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Congress Passes SWSA

signer writes "Congress has passed the Small Webcaster Settlement Act (House of Representatives link). Webcasters have until December 15th to negotiate Percentage-of-Revenue royalty payments, and they have the option of changing their status to non-profit and gaining a delay until June 30, 2003 to pay owed royalties from previous years. RAIN (www.kurthanson.com) has details."

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  1. The Real Question is? by 1stflight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IS this settlement good or bad for the webcasters? Personally I'm of the mind that radio by defination is free promotion, the webcasters should be charging for it.

    1. Re:The Real Question is? by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, not all that great.

      For one thing, the RIAA's slice of the pie still comes from *gross* revenue, meaning that stations operating with only a tiny profit margin will get very very screwed.

      Another poster already mentioned the $500 minimum, but that I see as less of a problem, only affecting the smallest of webcasters. The percentage of the gross take, on the other hand, doesn't go away regardless of scale.

      I have to admit I don't quite get the part about non-profit webcasting (the text of the bill HEAVILY references its predecessor, making it read almost exactly like a diff file). It sounds like they just have more time to decide to fold, but don't actually get significantly better terms. But don't quote me on that one.

    2. Re:The Real Question is? by mumblestheclown · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "free promotion."

      That's up for negotiations to decide, isn't it? One side POTENTIALLY benefits from "free promotion", the other from having some filler between advertisements (or some other benefit).

      Making things interesting is that in the marketplace of music, webcasters can always go to alternative music sources if they can't come to what they think is an equitable agreement with their first choice rightsholders--be that agreement the rightsholders get paid, pay, or whatever.

      in life, you get what you negotiate.

    3. Re:The Real Question is? by Camulus · · Score: 3, Informative

      SomaFM has a pretty good over view of what it means to them. The answer is we will see (since the negotiations haven't started yet). I really hope they make it back on the air. I want my SomaFM.

    4. Re:The Real Question is? by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >>Personally I'm of the mind that radio by defination is free promotion, the webcasters should be charging for it.

      >That's a great idea! I'm going to take one of the new BMW 7-series cars without the dealers permission, drive it around town everyday promoting it and then send BMW a bill for the favor I'm doing them by promoting their cars.


      Some unknown person driving one car around is completely different than broadcasting a song to hundreds, or thousands of people who likely have the means to buy the album. Also, you've taken and consumed physical capital (the wear and tear on the car) whereas the radio station do not expend any of the music company's physical capital.

      Go ahead, try to make a convincing argument of a recent musician who was mainstream super-successful WITHOUT the help of radio or internet broadcasts (besides Phish or Grateful Dead, who aren't mainstream anyway). Music companies know the power of promoting songs on the radio, and would gladly pay off DJ's to give their songs more airtime, but it's illegal to do so in such a direct manner. Top level 'you-scratch-my-back-I'll-scratch-yours' deals drive radio play these days.

    5. Re:The Real Question is? by FreeUser · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's up for negotiations to decide, isn't it? One side POTENTIALLY benefits from "free promotion", the other from having some filler between advertisements (or some other benefit).

      Well, that is the theory. But that assumes both sides come to the table more or less as equals.

      In reality, the media cartels have a vertical monopoly on content from the artist's gitarre strings to the listener's earphone, whether that path passes through the radio or television spectrum as a traditional broadcast, or through the retail chain as a shiny 6" disc.

      The relationship is more complex than this (the cartels are currently crying foul over radio payola ... not because of the payola, which gives them almost complete control over what we hear on the radio, but because of the prices they are currently having to pay. They are asking the government to step in and slap the otherside down, so they can maintain their control, but at bargain basement prices instead), but overall they enjoy a vertical monopoly they are loathe to give up.

      mp3.com represented a threat to this, before the cartels coopted them into the regime. Web broadcasters represent a threat to this, as do p2p filesharing networks. Their concern isn't that their content is being played (indeed, they pay for exactly that privelege on traditional radio), their concern is that their content isn't the only thing being played and, worse, they have no way to control that.

