole, and creation end there? Also I have heard something to the effect that black holes slowly evaporate by emitting X-rays. If other forms of electromagnetic radiation (light and such) can not escape, then what is special about X-rays? And if black holes do slowly lose mass due to x-ray evaporation, then do they explode all at once when they get back down to a mass that can not sustain such compression, thus weakening gravity, thus exploding bigger, thus weakening gravity some more? Any insight? sorry for my ignorance in physics.
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