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New Movie Download Pay Service

SailorBob writes " After nearly two years in production, Hollywood-backed Movielink is giving the green light to its online movie rental service. The Web site, a joint project of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Universal and Warner Bros., will debut Monday with a limited selection of first-run and classic films from the five major motion pictures studios, in a test of the technology to select U.S. residents. Though the film studios have licensed content to other video-on-demand sites, it is the first time they've introduced a service of their own. Of course, just like the new music services, this is also only available to US residents. "

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  1. 24 hours to watch it all once downloaded by MikeDX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hmmm.

    When I first saw the headline I assumed it was going to a great step towards truly using the power of the internet and online sales.

    However, this is nothing more than glorified movie rental with the user paying well over the odds.

    I've been using something called DVDSONTAP for a while now, pay £9.99 a month and rent as many dvds as I like and send them back when I like. $4.99 AND the "pleasure" of downloading AND having to install their DRM crap? No thanks. I'll stick to regular DVD and of course, leeching from usenet ;)

    1. Re:24 hours to watch it all once downloaded by Spunk · · Score: 5, Informative

      We have this in the US too. Netflix charges $20/month. I don't own a DVD player, but I've heard good things about them.

  2. Windows only for now. by donkeyDevil · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's early on for Movielink, but in its initial incarnation, its strictly Windows & Strictly IE. If you try anything else, you'll get:

    Thank you for your interest in Movielink. We want you to take part in the powerful Internet movie rental experience that Movielink delivers; however, you currently do not meet our minimum system requirements. You will need to adjust the following:
    *
    You Need Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP


    Running Netscape, even on Windows will get you:


    Thank you for your interest in Movielink. We want you to take part in the powerful Internet movie rental experience that Movielink delivers; however, you currently do not meet our minimum system requirements. You will need to adjust the following:

    You need Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher - Upgrade Now


    Spoofing your browser & javascript settings will just hang your machine.

  3. "Work made for hire" is weaker outside the USA by yerricde · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dont they want money from outside the US?

    The difference is that in the United States, the studios own the movies' copyrights because of the "work made for hire" rule. Elsewhere, the "work made for hire" rule applies less or not at all, and the studios do not own the movies; the director, screenwriter, and score composer do. The studios may have to negotiate a separate contract for each country where the service is offered.

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  4. Tried it by SirAnodos · · Score: 5, Informative

    I tried it last night. Rented and downloaded an older classic for $1.99 (took 1.08 hours on my DSL). It seems their codec could have been much better. I have seen DivX movies the same size (628MB) and same length movie that were higher quality. I would say the quality was similar to VHS. I don't know what codec they are using, but it doesn't seem like MPEG4, which is what I would like to see them use to make maximum use of bandwidth.
    This service would actually be useful for us, because we live so far away from any rental store... and sometimes have problems getting the movies back on time. :-)
    We usually watch DVDs on the computer anyway.
    If a service opens up that uses MPEG4 (or DivX) and has good prices, then we will be using it quite frequently.

  5. Re:Whats wrong with my money? by fjordboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    while forcing the rest of the world to download the warez version,

    I don't see how this forces the rest of the world to download the illegal version...you don't have a "right" to the movie or a "right" to watch it. You aren't being "forced" to illegally download it. No one is holding a gun to your head...if you download it illegally, you've downloaded it illegally. You can't use "the legal download service wasn't available for me so I was forced into a life of crime" excuse..that is just plain ridiculous. Stop whining and get on with life.

  6. Re:Whats wrong with my money? by cornjones · · Score: 5, Informative

    They aren't streaming. The site is way sparse on details but from what I can see, you download their "Movielink Manager". The MM handles your movie downloads (resumes, etc). You download the full movie in whatever format they send it in and you have 3 days to watch it. Once you start it you have 24 hours to watch it as many times as you like. I don't know the quality but it will be much better than streaming.

    The MM also "convieniently" removes movies files when your rental expires.

