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Another Critical Microsoft Hole

gmuslera writes "Not was enough that recent vulnerability in IE that can run any program in an unpatched windows system. Now there is another related to an ActiveX control that can make IE and IIS to run any code in the system. The Microsoft solution? kill the related ActiveX control and replace it with a safe one. The Microsoft problem? As this control is Microsoft signed, any site can require it, upload it and replace the "good" one with the vulnerable one. The final recomendation from Microsoft? Don't trust/run ActiveX controls signed by Microsoft." Gimble points to the appropriate locations on Microsoft's website: "Another buffer overrun (that allows arbitrary code to be run) has been admitted to by MS, and it affects IIS and IE on clients (but not on XP), and they have a patch available here Security Hotfix for Q329414. The kicker is that a patched system can be rendered vulnerable again by a hostile web site or HTML email. The 'solution' from MS in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-065 recommends that you remove MS from the list of Trusted Publishers."

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  1. Aaahhhh! by SledgeHBK · · Score: 4, Funny

    "can make IE and IIS to run any code in the system"

    Noooooo!

    Minesweeper WON'T stop coming up!

    --This girl at the library the other day

    1. Re:Aaahhhh! by andrew_0812 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait a minute. You mean I can't trust Microsoft?

    2. Re:Aaahhhh! by Dinosaur+Neil · · Score: 4, Funny

      That depends. According to their bulletin, you can't trust MS. But the bulletin came from MS, so you can't trust the bulletin. So you can trust MS. Whch means you can't trust them which...

      Ah, the classic "I am lying" paradox...

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      "I'm a scientist! I don't think, I observe!" - Dr. Clayton Forrester
  2. Re:He's right about the fonts by Rebel+Patriot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why doesn't Microsoft wake up and just apply the "mozilla patch"? :^)

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    Slackware forever. Honestly, what else would you trust when it absolutely positively has to be stable, secure, and easy
  3. Sound Advice by stevens · · Score: 3, Funny

    ``Don't trust Microsoft'' is just a good security principle in general. Finally they realize it. :-)

    1. Re:Sound Advice by nougatmachine · · Score: 5, Funny

      I removed Microsoft from my "trusted publishers" list a long time ago ; )

    2. Re:Sound Advice by RyoSaeba · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well yes, but now you run in the horrible paradoxal loop !!
      Suppose MS say that they shouldn't be trusted. Assume you think it's right, so you don't trust'em, so you believe THAT sentence is false ! Therefore MS should be trusted. So of course you must trust'em, and believe they shouldn't trusted... And so on & on !
      Finally their claim is just another way to make your system / brain crash due to stack overflow...

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      Tsuyoikoto ha taisetsu da ne, dakedo namida mo hitsuyousa (Strength is an important thing, but tears too are necessary)
    3. Re:Sound Advice by DarrylM · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ahh, It's all coming clear... Microsoft is using A.L.I.C.E. now!

      Microsoft1: All things you need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft2: But all things are not always me need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft1: Umm. But all things are not always are not always you need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft2: Interesting. But all things are not always are not always are not always me need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft1: Interesting. But all things are not always are not always are not always are not always you need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft2: Huh. But all things are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always me need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft1: Huh. But all things are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always you need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft2: Umm. But all things are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always me need to trust are from Microsoft.
      Microsoft1: And. But all things are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always you need to trust are from Microsoft.

      etc.

      :-)

  4. Re: Another critical Microsoft hole by T1girl · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not was enough that recent vulnerability in IE that can run any program in an unpatched windows system.

    Difficult to read this post is, hmmm?

  5. "Don't trust Microsoft" by ctid · · Score: 4, Funny

    This must be the most utterly humiliating admission I have ever read. The fact that it comes in the context of a security problem beggars belief.

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    Reality is defined by the maddest person in the room
  6. I Like Their Solution! by 0101000001001010 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The final recomendation from Microsoft? Don't trust/run ActiveX controls signed by Microsoft.

    The 'solution' from MS in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-065 recommends that you remove MS from the list of Trusted Publishers.

    Will Do!

  7. Microsoft knows best by Anarchofascist · · Score: 4, Funny

    All you linux freaks should pay attention - here is Microsoft issuing some very timely and correct advice.

    "Don't trust us"

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    Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, Or close the wall up with our American dead!
  8. Trusted computing. by MongooseCN · · Score: 2, Funny

    As this control is Microsoft signed...

    Trusted computing, digital signing... I guess it all boils down to "You can trust Microsoft that this signed control will screw over your computer."

  9. DOJ reaction by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Funny


    Today the DOJ announced that they would no longer trust Microsoft and had removed Microsoft from the list of companies it would allow to police themselves. This was done on Microsoft's advice as they felt they could not be trusted not to screw around like they had before.

    "Lets face it" said Bill Gates "asking us to police ourselves is like asking Dan Quayle to front a literacy program, its just not a good idea"

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    An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
  10. I also don't trust software i write by TrueKonrads · · Score: 2, Funny

    I also don't trust software i write, why should MS do different? I mean you can't say elseway " The programmer was a moron" and keep the pride

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    Lone Gunmen crew.
  11. Re:More Bias by warrior_on_the_edge_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    It just makes us look like insecure teenagers

    Maybe we should apply the SECURE teenager patch I thought I saw somewhere....

