Intel X-Scale Processor at 400MHz/300MHz, 32-64MB SDRAM Memory, 32-48MB Flash. Looks like it could run Linux quite easily. I've got a similar design just next to me here running it quite happily.
Re:What about...
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Flabby+Boohoo
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It was a summary comment... the link provides the details.
I mean, you found the information after clicking the link, right?
Re:Comparisons please...
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I think the iPAQ runs at 206 mhz (I have one). The only thing I can think of that is a major plus to buying the dell over the iPAQ is the price. The iPAQ is nice, but you really pay out the nose for it, but you also pay out the nose because everyone devlopes for it.
All the iPAQs have very specific standards so that almost any accessory that you get will work on just about every iPAQ (actually I haven't found an accessory yet that only works on a specifc iPAQ, I think some older iPAQs didn't have CF flash). Plus, the iPAQ can run linux:)
The Dell might be able to run Linux at somepoint, but I haven't looked into it as it is really new.
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Available in the UK
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johnburton
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I emailed dell last week to see if, or when these would be available in the UK. I got back a reply saying they'd passed my message on to the appropriate person but other than that no reply for 3 working days now.
They can't want to sell them very much.
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Re:Available in the UK
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Qube
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UK launch is planned in March, according to this week's Computing or IT Week.
Re:Dell's Prices
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Anonymous Coward
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That price is BEFORE the $50 rebate (read the page carefully). So after rebate it is indeed $199.
Re:Dell's Prices
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Dukebytes
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Actually that would be "typical Dell". Their web site sucks for the configs. Well it is nice that you can config it on the web site - but a lot of the times some of the parts are wrong and the price is never right during the config.
Save it to a cart and you'll see the rebates - then call Dell and give the rep the cart number and have him/her send you a quote - its ALWAYS cheaper that way.
Duke
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Re:XScale processor?
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I don't know about the hardware itself, but there is a software reason for XScale not to run as fast as it can on Pocket PCs: Microsoft was too lazy to recompile the OS to optimize it for the new chips.
Well, ok, let's back up a minute. First, the XScale processors can run in ARM emulation mode, and a 400MHz can match, but not really beat, a 206MHz StrongARM chip. Before you bash MS for not "recompiling," let's just remember what things were like when PocketPC's ran either SH3, SH4, MIPS, or ARM processors, and what a pain that was. If you want to go back... everything today is "IBM PC or 100% compatible." Remember 95% compatibility? (I didn't think so). Standardizing on a processor architecture is a GOOD thing... how well would AMD's do if they weren't Intel compatible?
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Read: The h1910 is built on an Intel xScale 200MHz CPU...
$299
Intel® X-ScaleTM Processor at 400MHz
@ $299
Winner = Dell.
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Sharp contrast
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The Dell is nice, but I can't wait to get my hands on a new Zaurus.
I'm lookging to migrate a Palm OS app to a new platform that is handheld and browser based. I had been thinking to go PocketPC and develop towards PocketIE (which is closer to MSIE 3.0 than anything else), until I saw a pre-release of the new Zaurus at a medical technology seminar recently.
Its hardware is very similar to the new Dell, with the exceptional addition of the sliding case with thumb board. Better yet, it comes with a powerful version of the Opera browser.
Of course, it's based on Linux already, so no need to wipe PokeyPC off first. I saw the office-app components (RTF editor, Excel-like thingy) but didn't really get a good look at the overall system. I hope to remedy that shortly.
(FYI - The Zaurus, made by Sharp inspired my title)
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How about some reviews...
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which state that it is because the OS and applications weren't compiled to take advantage of the XScale processors or architecture.
Re:Comparisons please...
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The new iPAQs have the 400 mhz processors, and one model comes with integrated bluetooth. Since all of the pocket PC's come with Microsoft PocketPC 2002 OS installed, they should all run the same software. Some may run it better than others, though. The iPAQ still doesnt have a model that has both a CFII slot and a SD slot (which is why I haven't bought one yet.) Plus, from what I have read, upgrading to the 400mhz model doesn't really increase the speed on the iPAQ as much as it does on other brands pocket pcs.
It will be interesting to see how this one stands up to the $600 models out right now. Two of the things that the iPAQ rules the rest on are the integrated speaker volume/quality, and the brightness of the screen. Plus, the iPAQ generally comes with much more extra software packages than other brands.
Re:Size matters...
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While I dont mine the WINCE OS and the apps etc.. The size of all these things are just too big to carry around. Compared to a totally slim Palm, it's like night and day.