      Except, of course, to tell a webcaster to "play our play list or pay (exhorbitant) retail to broadcast our music", using their current market dominance to relegate those who say no to a tertiary status, and likely costing them the early listenership they need to stay in business.

      Its not that they don't want webcasting, or that they expect to make a lot of money licensing webcasters. Its that they only want THEIR webcasters online, and no one with such a cartel/monopoly mindset will ever negotiate with a party such as the webcasters in good faith.

      So, until copyright is reformed to no longer grant government entitlement monopolies, there will be no free market in which such negotiations can take place, indeed, no free market whatsoever, so one cannot reasonably expect acceptable results to arise from applying free market assumptions to what is essentially a planned and very precissely regulated market.

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  2. after they pay these royalties... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    they'll all be non-profit.

  3. Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is the text in case RAIN can't shine:

    In a stunning victory for webcasting, both the Senate and the House of Representatives unanimously passed aImage: Bill text revised version of H.R. 5469 late last night that clears the way for copyright owners to offer webcasters a percentage-of-revenues royalty rate, essentially allowing the parties to mutually agree to override the CARP decision of last spring.

    The Senate passed the bill at 10:32PM ET and the House passed it at 2:44AM. It now goes to President Bush for his signature.

    The bill was actively supported by virtually all players on both sides of the debate this year, including the Photo: Sen. Jesse Helmsrecord industry, artist representatives, large webcasters, small webcasters, college radio representatives, and religious broadcasters.

    In what was viewed as a surprise by some observers, the legislative staff in the office of retiring Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC) (pictured) apparently played an active and valuable role in crafting what the parties concluded was a much better piece of legislation than the one Helms blocked at the last moment late last month (here).

    Rates and terms removed from legislation
    The key difference between the bill that the House passed in October and the revised bill, renamed the "Small Webcaster Settlement Act of 2002," is that Congress did not establish any definition of "small webcaster" or set any royalty rates in the final version of the legislation.

    Rather, the bill grants both sides the right to enter into a voluntary agreement "without fear of liability for deviating from the fees andLink: SoundExchange terms of the July 8 order" (i.e., the Librarian of Congress's modified CARP decision).

    Specifically, the bill does so by permitting the receiving agent of royalty payments (i.e., SoundExchange) to negotiate on behalf of all copyright owners, whether they are members of SoundExchange or not, for the period beginning October 28, 1998 (i.e., the passage of the DMCA) and ending December 31, 2004.

    Under the new mechanism established by this act, the voluntary agreement envisioned would be submitted to the Copyright Office, published in the Federal Register, and subsequently made available to all qualifying webcasters.

    However, the bill grants the receiving agent that authority to make a settlement with the small commercial webcasters only until December 15th -- so the clock is ticking for both sides to "paper the deal." (CONTINUED)
    RAIN Vendor Guide Ver.3.0 Special issue coming soon: Most indicators seem to be pointing (finally!) toward a more-successful 2003 for both broadcasters and webcasters. To help you in your planning process for next year, RAIN's upcoming "Planning for 2003" issue will showcase products and services that will help you reduce your expenses and increase your revenues in 2003!
    Link: ABC Radio Networks
    Link to Backbone
    Link to: Bean Bag Entertainment Link to BRS Media Inc. Link: Compuone.net Link: DiMA
    Link to DotFM Link: Hiwire Link to IM Networks Link: Interep Link to Interep Interactive
    Link: International Webcasting Association Link to Measurecast Link to The Media Audit Link to Radio Web Stuff Link to Sabo Media
    Link: Stream Madness Link to Surfer Network
    For YOUR firm to be included, call RAIN at 1-312-527-3869 or e-mail kurt@kurthanson.com

    (CONTINUED FROM ABOVE)
    Royalty payments from noncomms
    suspended until next June
    The version of the bill passed last night also suspends ALL royalty payments due from noncommercial webcasters until June 30, 2003, giving both sides time to work out a new voluntary royalty structure.

