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New Resource for Online Comic Artists

gmezero writes "Ten on-line comic artists from strips such as Angst Technology, Lethal Doses, and Polymer-City Chronicles have banded together and launched Rocketbox Comics in an effort to help other comic creators improve their art and to promote the idea of keeping on-line comics free."

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  1. Why Black and White? by Chris_Stankowitz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is there a reason that most online comics are in Black and White? Is it a cost issue? A resource issue? I hope that a site like this will bring better quailty to the acutal art of on-line comics.

    1. Re:Why Black and White? by TI-83 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      probably a time issue. do free daily comics come out of nowhere, no cost to anyone? -- nope. most take a couple hours, perhaps? adding shaded color to a sketched comic is almost like redrawing it completely. even just adding solid colors can be a pain, keeping them consistant, making sense with them, not making comics look super-saturated.
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    2. Re:Why Black and White? by Warin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wow. Since when has colour or lack thereof been an issue that even remotely relates to quality? And you can have amazing art and have total crap for stories. And in my not so humble opinion, a good story is far more important than perfect anatomy.

      Angst Technology is currently one of my favourites. I find that Barry always tells an amusing story, and his characters are well drawn, if perhaps a little funny looking (Who else would have the courage to have a llama as a character?!?)

    3. Re:Why Black and White? by daeley · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I'm going to divide your paragraph into two, because I don't think you meant to say color = quality. At least I hope not. :) If you did, please do an Ansel Adams query on Google immediately.
      Is there a reason that most online comics are in Black and White? Is it a cost issue? A resource issue?

      More than anything, I would said it's a tradition issue. There is a long-standing Sunday-in-color, rest-of-the-week-B&W tradition in newspaper comics.

      While IANACA (...not a comics artist), how complicated color is to add would depend on how they produce the color work initially: manually or digitally. Coloring by hand takes a lot of time. Using a paintbucket in an illustration program doesn't take much at all.
      I hope that a site like this will bring better quailty to the acutal art of on-line comics.

      Same here, or at least brings more exposure to the quality comics out there. Witness PvP's announcement that their real-world books are going to be relaunched under the banner of Image Comics. Go Scott! :)

      Online comics (and I don't mean web versions of print comics) have a long way to go before reaching the same 'credibility' with the non-online world as their traditional counterparts. People like Scott Kurtz are pushing the boundaries for what influence an online comic can have offline. It might take a generation or two of people getting more news online than off for digital comics to reach the same mindshare as, say, a Cathy or Doonesbury.

      Slightly offtopic, I miss Bloom County and Calvin & Hobbes more every day I open the newspaper.
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    4. Re:Why Black and White? by PopeAlien · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can tell you one reason why black and white: file sizes.

      In most cases its not that coloring the strips would be a lot more work, but it can definately add to file sizes, and thereby lead to really slow site responses (especially for dial-up users). No body is going to read your strip if it takes 20 minutes to load up each one. The other option (the one I went for) is to use low color gifs, it all depends on what sort of 'look' you're going for.

      Of course I havent even produced a "weekly" comic for months, so maybe a more productive artist has a better reason.

  2. What online comics really need... by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is cool, but what online comics really need is hosting that doesn't whack them into oblivion with bandwith charges when they get popular. Preferably hosting that doesn't also put restrictions on them or make them charge for access to the archives.

    My favorite online comics are User Friendly, Megatokyo and Circle Weave. At least two of these have a huge audience and equally huge bandwidth usage. For all I know the third one will also now that I gave its URL here on /. Oh well...

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    1. Re:What online comics really need... by arvindn · · Score: 5, Informative
      what online comics really need is hosting that doesn't whack them into oblivion with bandwith charges when they get popular

      Yes, this seems to be one of the major problems for online comics. Here is a tutorial describing how you could reduce bandwidth consumption pngs for comics and several tips for effective use of pngs.
      From the article: Used correctly, PNG can drastically reduce the file size and download time of one's comics.