Have you tried out a Toshibe e310 or e730. They're as slim as any Palm (literally), and far more powerful to boot. I have an e310 and it's been a fantastic experience.
Re:Size matters...
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I actually liked the iPaq even with PocketPC 2002- all sorts of things I consider crippling annoyances on Windows (over-dependence on icons and GUI) work very well there, and the familiarity of the interface is a plus. It seemed to run very smoothly, too- must have been a huge leap from CE. The screen was gorgeous on the model I tried, and the machine actually felt reasonably fast. I've never been much impressed with PalmOS handhelds (except for the awesome clamshell Clie models, and they have problems too). But I'd normally rather have my pubic hairs plucked out than use Windows for any length of time, and I loved the iPaq the first time I used it.
However, these things can get out of control in a hurry. My coworkers bought the entire PCMCIA cradle, and at that point it won't fit into any pocket outside of a large winter jacket. Then we threw in my wireless card, and we ended up having this ridiculously obese little gadget with an antenna sticking out that wrung every last bit of life out of the batteries in a few minutes. This was only partially compensated for by the coolness factor of controlling our NT PDC through Windows Terminal Services on the iPaq.
I'd once thought that high-end handhelds needed Microdrives before they became truly useful, but Flash memory is so cheap that a much more fragile hard drive would be superfluous. Still, I'd like to have one of these (or rather the Zaurus, since I'm a Unix programmer) with integrated 802.11, which would enable me to throw in all sorts of other gadgets and/or a shitload of memory and still have full connectivity.
Re:Battery life
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Anonymous Coward
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"It has a removable, rechargeable battery rated at about 8 hours per charge."
Re:XScale processor?
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firewood
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The StrongARM is basically an ARM with silicon fab improvements to make it go faster than the standard ARMs of the time.
I don't think this is correct. The StrongARM wasn't designed by ARM (the company), but designed by the same DEC CPU team that did the original DEC Alpha CPU. The SrongARM also has a different pipeline than does the more common ARM7 and ARM9 implementations of the ARM CPU architecture; so it's definitely not just a shrink. Intel ended up with the StrongARM design (and an IC fab line) in a big patent settlement with DEC.
Re:Battery life
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"The X5 boasts dual expansion slots for SecureDigital/MultiMedia cards and CompactFlash Type II cards. It has a removable, rechargeable battery rated at about 8 hours per charge. The value configuration comes with a synchronization cable. A docking cradle with a battery charging slot for a spare battery is a $40 (street) option and comes standard with the performance configuration."
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Intel X-Scale Processor at 400MHz/300MHz, 32-64MB SDRAM Memory, 32-48MB Flash. Looks like it could run Linux quite easily. I've got a similar design just next to me here running it quite happily.
It was a summary comment... the link provides the details.
I mean, you found the information after clicking the link, right?
All the iPAQs have very specific standards so that almost any accessory that you get will work on just about every iPAQ (actually I haven't found an accessory yet that only works on a specifc iPAQ, I think some older iPAQs didn't have CF flash). Plus, the iPAQ can run linux :)
The Dell might be able to run Linux at somepoint, but I haven't looked into it as it is really new.
Obama = Socialism.
I emailed dell last week to see if, or when these would be available in the UK. I got back a reply saying they'd passed my message on to the appropriate person but other than that no reply for 3 working days now. They can't want to sell them very much.
Sig is taking a break!
That price is BEFORE the $50 rebate (read the page carefully). So after rebate it is indeed $199.
Save it to a cart and you'll see the rebates - then call Dell and give the rep the cart number and have him/her send you a quote - its ALWAYS cheaper that way.
Duke
FreeBSD: Nothing runs like a daemon with a pitch fork.
I don't know about the hardware itself, but there is a software reason for XScale not to run as fast as it can on Pocket PCs: Microsoft was too lazy to recompile the OS to optimize it for the new chips.
Well, ok, let's back up a minute. First, the XScale processors can run in ARM emulation mode, and a 400MHz can match, but not really beat, a 206MHz StrongARM chip. Before you bash MS for not "recompiling," let's just remember what things were like when PocketPC's ran either SH3, SH4, MIPS, or ARM processors, and what a pain that was. If you want to go back... everything today is "IBM PC or 100% compatible." Remember 95% compatibility? (I didn't think so). Standardizing on a processor architecture is a GOOD thing... how well would AMD's do if they weren't Intel compatible?
