As the Spam Turns

Anonymous writes "The SBL has added Verio's corporate mail servers to its blocklist which protects nearly 100 million mailboxes, because of the number of spam gangs on the Verio network. Verio also provides connectivity to AS26212, a collection of 9 of the most notorious spammers netblocks. AS26212 - the new spambone? - is also connected to he.net and bbnplanet.net."

Comments

Spam to spammers

[razmaspaz]

Do you think the people who send out all this spam get annoyed at all the spam in their mailbox or are they proud of the work they do?

There ought to be a law...

[cperciva]

We really need a law which requires Internet service providers to publicly disclose their terms of service -- that is, publicly disclose what terms of service they actually enforce.

After all, it's really just a consumer protection issue: Verio claims to have an active abuse department, and is thereby misleading people who assume that spammers on Verio's network will be shut down.

Spammers

[Ninja Master Gara]

I've had to shut down two mail accounts because of the enormous volume of spam they get. Enough to make even using spam filters a bandwidth problem on my dial up. They were unfortunate enough to be linked with mailto: on a medium traffic site before the harvesting craze began and within a couple weeks were effectively unusable.

ISPs need to realise that if they're not going to do anything about it, they'll be blocked. This happened to us years ago when the ORDB started, and we fixed the problem immediately. We didn't think they were being nasty to us, we realised we had a problem, and we set about fixing it. When ISPs get globally klined from IRC networks, their customers want to know why, and put pressure on the ISP. They listen and respond.

This is no different. If yer gonna be a spammy host, prepare to be blacklisted. Reponsible, rigid, no nonsense, targetted policies are the only thing that will have ANY effect, and even they won't STOP all spam. But it sure helps.

Re:Hrm, isn't that John Gilmore's ISP?

[billstewart]

Actually, you've hit a major irony, because Verio refuses to continue selling John Gilmore internet access. John was one of the members of The Little Garden internet access co-op (back before ISPs were common), which was businessified, then bought by Best, which was bought by Verio, which was bought by NTT.

But they will sell to spammers.