  12. Re:This bodes well by kmellis · · Score: 5, Funny
    "There is no such thing as implicit trust, and if you think there is, please send me a blank check." - aphor
    Sure, just give me your address, and it'll be on its way.
  13. I find it amusing... by analog_line · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that the only safe place to run a Microsoft browser is on an Apple Computer operating system.

  14. Time to upgrade by Hasie · · Score: 2, Funny

    The solution is to upgrade to Windows XP because it doesn't have this problem. This is the best news Microsoft has had in years!

  15. Re:Question by Peer · · Score: 4, Funny

    The current user is a perfectly safe security context

    Sure if you never store personal documents under it.

  16. A bit of fuzzy logic by leoboiko · · Score: 4, Funny

    So Microsoft says to not trust them. Ok, I will not trust. But then I don't believe in this request. So I should trust MS. Ok, I'll trust'em. But then the request is true, and I should not trust...

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    Prescriptive grammar:linguistics :: alchemy:chemistry. Stop being a nazi and learn some science.
  17. Another Microsoft Security Bulletin ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft Security Bulletin MS-666: it is recommended that you remove microsoft windows in order to prevent the above mentioned vulnerability from accessing your server. there is no security hotfix available at this time.

  18. Re:why? by pooh666 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Current Microsoft story on CNN Tech news:
    "Microsoft innovates"

    With a nice little sponsered by, Microsoft icon right under the headline. That is why..

  19. ATTN: Slashdot Editors by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hello, today when browsing the site, I found an error (probably typographical) on the site. I would appreciate it if you could correct this: The story "Another Critical Microsoft Hole" should be reposted under the "It's Funny. Laugh." category. Thank you for your time.

  20. Don't blame Microsoft... by Neutron+Zenith · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's all Eolas' fault :)

  21. You can download a patch here by shodson · · Score: 2, Funny
  22. Your answer... by 13Echo · · Score: 3, Funny
    Why are these things posted here? Is it because of the many /. users that use windows :-), or is it because we're always trying to make windows look bad?


    Yes.
  23. Re:Oooo! He card read good! by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Funny

    beowulf cluster of yoda there are.

    karmasuicide2k2

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    world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
  24. infinite loop by 3k9 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ok, so Microsoft says "You can't trust us".

    Anybody see that this resembles the following situation:

    "I am a pathological liar,
    Everything I say is a lie,
    you can trust me on this."

    Now what are ya gonna believe??

  25. Click...refresh...huh? by CodeShark · · Score: 5, Funny
    'xcuse me -- thought I'd pulled a Rip Van Winkle and woke up just in time for a Malda & Co. April Fools Joke.....Microsoft admitting that that content from Microsoft can't be trusted?

    --note to self--

    Consider buying stock in proposed Hades Ski and Ice Skating resort... it must be getting real cold down there about now, somewhere between slushy and completely frozen over.

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    ...Open Source isn't the only answer -- but it's almost always a better value than the alternatives...
  26. In other news... by pixelated77 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft has warned about a security hole in Notepad. While Microsoft prepares a fix, it advises that we all use EDLIN in the mean time.

  27. Great solution, what about SPAM? by insac · · Score: 5, Funny

    (...)
    "The simplest way is to make sure you have no
    trusted publishers, including Microsoft. If you do
    that, any attempt by either a web page or an HTML
    mail to download an ActiveX control will generate a warning message."
    (...)

    We could use this idea also with SPAM. Why use Bayesian filters (that aren't still 100% safe)? We could open every single message and decide if it is SPAM or not. If it is SPAM we can then delete it... it's easy!!

    This message doesn't need a signature

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  28. time line by merbywerby · · Score: 1, Funny

    Id reallly like to see all of these laid out on a time line. Seems everday there is a new M$ "critical" issue. :)

  29. Re:RTFM : lol... Try Runas.. by Whibla · · Score: 2, Funny

    What I want to know is why 99% of the fscking setup programs need to run as admin to install simple little applets into my user context..

    I think that this is due to the fact that these installs are modifying the registry. But, you say, Win2k has a user portion of the registry that the user can edit. Well, yes, but this does not allow for dependancies and global file extension settings. Basically, when a "dependant" program is installed it increments a counter in the registry branch for the program that it is dependant on (if that makes sense :-)), so that if you try to un-install the 'higher-level' depenency, or run a disk clean up, Windows knows not to remove it. Anyway, to get back to the point, you need the admin rights to be able to make changes to the non-user portion of the registry. I do agree though - bloody stupid.

    Intelli-sync for Palms is one program like this. Their solution - install / run as Administrator. Just make sure that when you do this you only make the user a LOCAL adminstrator. I made this mistake once - and spent most of a night putting one of our servers back together. Never again!

  30. Ah, the irony... by syylk · · Score: 2, Funny

    The 'solution' from MS in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-065 recommends that you remove MS from the list of Trusted Publishers."

    Trustworthy Computing!

    Yeah, sure... And then they recommend to be removed from the trustworthy list...