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Here's a review from CNET.
Read: The h1910 is built on an Intel xScale 200MHz CPU...
$299
Intel® X-ScaleTM Processor at 400MHz
@ $299
Winner = Dell.
There is no spork.
on a new Zaurus.
I'm lookging to migrate a Palm OS app to a new
platform that is handheld and browser based. I had
been thinking to go PocketPC and develop towards
PocketIE (which is closer to MSIE 3.0 than
anything else), until I saw a pre-release of the
new Zaurus at a medical technology seminar
recently.
Its hardware is very similar to the new Dell, with
the exceptional addition of the sliding case with
thumb board. Better yet, it comes with a powerful
version of the Opera browser.
Of course, it's based on Linux already, so no need
to wipe PokeyPC off first. I saw the office-app
components (RTF editor, Excel-like thingy) but
didn't really get a good look at the overall
system. I hope to remedy that shortly.
(FYI - The Zaurus, made by Sharp inspired my title)
-- @rjamestaylor on Ello
here's one
here's another
and another
There have been numerous articles posted about this... here is one from Tom's (yeah, it's Tom's but it was easiest to find...)
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http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/02q4/021107/
which state that it is because the OS and applications weren't compiled to take advantage of the XScale processors or architecture.
The new iPAQs have the 400 mhz processors, and one model comes with integrated bluetooth. Since all of the pocket PC's come with Microsoft PocketPC 2002 OS installed, they should all run the same software. Some may run it better than others, though. The iPAQ still doesnt have a model that has both a CFII slot and a SD slot (which is why I haven't bought one yet.) Plus, from what I have read, upgrading to the 400mhz model doesn't really increase the speed on the iPAQ as much as it does on other brands pocket pcs.
It will be interesting to see how this one stands up to the $600 models out right now. Two of the things that the iPAQ rules the rest on are the integrated speaker volume/quality, and the brightness of the screen. Plus, the iPAQ generally comes with much more extra software packages than other brands.
While I dont mine the WINCE OS and the apps etc .. The size of all these things are just too big to carry around. Compared to a totally slim Palm, it's like night and day.
Have you tried out a Toshibe e310 or e730. They're as slim as any Palm (literally), and far more powerful to boot. I have an e310 and it's been a fantastic experience.
I actually liked the iPaq even with PocketPC 2002- all sorts of things I consider crippling annoyances on Windows (over-dependence on icons and GUI) work very well there, and the familiarity of the interface is a plus. It seemed to run very smoothly, too- must have been a huge leap from CE. The screen was gorgeous on the model I tried, and the machine actually felt reasonably fast. I've never been much impressed with PalmOS handhelds (except for the awesome clamshell Clie models, and they have problems too). But I'd normally rather have my pubic hairs plucked out than use Windows for any length of time, and I loved the iPaq the first time I used it.
However, these things can get out of control in a hurry. My coworkers bought the entire PCMCIA cradle, and at that point it won't fit into any pocket outside of a large winter jacket. Then we threw in my wireless card, and we ended up having this ridiculously obese little gadget with an antenna sticking out that wrung every last bit of life out of the batteries in a few minutes. This was only partially compensated for by the coolness factor of controlling our NT PDC through Windows Terminal Services on the iPaq.
I'd once thought that high-end handhelds needed Microdrives before they became truly useful, but Flash memory is so cheap that a much more fragile hard drive would be superfluous. Still, I'd like to have one of these (or rather the Zaurus, since I'm a Unix programmer) with integrated 802.11, which would enable me to throw in all sorts of other gadgets and/or a shitload of memory and still have full connectivity.
From:8 ,00.asp
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,70054
"It has a removable, rechargeable battery rated at about 8 hours per charge."
I don't think this is correct. The StrongARM wasn't designed by ARM (the company), but designed by the same DEC CPU team that did the original DEC Alpha CPU. The SrongARM also has a different pipeline than does the more common ARM7 and ARM9 implementations of the ARM CPU architecture; so it's definitely not just a shrink. Intel ended up with the StrongARM design (and an IC fab line) in a big patent settlement with DEC.
From a Review at pcmag.com:
"The X5 boasts dual expansion slots for SecureDigital/MultiMedia cards and CompactFlash Type II cards. It has a removable, rechargeable battery rated at about 8 hours per charge. The value configuration comes with a synchronization cable. A docking cradle with a battery charging slot for a spare battery is a $40 (street) option and comes standard with the performance configuration."