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Theoretical Physics Breakthrough or Hoax?

Brooklyn Bob writes "Ever get the feeling that some theoretical physics papers just don't make sense? According to this New York Times article, you may be right. Genius or gibberish? Who knows?" This belongs on your virtual refrigerator with nice big virtual magnet.

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  1. Idea: by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Enforce the google parnet link on ALL nyt links posted in articles. Why? Because is so damned much easier. Reject stories without parnet nyt links, reduce the karma of the submitter, send cowboyneal over with a stick of butter and some mild narcotic, anything! The easy links are there people, use them when you submit something!

  2. Before Physics by 3seas · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Before the beginning, there was less than nothing, not even existance existed for there to be anything to exist in. And it was that way for an eternity of eternities of even beyond eternities.

    But then something happened smaller than you can know, even smaller than that.

    The void became aware of itself and at that very same moment, the void split into the potential for all things. Existance and the observation, awareness of the potential. The essence of physics and nature. Existance and what can be done within it, experienced.

    Suddenly existance was, and so was consciousness, the split of less than nothing.

    What to do next? Survive! It's certainly better than less than nothing. It is More!

    That ment expanding, creating stuff in existance.....it started out very very slow, taking almost an eternity to make the first interaction happen, time was a very difficult thing to create, but in time the momentem would built up to increase the creation of what all is existing in existance. Of course this too goes on for what seems to be now at least a measureable eternity.

    Eventually, the odds of cycling thru all possibilities on what existed in existance a spark of life would be found, and the awareness became aware of another perspective, one within existance. A very small and limited awareness that was, at that moment, understood to be a way to forever increase the experience ability of what all exist in existance... to forever increase the rate and complexity of creation and experience.

    And forever beyond eternity the expansion happens, and at all moments, the all of existance, what is in it and it's awareness, is fully aware of itself. Realizing there is nothing at all, not even existance, outside of itself. So to survive, to exist, it forever expands and has been doing this for a long long time.

    etc.....

    But what of us, mankind? What's our part?

    Well besides the obvious being that we are like sensors, cameras, recorders, communication senders, witnesses of the experience of what existance presents us, we are also intended to assist in the expansion of existance and what exist in it.

    A matter of survival, you understand. However, we were not given a full set of the perceptions of all things, for we are within what exist in existance, and therefore inherently limited in our perception. But being given the ability to create, we are given the ability to overcome these limitations. And we are not alone, far from it.

    To follow the rest, requires a break, a look back at our history, mans history, our evolution, our creation, and realize how far we have come, while projecting where we will go in our future based upon the path of our past.

    At some point in the future, maybe not so distant, we will come to understand physics and nature so well that we can travel to the edge of existance or go out into our back yard and cause a big bang to happen out of nothing more than less than nothing. Perhaps take a gravity unit aand collaspe it in a non-balanced manner and ccause a boom before you know it, causing the all of existance to expand.

    Now lets say we don't do it in our back yard, that we have the knowledge to do it on the borders of existance...boom...we create a new and unique galaxy or galaxies. And we know that it will prove fruitful, that some place in all of it we will be able to help iniate the evolution of life again. And we know that just as our history has shown us, we can help that life become conscious so to also contribute to the expansion of existance and what exist in it.

    When is existance big enough? The answer is not what you might think. For that's not the real question to explain the expanding result. For the answer is, expansion is the indicator of growth, life, assurance of continuation. As soon as expansion stops or reverses, you get the indication of stagnation, enthropy, shrinkage, death. It's not a matter of what is, but a matter of which direction you are going.

    There was a time in mans evolution, not unlike the evolution of other life forms thru out existance, that man was without abstract thoughts, like a bird that somehow knows to fly south for the winter yet can travel back to where they were born in the spring. Or a crab that knows to go to higher ground when a serious storm is approaching.... When Man was without guilt, for he had not the ability to know the abstraction of man made guilt.

    Man was even able to create societies without the need for abstract thought. No guilt, no crime, just existing like a herd of sheep, aware of the harshness of life and the value of sticking together in a heard.

    But as the size of the societies man created, grew, so did the complexity of functioning productively in society. Society began to break down, for what amounts to the benefits of society, better protection against the harshness of the wild resulted in increased population. And that increase in population cause an increase in complexity beyond the non-abstract communication or languages that were able to evolve without, or prior to, the invention of higher level abstractions.

    One example of this breakdown has been told in the story of the tower of babel. The building of a tower to reach heaven, for all the benefits and values of working together lead them to believe, finally salvation. But it was not yet to be, for seasons we could not see at the time. This event is said to be what resulted in the different cultures and peoples of this world. Or perhaps this sort of event happened in different ways thru different cultures and places at different times, perhaps more than once thruout the world before it finally reached stability of difference.

    The splitting and dividing resulting from the permature effort to reach the whole. As it was in the beginning before the beginning. Expansion providing the endless quest for the answer. It's the question that drives us..... what is the whole. And the only way to get there, is to continuing expanding the awareness, the consciousness and it's ability to comprehend the whole. And when you finally get there, you'll know, it's all about survival. The need to expand as an indicator, knowing. For to know and be content, do nothing, is to revert to less than nothing where what all there is, is obviously nothing to be aware of.