    Furthermore, the bill adds a new definition of "noncommercial" that permits webcasters who are currently for-profit entities to file for nonprofit status and take advantage of this option as long as they have a "commercially reasonable expectation that such exemption shall be granted."

    This provision seems to permit any "hobbyist" webcaster to make a choice of whether they would like to be a for-profit business or a nonprofit. The bill gives the parties involved until May 31, 2003 to negotiate their voluntary license.

    Stronger non-precedential language added
    The bill contains new and very strong language intended to prevent the deal negotiated in Sensenbrenner's office from being used as precedent in future CARPs.

    One example: "It is the intent of Congress that any royalty rates, rate structure, definitions, terms, conditions, or notice and recordkeeping requirements, included in such agreements shall be considered as a compromise motivated by the unique business, economic and political circumstances of small Photo: Capitol buildingwebcasters, copyright owners, and performers rather than as matters that would have been negotiated in the marketplace between a willing buyer and a willing seller."

    Another example: "Nothing in the Small Webcaster Settlement Act of 2002...shall be taken into account by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in its review of the determination by the Librarian of Congress of July 18, 2002, of rates and terms for the digital performance of sound recordings and ephemeral recordings."

    Such language apparently satisfied the concerns of terrestrial broadcasters (e.g., the NAB and the National Religious Broadcasters) about the early version of the bill.

    ...
    RAIN Analysis

    ...
    Victory!
    An amazing combination of influences has come together to craft a solution that should Photo: Kurt Hansonallow webcasting to move forward to a healthier 2003 and beyond, with benefits for copyright holders, webcasters, and consumers alike.

    This is NOT a victory of webcasters over record labels (or, for that matter, vice versa). It is a victory for common sense, as all parties involved will benefit from a healthy webcasting space.

    The record industry has apparently come to realize that webcasting should not be lumped in with CD burning and file sharing as one of their enemies, but rather that the new medium has the potential to offer real benefits for them if everyone quits acting as if they're adversaries.

    And everyone else seemed to work together as well: Broadcasters did not flex their political might in Washington to try to quash this bill (and thus kill a potential new set of competitors), and Internet-only webcasters didn't use the negotiations to try to get themselves a leg up over broadcasters.

    And record labels and recording artists -- the two factions that share in royalty payments -- used the bill to clarify the functioning of SoundExchange in a manner that had benefits for both sides.

    Congress paid attention!
    Finally, it's amazing to me that such a bill was able to get the attention of Congress -- and unanimous passage! -- during a lame duck session designed to focus on critical "homeland security" issues.

    I'd like to think that last May's "Day of Silence" and the resulting press coverage (and support from listeners) played at least some small role in making this an issue that Senators and Congressmen were willing to pay attention to.

    Now we can move forward
    And now, let's see if copyright holders and webcasters can't execute those envisioned voluntary licenses and then start working together to, among other things, help break new artists, promote genres of music that have not gotten their fair share of terrestrial radio airplay in the past, and help sell records! - KH
    ...

    Look for more details on this bill and industry reaction later today in RAIN.

  4. comments from somafm by pengwen2002 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The folks at somafm have some interresting links and comments too.

  5. There's nothing wrong with this bill by SexyKellyOsbourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honestly, how would you feel if something you put hours, days, and even weeks of effort, heart, and soul was being played FOR-PROFIT by a pay radio station by someone without your permission?

    Whether non-profit p2p and netradio is stealing or not can be debated -- but when someone takes an artist's hard work and plays it over the internet with the sole purpose of making money, it is blatant thievery of intellectual property and disrespect of copyright, which does have a right to exist to spur innovation in an economy that is, was, and shall be capitalist.

    1. Re:There's nothing wrong with this bill by skajake · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How would i feel? Pretty darn good if i was the artist. Probably pretty good if i was the record label too. I mean, hey where else can you get free promotion? You think the artist will get a red cent of those webcast royalties?