      There's also a list of comics using png.

  3. top 10? by garcia · · Score: 5, Funny

    When this is the #1 spot on a Top 10 list (the rest are empty), a site needs some help :)

    1. Re:top 10? by showler · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rocketbox has only been open for a couple of days. They've probably gotten more visits in the last hour or so then they've had since the opening. I expect the top 10 will start looking better when more people actually submit some comics to consider.

  4. Noooooo..... by sporty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Noooooo... i used to read those 3 (of the 10) and they have MAJOR flaws.

    Angst technology is a comic that re-uses a few finished comics with new scripts. If you read this comic, you'll notice the only difference between a lot of them are th scripts and not the art. It's as if the artist was too lazy to draw a new comic every other day and instead just erased the words from last time and replaced them.

    Polymercity tried to do the plot thing, like sluggy and its walky!, but is failing since it is drawing it out too much. It's almost a year since that plot began. Its strenght was in the witty one-liners it had goign. It was a Userfriendy style comic strip with a sci-fi twist.

    Lethal doses just was too far and inbetween new drawings.

    It's like the strips which I'd least like to read banded together to become one target for me to avoid. ug

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  5. Holiday Specials? by Quaoar · · Score: 3, Funny

    When can I expect to see flash cartoons of "It's the Great Pumpkin, Tycho Brahe" and "A Slicky Christmas Special"?

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  6. Story and Style by Christianfreak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It depends on the artist. A friend of mine and I do a webcomic he draws in black and white because he has a rough unfinished like kind of style and the comic is supposed to resemble an low budget movie. (thus things don't look 'real').

    On the weekends I draw the directors of 'the movie' and they are in color as they are in the 'real world'.

    Plus black and white does usually produce a smaller image size for those of us who pay for our bandwidth and hosting services but I digress.

  7. more by Jukashi · · Score: 4, Informative

    im surprised no one's mentioned exploding dog or dieselsweeties. great comics with quality shit for sale.

    1. Re:more by rstevens · · Score: 3, Informative
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  8. Contest on another site -- by Christianfreak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On a somewhat related note this really cool site (okay so I'm a bit biased) is trying to promote other good web-comics and its own new community with a web comic contest

    You're welcome to sign up yourself if you like. We get a decent amount of traffic so you could get some exposure (as well as some other things, check it out :) )

  9. Your kind of humor by ez76 · · Score: 3, Funny
  10. Black and white by mao+che+minh · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Two problems:

    1. Knowledge of how to make colored comics, scan them, and still make them look clean.

    2. The ability to efficiently use or lack the of quality graphics arts tools.

    Alot of people out there can make quality sketches. Alot of people out there are very witty and know how to pander to an audience. However, not many people have the resources or the knowledge to make color graphics look good on the web.

  11. Scott McCloud by Murdock037 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're really interested in learning more, a writer/artist by the name of Scott McCloud has probably done more for the medium and getting the message out than anybody else.

    McCloud wrote an incredibly popular, well-written, and informative book a few years back called Understanding Comics, about the underlying principles that make comics as a whole work. He followed it up with Reinventing Comics, which was more about methods of distribution and why he thinks online comics are the future. But interesting reading nonetheless.

    The first was great. I go to an art school, and the kids in the comic art program actually have to read it as a text book for several courses. In my opinion, though, the second book was less successful, and more opinion-based. I probably just don't agree with him on a few points.

    Regardless, his site is worth checking out for those interested in the topic. He's probably online comics' biggest and best-known advocate.

  12. Keeping on-line comics free by marcsiry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds like a good mission statement- I hope they have a plan to back up that goal.

    How do they intend to keep on-line comics free? By subsidizing the cartoonists? By supplying them with enough free stuff that it's worth putting up their comics with them? By posting to Slashdot so they get a zillion banner views? It's unclear to me.