    There was a time when we did not know guilt, but sociey caused us a need to invent higher level abstraction in order to survive and manage greaters levels of society, and greater benefits of. Certainly the invention was well intended, but as many well intending things become, abuseable, abstraction at such higher levels also leads to the discovery of deception.

    Certainly before this, a man knew he existed "I am" as his heart raced and he ran as fast as he could to get away from the hungry tiger. But he did not murder his brother or take his own life, rather only hunted and ate what they killed or found growing in the land and sea.

    But we were intended to evolve beyond such limitations and as such, knowing the creatures we were intended to be, those who planted our seeds of life ...creating us, knew what to expect of our evolution. Just as we will know what to expect of the evolution of any life we create within a galaxy we create, Even today we are playing around with creating new and unique life, life beyond the natural creation process. Life created thru the communication of higher level abstractions. Inventions that such abstractions have allowed us to understand, create, and communicate greater awareness of reality and power over it. Even here we are able to alter our own life form, improve upon it, even give ourselves, the future of mankind, better and new perception abilities. Who knows, perhaps one day soon, we that are alive will naturally "see" energy we today are not so aware of. Or have the sences to apply mental telapathy in an every day use manner, as our language today is so very limited and time consuming to use.

    But one step at a time. And again as our population grows and our technology re-enables the combining of our languages that once separated us....... well...... the question will be.... Why are we fighting? And we will realize what has already begun being realized, that it is the intentional wrongful manipulaion of abstractions that are the source of the problems. And that such deceptions are being done by a very small minority who had found it was easier to take unearned value from others for themselves rather than to help produce it and share it, all thru deceptions applied.

    Outside looking in, it is understood that this deception phase of mans evolution was not only expected to happen but will reach it's ultimate limitation. And that the only way to continue the expansion of existance and what exist in it is to overcome the problem of deception, to become master over the beast of deception and it's bottomless endless pit of possible deceptions .666.... (2/3rds) what is, mixed with .333... (1/3) of what is not (what is distortion of what is), or maybe I have that backassward. Never the less, yes, that does only amount to .999.... (repeating decimal). carried all the way out in split infinity....... What is it that makes the smaller than small, and smaller than that, difference? What it is that drives survival? That allows us to know the whole when it is otherwise impossible to see, due our inherent subjectiveness within existance? Love!

    Will we again become ignorant of guilt, deception, revert to a lower level of communication and live in far more limited ways NO! We have tried that already! And we know that it only would mean we'd just have to go thru it all again. And to really do it, It'd also mean that we would have make serious reduction in population either from a huge man made disaster, serious nuclear (sp?) war.... or something we'd consider natural and beyond our ability to control, like an asteroid. To reduce the go forth and multiply force of population and the complexity and problems population forces us to solve, like higher level abstraction creation.

    Next step, move beyond deception.... and if we don't....

    From the outside looking in, which would take longer to recover from? And if you were a farmer with such a problem with your crop, that you could either let it follow a natural course of self distruction or your own control over it's distruction that you'd then likely have greater control over it's recovery...replanting .....etc.?

    If you can never know the whole, due to inherent subjectivity of being within existance, how can you be without error?

    Be a generator of that smallest of difference, what is smaller than even that.

    2/3 what is + 1/3 of what can be and a touch of love = expansion. It is the equasion that converts .999... into 1.0... the knowing of the whole without seeing it.

    Nobody can tell you what it is. You have to see it for yourself, the deceptions, the doubts. But love....that is somehing you know. You just know. There is no decpetions, not doubts, just the certainty of knowing.

    We will go beyond the limitations of the use of deceptions. Or we will be distroyed to make room for another crop.

    The signs say it's time......

    What's interesting, is what it means to become aware of the deceptions, so that deceptions can be seen for what they are and then deflated in vlaue to the nothingness they are. To see the code of the matrix and defeat the wrongful taking of unearned value, to defeat deception.

    To know thyself.

  3. Re:Your answer by superyooser · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Go play your superstitious games elsewhere

    I don't believe in evolution.

    Religion has caused more misery and death in this world than any other force or disease

    First off, religion is not a disease; you're comparing apples to oranges. As for comparing to another "force" (I assume you mean belief system), your comparison is untrue. Christians and Jews have most often been the ones persecuted, not the ones doing the persecution. More Christians were murdered in the 20th century (mostly at the hands of atheistic dictators) than in all previous time. Stalin killed 50 million innocent people. Hitler killed 11 million. Both were atheists.

    In particular, Hitler was a champion of Darwinism, which provided him the moral impetus to denigrate Jews as a "disfavoured people." I might agree with you if we can consider Darwinism a religion.

    I don't defend non-Christian religion anyway. As far as I'm concerned, their killings can be chalked up to the column that includes atheism. The two categories are not Religion and non-Religion; they are Christian and non-Christian.