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ekr writes "The OpenSSL remote buffer overflows discovered at the end of July got a lot of press here on /. But how many people actually fixed their machines? I decided to study this question, and the results are kind of depressing. Two weeks after the release of the bug, over two thirds of the servers I sampled were still vulnerable. Even two weeks after the Slapper worm was announced, a third of the total servers were vulnerable. The paper can be found here in PDF or Postscript."

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  1. It's not just laziness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many systems administrators aren't full-time and have other responsibilities. Keeping up-to-date with every security patch is very time consuming and sometimes management doesn't understand this and doesn't allocate resources for it as long as things are "working".

    1. Re:It's not just laziness... by dfn5 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Unfortunately keeping up with patches is a very important part of any security strategy. I am all for letting companies do things their way, but if admins don't allocate more time to security and patching then I'm afraid the government will do more than just recommend actions for Security on the Internet and will start mandating stuff. I for one don't want that to happen.

      Bottom line? Improve your security while you still have the rights to do it yourself.

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  2. Have we grown complacent? by mao+che+minh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps Linux users and administators have grown overly comfortable due to the long reign of tight security and lack of virii? Until rather recently, disclosed security advisories for FOSS could be neglected for substantial periods of time without worry. The world's hackers mostly took aim at easily exploitable IIS and Exchange servers, flimsy Win32 email clients, and major routers (like AT&T backbone routers to Asia and such). Largely ignored were the hordes of vulnerable web and mail Linux/BSD servers on campus networks and elsewhere (mostly left vulnerable due to neglect, not inherent OS issues). However, the desire to orchestrate large scale DDoS attacks and an exponential increase in the use of Linux systems has caused many hackers to take interest in conquering new grounds.

    All of these years of rock solid security has made us complacent. We have to remember that, while Linux and OSS may be inherently secure, and Linux's modular design works as a fail safe against complete failure, we are still just as vulnerable if we don't remain vigilant.

    1. Re:Have we grown complacent? by AugstWest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps Linux users and administators have grown overly comfortable due to the long reign of tight security and lack of virii?

      I think this is a complete fallacy. Most default Linux installations, when left alone on a cable/DSL connection, have been hackable for years now. I can remember when I installed RedHat 6.2 on my gateway machine without having time to do the updates, and before midnight that night the box had been hacked.

      I think that a lot of Linux users don't even realize when they've been hacked, either. Even the automated scan-and-exploit tools these days are becoming quite good at getting themselves installed on a system quietly. Unless you watch your logs on a daily basis, you often have no idea what is actually going on with your system.

  3. Weird misconception by dfn5 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I find that other admins patch by necessity. i.e. If something is broke, then patch it. If not leave it alone.

    However, I read a stat somewhere that said that a large majority of security breaches could have been prevented by merely keeping up with patches. Therefore my philosphy is to create a patch schedule. And because I'm on Solaris things like OpenSSL are 3rd party to the OS, therefore I upgrade immediately. I rebuilt my solaris RPMs of OpenSSL that day and had it deployed to all my machines. Other things like GnuPG, IPFilter, OpenSSH, apache, sendmail, etc... they all need to be upgraded ASAP.

    So all you Slashdot readers who posted that you have nothing to do but read Slashdot in that downsizing article, get off your butts and start patching. That should keep you busy full time.

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    1. Re:Weird misconception by mao+che+minh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes. I think that services like the "Red Hat Network" will greatly benefit end users and admins alike in this respect. Having a service that organizes errata (updates) and informs you what the current security threats are, and then shows you what systems you own/administer are vulnerable is very helpful. It gives end users an almost hands-free way of keeping themselves safe (as safe as they can in terms of updates, anyways), and can point out things that admins might have missed. I really like it.

  4. Re:Securing OpenSSL by schulzdogg · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The old standby argument that 'checking the MD5 signatures' will save you has become null & void; ADM replaced the MD5 signatures too. The only reason the trojan was detected was because of the Google cache! This kind of thing probably has most users afraid to move to anything recently released that hasn't been extensively peer reviewed.

    False. From the HLUG website (the group that discovered the trojan):
    Thanks to Antioffline.com for hosting us, and Gentoo's Portage system for catching the trojaned files via checksums.

    Putting MD5 signatures on the same server that the software is available from isn't even close to secure



    This is true though.