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    2. Re:There's nothing wrong with this bill by pla · · Score: 5, Informative

      Umm... Have you looked at the business model of a conventional broadcast radio station, lately?

      They do *exactly* what you say seems so "wrong" for webcasters.

      And, to add insult to injury, the RIAA actually *PAYS* "normal" radio stations to play that copyrighted music.

  6. The pigs are flying. by DaveOf9thKey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've lived in North Carolina for more than 20 years, and this may be not only the first time Jesse Helms and I agreed on something, but the first time I wanted to stand up and applaud him for following through on it.

    Clearly, the apocalypse is coming. Someone tell the FBI...

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  7. Non profit status = by Crusty+Oldman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Non profit status = special license = jurisdiction = control

  8. Just listen to webradio from other countries then by hazzzard · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, I don't really care where the music comes from.
    Even if you don't understand the foreign languages,
    there are tons of webradios elsewhere
    that will not suffer from these problems
    (i.e. don't have to do massive advertisements to afford casting good music). Does anybody have some links to good webradios in Italy, spain, mexico etc.?? Please post!
  9. well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like most slashdotters, I have a busy, active lifestyle. And when I read about these new political events, I need to know up front: should I be please that the little guy is finally getting a break, or should I be pissed off that the MegaCorps(tm) are gorging themselves with another piece of the public pie?

    Frankly, I can't tell by reading this summary. I'm forced to read the article and background information to form an opinion of my own, rather than sharing in the poster's rage (or satisfaction) at this travesty of justice (or victory for freedom)..whatever it is.

    Please slashdot...let me know what I should think.. maybe an icon next to the story?

  10. How does this effect College radio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've googled myself to death in recent weeks looking for non legal-speak about how non-profit, free-format college radio will be effected by all this stuff. Now that the revised legislation is passed, what gives?

    A lot of alumni from my alma mater were upset when our radio station stopped webcasting. That was a MAJOR connection for us. Where will students/administration go to get answers? Will it be affordable (less than 4 digits)?

    -Foo

  11. I've always wondered by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I fully understand having to pay royalties for playing music that is copyrighted, but I am wondering if I play music that the owner of the music licenses me to play do I still have to pay RIAA? Maybe one of the legal eagles out there can answer this for me.

    Thanks,

  12. washingtonpost.com story has details by rhwalker22 · · Score: 5, Informative

    washingtonpost.com's story quotes several small webcasters praising the compromise bill. According to the article, the bill "does not establish specific royalty rates for webcasters. Instead, it authorizes the music industry's principal royalty collector, SoundExchange, to negotiate binding royalty contracts with small webcasters on behalf of all artists and record labels." Strange footnote: Sen. Jesse Helms had a big stake in the bill as he successfully protected small religious webcasters from the royalty axe.

  13. I'm Done by m1a1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't don't know about the rest of you, but personally, I am done buying CD's. Honestly. I have put off making this decision for a long time, but honestly, it's long overdue. For me, this is the straw that broke the camel's back. I can only hope a lot of other people feel the same way.

    The sad thing for the RIAA is, that I really used to buy quite a lot of cds. By the time graduated high school I had nearly 100, and this mostly bought out of my own cash. Even as a poor colloege student I always buy my favorite bands cd's, but not anymore. Sad really, looks like I'll never own that new Pearl Jam. Oh well, I'll support the band by continuing to go see concerts and buying t-shirts and posters. The RIAA will never see another dime of my hard earned money.

  14. There seem to be TWO possible outcomes. by JessLeah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) Web radio dies, or goes "underground" and just becomes a lot less popular, and a lot more scary to be involved in. (due to the new-found illegality thanks to this bill)

    2) Web radio stations start playing works by independent (non-RIAA-affiliated) artists en masse-- thereby avoiding having to pay the RIAA a red cent.

    Actually, there's a third that is somewhere in between: 3) Web radio stations start playing only "mixed" versions of RIAA tunes, claiming that by producing a "modified, derivative work" it is legal. Then this gets hashed out in court, or worse in Congress...

