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High Volume CD/DVD Cleaning Options?

WasteOfAmmo asks: "I help administer a small software library where users are allowed to borrow CD's for a few days to install various software packages (yes, it is all legal, futher explanation is not necessary). Obviously as the CD's are circulated more and more they become more and more scratched, 'dirty', and abused looking. Eventuallly (sometimes after 1 use) the CD's begin to have read errors. Currently once the CD's are confirmed as 'bad' they are destoryed and replaced (re-burned). This system is costly if not in material then in time. I have been searching with little or no success for a commercial or mid to high volume (5 - 20 disks per day) system for cleaning/polishing/repairing (ie: removal of small scratches) CD's. I have read all about various cleaners (including toothpaste) and kits that can be used but in all cases the procedure is time intensive, typically targeted at low volume end users, and with dubious claims of success at best. What I am looking for a system that would work similar to a video tape rewinder: you pop the CD into it, hit a button, walk away; Sometime later you come back and presto you have a freshly cleaned CD. With all the libraries, video rental, and software 'collections' out there must be a better system then 'hand washing' each CD."

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  1. Game Doctor by Chemical+Serenity · · Score: 4, Informative

    I found a little device in Electronics Boutique called the 'Game Doctor'. There's a manual and electronic motorized version. Requires no special parts aside from purified water to lubricate the process, and the results are nothing short of astounding. There's some CDs I had with gouges so deep I thought for sure I'd have to replace them and the Game Dr. ressurected them.

    Definately worth an investment to check out, at the very least. I haven't come across a disk it hasn't been able to save yet.

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    1. Re:Game Doctor by Apreche · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow, you are like the first success story of the Dr. Repair series yet. I personally damage a CD-ROM once that I hadn't had a backup of. I proceeded to purchase one of the Dr. Series of repair machines. It sucked, it didn't repair the disc and it was a cheap piece of plastic/waste of money. I ended up returning it. A quick google for the device shows tons more horror stories about the device than success stories.
      I'm surprised that you haven't had trouble with it. Care to tell everyone the secret to making it not suck?

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    2. Re:Game Doctor by Chemical+Serenity · · Score: 4, Informative

      Reading the instructions helped ;)

      I think the primary cause of failures that I could see was people just not lubricating (ie: spraying on enough water to keep the thing moving smooth). If you grind on a dry or under-lubricated disk, you might as well be using #60 wet-dry sandpaper, and start saving up for your next CD/DVD.

      Hell, it even works on DVDs for me... my kids managed to completely mangle my old Matrix dvd, to the point where my player would completely barf on it about the point where neo took the pills... a little Dr. on it and it doesn't even skip any more.

      Maybe I got a good one, I dunno. ;) Hasn't failed me yet, tho!

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  2. Re:Game Doctor Links by Chemical+Serenity · · Score: 3, Informative

    Found the link to the manufacturer...

    http://www.digitalinnovations.com

    Mail: sales@digitalinnovations.com

    Phone: 1-888-SMART-58

    HTH. HAND.

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  3. Ask Google & 3 Clicks Later... by seigniory · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.vcdr.com/CD%20Machine.htm

    Valley Compact Disc Repair Inc. introduces the world's first and only fully automatic CD repair machine. The only machine available designed for performing CD repair as a business. The Disc-Go-Mech can repair up to 100 heavily damaged CD's per hour, unmanned!

  4. How about some protective sheets? by MImeKillEr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out here. I've never used them and have seen these for sale at a local store (different mfg, but same principal). Should negate the scratches alltogether.

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  5. Re:An ounce of prevention by digitalmuse · · Score: 3, Informative

    please tell me you're kidding... hairspray is an aerosol laquer and while I've used it for everything from dulling chrome on photo-shoots to protecting pastel and soft-chalk artwork, I doubt it works very well to protect the surface of CDs.
    If you have found some hairspray brand which dries with a hard enough surface to protect the clear plastic surface of the CD, is transparent enough not to cause read errors, and doesn't attract/stick dirt any worse than they already do, please let us know. Otherwise I'll keep the Aquanet in the medicine cabinet and stick to my GameDoctor and Novus thank-you-very-much....

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  6. Re:Explanation? by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unless of course that smell permeating from this story is BS and johnnylaw will come bangin on your door, in which case, nevermind.

    He probably works in a college library at a school that has a Microsoft Campus License. Those licenses are almost always implemented by haveing the library sign out CD copies. The school I went to had this program, and the disks got trashed all the time. We probably spend a couple of hundred dollars a semester replacing the disks.

    Anyway, I believe he's telling the truth about it being legit. What he's trying to do is probably a lost cause though. Best bet: Get a duplicating machine and make 50-100 copies of everything. Suck it up and waste a few hundred bucks on blanks.

  7. What about damage to the TOP side? by jerde · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised nobody else mentioned that the Achilles' Heel of CDs are their TOP side, not the bottom.

    CDs have all the data pressed or burned on a very thin layer just beneath the surface of the TOP side of the disc. Scratch that layer, you're actually scraping bytes right off the disc, permanently.

    Scratches on the bottom side of the disc, a layer that includes almost the entire thickness of the disc, are minor by comparison.

    DVDs are much easier to fix by polishing, because the data layer is in the exact middle of the disc -- indeed even "single-sided" DVDs are two half-thickness discs glued together. Thus the data layer is shielded from both directions, and it's much harder to permanently zarch a DVD.

    - Peter

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    1. Re:What about damage to the TOP side? by jerde · · Score: 2, Informative

      No no no! CD players are designed to focus though 1.2mm of plastic to the surface very very near the "top" side of the CD. See a diagram of CD layers.

      It's DVDs that have the same thickness of plastic on both sides, as my original post said.

      It is true, though, that some CD-R manufacturers paint on a stronger anti-scratch coating, making it harder to scratch off the reflective coating.

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  8. Avoid the CD's altogether. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Perhaps you can make just the images available to your users on your network?

  9. Re:Explanation? by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Someone has solved the problem already.

    It's called putting the CDs on the network. With the exception of an OS that needs to boot from a CD, the installs should work fine over the network.

    That's how my school did/does it, and it worked just fine. If someone can't use the network for whatever reason, you can still check out the CD -- but 0.1% as often.

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