    Comics artists gotta eat, too (and if you've been to a comics convention, you'd see that they gotta eat more than most- I'm talking about me here, too). In the end, there needs to be some correlation between putting content online and money appearing. Just aggregating content and hoping for the coolness to start generating dough sounds a lot like some dot-com business plans.

    In the comics project I'm peripherally involved with, the idea is that the online component serves as a marketing tool for the printed magazine (yes, those are still around- for a while, at least). Additionally, the hope is to sell related products via the web site and recoup some money there- I think that's the main business model for The Joy of Tech.

    If either of those fail, the online (free) stuff will go away. Thus, it's in the interest of people who like the stuff to buy a t-shirt once in a while, or even just donate some cash. Otherwise, the online comic will remain the province of the subsidized hobbyist who quits once they have a family to support.

    I'm not slamming these guys for banding together to promote the art form as a whole- anything anyone does to bolster the sagging comic industry is OK by me. I'm just hoping this is not another "Great idea, we'll put on a show!" concept that will run out of steam once people start wondering where the reward is.

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  13. Web comics worthy of attention by tootingbec · · Score: 3, Informative

    First, a quick disclaimer: I have no personal or financial interest in any of these. I own no stock in Adobe or Wacom. Consarnit, I can't even draw.

    One of the best comics on Modern Tales are Patent Pending, a drama that is drawn by the same guy who does the comedy Goats (which is free). Two other awe-inspiring MT strips are Makeshift Miracle and American Born Chinese, the former for its art and the latter for its psychological insight.

    Three free strips deserving of special mention are Wigu, Achewood, and Scary-Go-Round.

    Note that none of these strips concern teenagers who play video games. Hope that's not too much of a disappointment for anyone.

  14. And some apear to be doing just fine... by Obliterous · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For example, MegaTokyo.

    Hell, you've probably even seen His banner add here on slashdot.

    Piro Recently made the decision to got 100% FT on making His webcomic work, and has a dead tree version coming out this december. It seems to Me that He's doing reasonably well with making a free comic pay for itself, and possibly even put some money in His pocket....

    Not to piss on rocketbox, but Piro's doing good, and I dont see anything but vaporware promises from rocketbox yet...

    Dont get Me wrong, I read some of their comics daily, But this also means that I've been hearing about rocketBox for three months....

  15. Some more good comics by Shade,+The · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's some online comics that might be worth checking out:

    Sluggy - Students, aliens, ghosts, psychotic rabbits, evil kittens. One of the oldest and niftiest comics online.
    User Friendly - Linux, geeks. You get the idea.
    Megatokyo - An online manga following Piro and Largo whilst stranded in Tokyo.
    Schlock Mercenary - Not too good art, but usually a very good and suitably sci-fi-ish plot.
    Clan of the Cats - A modern-day witch cursed to change into a panther. Good artwork.
    RPG World - Great art. A parody of almost any role playing game (the console variety) you'd care to play.
    Ghost Cat - It's a cat! It's a ghost! It's ghost cat!
    Elf Life - Elves, fairies, barbarians, time travel, romance, comedy, and very well drawn as well.
    Exploitation Now! - An anime-ish comic with good art and an interesting, if sporadic, plot.
    Real Life - It's real life. Except it's not. Reasonably funny.
    Penny Arcade - The mother of all gaming comics. Very funny :)
    Sephen - A relative newcomer, but wow! Great pencil-work!
    8-bit Theater - The grandpappy of all sprite comics. I think. It's funny anyway. Go read :)
    Demonology 101 - Fantastic art, fantastic plot! If only it came out more often! Ah well, the world isn't perfect.

    Oh, and I can't really get away without mentioning my brother's sprite comic, Pixelated!. It really isn't bad. No, really! :)

    1. Re:Some more good comics by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 3, Informative

      I should mention Argon Zark here.

      The good news: Charley Parker is a kick-ass artist, they don't look like comics at all- visually stunning.

      The bad news: New comics are downright rare, but he's been at it since 1995, so you can enjoy his accumulated work.