    As I see it, though, (1) is by far the most likely. Lots of the SlashDot types might be interested in indie music... but remember, lots of the listeners of these online stations are/were regular Joe-Blows. They want to hear Queen and Sting and Madonna and Eminem and Snoop Dawg, not (insert obscure indie band name here).

    Le sigh... But if outcome #2 was the case... that would be very nice.. and might even spark a nationwide change in buying habits (i.e. people would start buying more indie music, leaving the RIAA bit by little bit... of course, this would only affect the mostly young and relatively Internet-literate (not necessarily computer-literate, but they're familiar with the Net and much of its underlying tech) folks who use Web streaming...)

  15. Re:Percentage-of-Revenue royalty payments? by mumblestheclown · · Score: 4, Funny

    Probably not percentage of revenue, but were you to use Led Zepplin's "The Lemon Song" playing on a jukebox as part of your stand's self-promotion, it would probably be wise to come to a flat-fee licencing agreement with the rightsholders in order to protect yourself. This is not meant to be funny. Don't mod it +1 Funny. Don't!

  16. What about classical stations? by JessLeah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What happens to classical stations now?

    The music companies might put out an argument "Well, since we sell Beethoven and Bach CDs, you owe us", but realistically, what do you guys think will happen to those who only play music too old to be copyrighted (at least, until Congress ups the copyright time limits retroactively again ;) )? Like Beethoven, Bach, Brahms and other artists whose name doesn't begin with B?

    1. Re:What about classical stations? by Frobnicator · · Score: 4, Informative
      what happens to classical stations now?
      I assume you are talking about the time, and not the style? Nothing changes for those people.

      The music itself is in the public domain.

      The PERFORMANCES are owned by someone. If you have 1845 recording from the London Symphony Orchestra, that's in the public domain. If you have a 2001 perfomance of the same work by the same Orchestra, then you need to work out the rights.

      frob.

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  17. Sade by dolo666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not normally a Sade fan, and I remember holding some disdain for her music in years past (80's). But after hearing some of her recent stuff (downloaded via Gnucleus), I bought her album and went to her concert with my wife.

    Exposure sells and it's the RIAA who are scared because maybe we don't want to buy the crap they are carpet bagging... maybe we will hold out for something better. They don't trust themselves.

    One hit wonders shouldn't sell any records because the rest of their albums suck. While good musicians and artists who sweat blood to make amazing albums are still left behind. If the internet could do anything, I think it would even things out so real musicians would make the money they deserve and fluff bands get downloaded for the song that's good and passed over for concerts and cds.

    Good music will always sell.

    1. Re:Sade by dolo666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why? Retribution. ... and that is exactly why they say you sell your soul to the Devil when you sign a record contract!

      It's a tough business, and an unethical one. I think anyone with an ounce of courage or a dash of gumption would avoid record contracts like they were the plague. Even after you tour your guts out and dance until you can't dance anymore, and sign autographs until you're blue: you give up your life, your privacy, your whole time and any possible control you could have over your destiny as a human being, let alone an artist. This process strips the artist of any soul they might have and leaves them breathless and broke, wondering what happened.

  18. Re:Annual minimum royalty by Liquor · · Score: 5, Informative
    There is an annual minimum royalty of $500, which means that the smallest of small webcasters may not be able to afford it.
    Umm... I think it's even worse than that.

    I'm no expert at translating from legalese, but it sure seems that $500 is for past revenues, in 1998 - and there's a $2000 per year minimum after that, i.e. $6K for 1999, 2000, and 2001, and then another $2K minimum for 2002. And that's just to settle PAST broadcasts. So there's a minimum outlay of about $8500 for ANY webcaster that's been around for those years.

    Even if a webcaster is non-profit, with no income, they want 5% of expenses - still subject to the minimums.

    Oh, and you're a small webcaster until you make more than a $1.25 Million?
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  19. Re:Annual minimum royalty by BrookHarty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is an annual minimum royalty of $500, which means that the smallest of small webcasters may not be able to afford it.

