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Congress Passes SWSA

signer writes "Congress has passed the Small Webcaster Settlement Act (House of Representatives link). Webcasters have until December 15th to negotiate Percentage-of-Revenue royalty payments, and they have the option of changing their status to non-profit and gaining a delay until June 30, 2003 to pay owed royalties from previous years. RAIN (www.kurthanson.com) has details."

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  1. The Real Question is? by 1stflight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IS this settlement good or bad for the webcasters? Personally I'm of the mind that radio by defination is free promotion, the webcasters should be charging for it.

    1. Re:The Real Question is? by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, not all that great.

      For one thing, the RIAA's slice of the pie still comes from *gross* revenue, meaning that stations operating with only a tiny profit margin will get very very screwed.

      Another poster already mentioned the $500 minimum, but that I see as less of a problem, only affecting the smallest of webcasters. The percentage of the gross take, on the other hand, doesn't go away regardless of scale.

      I have to admit I don't quite get the part about non-profit webcasting (the text of the bill HEAVILY references its predecessor, making it read almost exactly like a diff file). It sounds like they just have more time to decide to fold, but don't actually get significantly better terms. But don't quote me on that one.

    2. Re:The Real Question is? by mumblestheclown · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "free promotion."

      That's up for negotiations to decide, isn't it? One side POTENTIALLY benefits from "free promotion", the other from having some filler between advertisements (or some other benefit).

      Making things interesting is that in the marketplace of music, webcasters can always go to alternative music sources if they can't come to what they think is an equitable agreement with their first choice rightsholders--be that agreement the rightsholders get paid, pay, or whatever.

      in life, you get what you negotiate.

    3. Re:The Real Question is? by FreeUser · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's up for negotiations to decide, isn't it? One side POTENTIALLY benefits from "free promotion", the other from having some filler between advertisements (or some other benefit).

      Well, that is the theory. But that assumes both sides come to the table more or less as equals.

      In reality, the media cartels have a vertical monopoly on content from the artist's gitarre strings to the listener's earphone, whether that path passes through the radio or television spectrum as a traditional broadcast, or through the retail chain as a shiny 6" disc.

      The relationship is more complex than this (the cartels are currently crying foul over radio payola ... not because of the payola, which gives them almost complete control over what we hear on the radio, but because of the prices they are currently having to pay. They are asking the government to step in and slap the otherside down, so they can maintain their control, but at bargain basement prices instead), but overall they enjoy a vertical monopoly they are loathe to give up.

      mp3.com represented a threat to this, before the cartels coopted them into the regime. Web broadcasters represent a threat to this, as do p2p filesharing networks. Their concern isn't that their content is being played (indeed, they pay for exactly that privelege on traditional radio), their concern is that their content isn't the only thing being played and, worse, they have no way to control that.

      Except, of course, to tell a webcaster to "play our play list or pay (exhorbitant) retail to broadcast our music", using their current market dominance to relegate those who say no to a tertiary status, and likely costing them the early listenership they need to stay in business.

      Its not that they don't want webcasting, or that they expect to make a lot of money licensing webcasters. Its that they only want THEIR webcasters online, and no one with such a cartel/monopoly mindset will ever negotiate with a party such as the webcasters in good faith.

      So, until copyright is reformed to no longer grant government entitlement monopolies, there will be no free market in which such negotiations can take place, indeed, no free market whatsoever, so one cannot reasonably expect acceptable results to arise from applying free market assumptions to what is essentially a planned and very precissely regulated market.

      --
      The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
  2. There's nothing wrong with this bill by SexyKellyOsbourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honestly, how would you feel if something you put hours, days, and even weeks of effort, heart, and soul was being played FOR-PROFIT by a pay radio station by someone without your permission?

    Whether non-profit p2p and netradio is stealing or not can be debated -- but when someone takes an artist's hard work and plays it over the internet with the sole purpose of making money, it is blatant thievery of intellectual property and disrespect of copyright, which does have a right to exist to spur innovation in an economy that is, was, and shall be capitalist.

  3. Non profit status = by Crusty+Oldman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Non profit status = special license = jurisdiction = control

  4. There seem to be TWO possible outcomes. by JessLeah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) Web radio dies, or goes "underground" and just becomes a lot less popular, and a lot more scary to be involved in. (due to the new-found illegality thanks to this bill)

    2) Web radio stations start playing works by independent (non-RIAA-affiliated) artists en masse-- thereby avoiding having to pay the RIAA a red cent.

    Actually, there's a third that is somewhere in between: 3) Web radio stations start playing only "mixed" versions of RIAA tunes, claiming that by producing a "modified, derivative work" it is legal. Then this gets hashed out in court, or worse in Congress...

    As I see it, though, (1) is by far the most likely. Lots of the SlashDot types might be interested in indie music... but remember, lots of the listeners of these online stations are/were regular Joe-Blows. They want to hear Queen and Sting and Madonna and Eminem and Snoop Dawg, not (insert obscure indie band name here).

    Le sigh... But if outcome #2 was the case... that would be very nice.. and might even spark a nationwide change in buying habits (i.e. people would start buying more indie music, leaving the RIAA bit by little bit... of course, this would only affect the mostly young and relatively Internet-literate (not necessarily computer-literate, but they're familiar with the Net and much of its underlying tech) folks who use Web streaming...)

  5. Sade by dolo666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not normally a Sade fan, and I remember holding some disdain for her music in years past (80's). But after hearing some of her recent stuff (downloaded via Gnucleus), I bought her album and went to her concert with my wife.

    Exposure sells and it's the RIAA who are scared because maybe we don't want to buy the crap they are carpet bagging... maybe we will hold out for something better. They don't trust themselves.

    One hit wonders shouldn't sell any records because the rest of their albums suck. While good musicians and artists who sweat blood to make amazing albums are still left behind. If the internet could do anything, I think it would even things out so real musicians would make the money they deserve and fluff bands get downloaded for the song that's good and passed over for concerts and cds.

    Good music will always sell.