  7. Re:Audience Not Limited by krb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your math is wrong because you're not factoring in overlap... by which i mean, users who fall into more than one category. These characteristics you list are not strictly independent. I'd guess that damn near everyone still running win95 lacks broadband, for example, so if you've already limited your market to "broadband subscribers" you probly don't have to care about too many people with win95.

    I won't bother getting into the discussion of whether your numbers are accurate, but if we assume they are, i'd figure that the best guess for the actual market is much closer to being exactly the same as the percentage of users with broadband, due to overlap. In your estimation, that's 20%, which is still a fairly decent chunk of the user base, assuming they're able to effectively advertise to that demographic. I don't think they will, mind you, but it's still a potentially lucrative market.

    -k

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  8. I guess they don't Like me by BroadbandBradley · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thank you for your interest in Movielink. We want you to take part in the powerful Internet movie rental experience that Movielink delivers; however, you currently do not meet our minimum system requirements. You will need to adjust the following:

    *

    You Need Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP

  9. Netflix spams - avoid them by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Informative

    Netflix advertises via spam - as such I would avoid doing business with them.

    Google'd evidence

  10. Netflix by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a Netflix subscription and LOVE it.

    I'd say they have an excellent selection of non-mainstream films. Last year I shared the account with my apartmentmate Kate. She definately had non-mainstream taste in movies. I don't think there was a single movie she wanted that she couldn't find on NF.

    Cheaper than this new service and higher-quality too. Also more flexible and available to those who don't have broadband.

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  11. 30 days: by kikta · · Score: 3, Informative

    "You have a rental period of 30 days to play the movie. Once started, watch the movie as many times as you'd like within 24-hours."

    Also, it looks like it is offered in Real or Windows Media Player formats.

  12. MovieLink features by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    It requires extensive proprietary software:
    • You need Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP.
      You need Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher>
      You need RealPlayer 8.0 or higher or Windows Media Player 7.1 or higher.
      You need a Connection Speed of 128 kbps or higher. Scripting must be enabled.
      Cookies must be enabled.
    There's spyware.
    • a. Downloads. You acknowledge that Movielink and/or its authorized third party providers and affiliates may issue upgraded versions of the Services and Movielink Manager Software required to be downloaded by you from time to time, and may automatically electronically upgrade the version of the Movielink Manager Software that you are using on your computer. You consent to such automatic upgrading, and agree that these Terms of Use (as amended from time to time) along with the Software License Agreement and any amendments thereto will govern all such upgraded versions.

      b. Modification of Services. Movielink reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to update, change, modify, add or remove any portion of the Services or these Terms of Use, in whole or in part, at any time. Changes to these Terms of Use will be effective when posted. You agree to review these Terms of Use periodically to be aware of any changes. By continuing to use the Services after any changes, you agree to be bound by subsequent revisions to these Terms of Use.

    There's an arbitration clause like the one just struck down by the courts regarding PayPal.
    • g. Arbitration. Any and all claims, grievances, demands, controversies causes of action or disputes of any nature whatsoever (including but not limited to tort and contract claims, and claims upon any law, statute, order or regulation) (hereinafter "Claims"), arising out of, in connection with, or relating to (i) the interpretation, performance or breach of this Agreement, or (ii) the arbitrability of any Claims under this Agreement shall be resolved by final and binding arbitration before a single arbitrator, on an individual basis. Such arbitration shall be administered in Los Angeles, California by the AAA in accordance with its then-existing Commercial Arbitration Rules. Except as provided herein, the Federal Arbitration Act, 9 U.S.C. 1, et seq., shall govern all proceedings hereunder. The arbitrator's award may be enforced in any court of competent jurisdiction and shall include costs and may include reasonable attorneys' fees to the prevailing party, and judgment upon the award may be entered in any court having jurisdiction thereof. YOU EXPRESSLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BY ACCEPTING THESE TERMS OF USE, YOU ARE GIVING UP YOUR RIGHT TO A COURT OR JURY TRIAL.