    Put up paypal, 50 bux a month and your covered. Of course better switch to peercast so your bandwidth doesnt run up your expenses (which they can charge 7% if expenses are larger)

    BTW, people over at Nectarine have been able to get enough donations to pay for bandwidth. They are even testing OGG streaming (less bandwidth than mp3s)

  20. What the hell? by JanusFury · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why on earth do non-profit stations have to pay royalties? What the hell's up with that? I mean, come on. Isn't the idea of being non-profit that you won't have to pay excessive fees because you're not making any money? How do they expect non-profit webcasts to pay excessive fees just to broadcast songs to all twenty of their listeners? It's not like there's big money in webcasting...

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  21. unhappy by nege · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That silence you just heard was the sound of 20,000 smalltime webcasters going offline.

  22. RIAA Sues Radio Stations For Giving Away FreeMusic by Omega · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too bad The Onion took down this article, I think it explains the hypocrisy pretty well. At least Google still has the cache: RIAA Sues Radio Stations For Giving Away Free Music

  23. Clear-channel by Triv · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is slightly OT, but I realised something disturbing a few hours ago and it does relate to the radio/webcasting debate in a roundabout way.

    I've got a friend coming into New York tonight, so I figured I'd check out a few local venues to see who's playing, what's going on and all that. One of my favorite music venues is Irving Plaza. (flash site) I like going to random shows, I like supporting local music and I like circumventing the RIAA as much as is possible.

    Chck out the link above - see what's in the lower left-hand corner of the homepage under the Irving Plaza logo? "Clear Channel Entertainment."

    Fuck.

    I. Can't. Get. Away. :(

    Triv

  24. Re:It is time for dissidents to unite! by Kintanon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wait, are you saying that Memo I got from falwell wasn't real?! Shit! Quick! Help me hide the bodies!

    Kintanon

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  25. congress - bah! by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    so forgive me for being naive about this but it would seem to me that congress should not be able to mandate the prices for a service. I dont understand how congress can actually set the amounts that should be paid by webcasters.

    Take insurance for example - they can make it a law that you must actually carry insurance - but they cant make a law telling me how much i have to pay for it (although they should regulate the prices due to the fact that we are forced to carry a product sold by a private company)

    Just because they *can* pass crap like this doesn *not* make it right.

    This country is so ass-backwards these days I am amazed at the things that congress get away with without any repremands.

  26. Read the law: GROSS REVENUE ONLY. by Frobnicator · · Score: 3, Informative
    If you only have 20 listerners, you don't have revenue.

    The law clearly states:

    the royalty rate shall be 8 percent of the webcaster's gross revenues during such period, or 5 percent of the webcaster's expenses during such period, whichever is greater, except that an eligible small webcaster that is a natural person shall exclude from expenses those expenses not incurred in connection with the operation of a service that makes eligible nonsubscription transmissions, and an eligible small webcaster that is a natural person shall exclude from gross revenues his or her income during such period

    It says GROSS REVENUES, not anything about broadcasts or listeners.

    This means that if you only have 20 listeners, you probably aren't making any revenue. If you are a small-time band broadcasting for yourself, you can make it so you make no revenue on the broadcasts. (make revenue on sales of the songs, not the broadcastings).

    The second part says if you don't spend any money other than your regular web hookups (like your DSL, cable, T1, etc.) then you don't have to pay based on expenses.

    The final part is just a protection that personal income isn't part of the broadcasting.

    That's why (almost) everyone likes it. RIAA doesn't mind because they can get you for copyright if you broadcast their songs. Small webcasters don't mind IF they make no revenue. The only people who need to worry are:

    1. The people who make revenue from ads. So the obvious solution there is: NO MORE ADS, (use a donation drive or something) meaning no more revenue, meaning no more fees.
    2. The people who have large expenses for broadcasts, like college and university radio. But they probably aren't paying much for equipment, so 5 percent isn't really too big of a charge.

    Some people's children...

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