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Slashback tonight with more on efforts to stop the flow of AOL CDs from their house to yours, getting modded XBoxes on Microsoft's network, a less optimistic look at NVIDIA's latest chip, and more. Read on for more. Update: 11/22 00:13 GMT by T : Thanks to the AC who noticed the goofed headline ("this is only a test," remember), now amended.

Excuse me, is this the service entrance? We just posted about Microsoft blocking gamers with mod-chipped X-boxes from the Microsoft-run online gaming service; now NiteStar writes "Xbox-Scene.com just reported that a group of Xbox hackers named Team Assembly managed to change the serial number and MAC address of the xbox. After the change they managed to get onto Xbox Live (with mod-chip disabled) with a previously banned xbox ..."

Not so fast, mister. The Raindog writes "Since NVIDIA announced its GeForce FX graphics chip, the web has been flooded with a slew of previews and articles that do little more than regurgitate what must have been NVIDIA's official press kit. Slashdot had coverage a few days ago, but since then, a new take on NVIDIA's latest chip has surfaced without all the PR-inspired hype. As it turns out, the GeForce FX's features aren't all that remarkable next to ATI's Radeon 9700 Pro, which has been available for months now."

I liked the old .sig about a black hole that would blot out the sun. Matthew Davis writes "CNN.com ran a story about Jim McKenna and John Lieberman back in October requesting everyone to send the CD mailers they receive to them. When they reach 1 million CDs they'll hand deliver them to AOL. In a recent article by SiliconValley.com they quote Nicholas Graham, a spokesman for AOL stating, "If they reach their goal ... I'd be happy to give them directions and greet them at the door ... We would make a contribution ourselves to put them over the top" Does that mean they're putting Jim and John's address on the top of the CD mailing list?"

Now if only these were CD-RWs ... and they can keep sending me the nice, reusable cases, just no more paper sleeves, thanks.

Still teasing, Stephen. foolish_child writes "Not sure if you noticed, but in the newest paperback pressing of Cryptonomicon (1 November 2002, I think) there is a chapter from Quicksilver at the back. I spotted it in the railway station in Amsterdam, so maybe it's a European edition. I have been checking to see if it was also online but have seen no sign of it - hence the heads up. I'm sure someone will scan it in soon - it is SUPERB! (read it waiting for a train) - Enoch the Red, emissary of the Royal Society, landing in 1700's Boston looking for . . someone. Scary thing is how good his research is as usual - I've just been reading up on Leibnitz and Newton and Co. and . . . you've probably seen it already but I wanted to share :)"

This new edition of Cryptonomicon is probably in a bookstore near you already, and the book proper is (only) several months away.

One small step for BanKind. An anonymous reader writes "It seems CapitalOne's website works with Mozilla, as of this November, 2002. This is good news because many people have CapitalOne credit cards, and previously the site required Microsoft's Intarweb Explorer. This just shows how simply speaking up by e-mailing large companies can evoke change. For more info see here ." Update: 12/03 22:00 GMT by T : Note that this information renders moot the question posed here about Cap One.

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  1. Trolling on Slashdot Japan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Has anyone given it a good go?
    I've seen a goatse link or two.

  2. Happy birthday who? by aster_ken · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Who is fkp, and why are we wishing this person a happy birthday?

  3. Happy Shithead! :) 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Slashback: Circumvention, AOLandfill, Scoffing
    Posted by timothy on Thursday November 21, @06:59PM
    from the happy-birthday-fkp dept.
    Slashback tonight with more on efforts to stop the flow of AOL CDs from their house to yours, getting modded XBoxes on Microsoft's network, a less optimistic look at NVIDIA's latest chip, and more. Read on for more. Update: 11/22 00:13 GMT by T: Thanks to the AC who noticed the goofed headline ("this is only a test," remember), now amended.

    Excuse me, is this the service entrance? We just posted about Microsoft blocking gamers with mod-chipped X-boxes from the Microsoft-run online gaming service; now NiteStar writes "Xbox-Scene.com just reported that a group of Xbox hackers named Team Assembly managed to change the serial number and MAC address of the xbox. After the change they managed to get onto Xbox Live (with mod-chip disabled) with a previously banned xbox ..."

    Not so fast, mister. The Raindog writes "Since NVIDIA announced its GeForce FX graphics chip, the web has been flooded with a slew of previews and articles that do little more than regurgitate what must have been NVIDIA's official press kit. Slashdot had coverage a few days ago, but since then, a new take on NVIDIA's latest chip has surfaced without all the PR-inspired hype. As it turns out, the GeForce FX's features aren't all that remarkable next to ATI's Radeon 9700 Pro, which has been available for months now."

    I liked the old .sig about a black hole that would blot out the sun. Matthew Davis writes "CNN.com ran a story about Jim McKenna and John Lieberman back in October requesting everyone to send the CD mailers they receive to them. When they reach 1 million CDs they'll hand deliver them to AOL. In a recent article by SiliconValley.com they quote Nicholas Graham, a spokesman for AOL stating, "If they reach their goal ... I'd be happy to give them directions and greet them at the door ... We would make a contribution ourselves to put them over the top" Does that mean they're putting Jim and John's address on the top of the CD mailing list?"

    Now if only these were CD-RWs ... and they can keep sending me the nice, reusable cases, just no more paper sleeves, thanks.

    Still teasing, Stephen. foolish_child writes "Not sure if you noticed, but in the newest paperback pressing of Cryptonomicon (1 November 2002, I think) there is a chapter from Quicksilver at the back. I spotted it in the railway station in Amsterdam, so maybe it's a European edition. I have been checking to see if it was also online but have seen no sign of it - hence the heads up. I'm sure someone will scan it in soon - it is SUPERB! (read it waiting for a train) - Enoch the Red, emissary of the Royal Society, landing in 1700's Boston looking for . . someone. Scary thing is how good his research is as usual - I've just been reading up on Leibnitz and Newton and Co. and . . . you've probably seen it already but I wanted to share :)"

    This new edition of Cryptonomicon is probably in a bookstore near you already, and the book proper is (only) several months away.

    One small step for BanKind. An anonymous reader writes "It seems CapitalOne's website works with Mozilla, as of this November, 2002. This is good news because many people have CapitalOne credit cards, and previously the site required Microsoft's Intarweb Explorer. This just shows how simply speaking up by e-mailing large companies can evoke change. For more info see here."

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    wow (Score:-1, Troll)
    by keller999 on Thursday November 21, @07:01PM (#4727641)
    (User #589112 Info)
    FP
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    SLASHBACK (Score:4, Funny)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:02PM (#4727642)
    shouldn't that be slashBACK?
    from the stupid-nitpics department

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    Re:SLASHBACK by OmniVector (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:05PM
    Re:SLASHBACK by mav[LAG] (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:06PM
    Re:SLASHBACK -- errr ... by timothy (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:16PM
    Re:SLASHBACK -- errr ... by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @08:02PM
    Re:SLASHBACK -- errr ... by anotherone (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:16PM
    Re:SLASHBACK by hvatum Thursday November 21, @07:50PM

    i was wondering how long that would take.... (Score:1)
    by edrugtrader on Thursday November 21, @07:02PM (#4727652)
    (User #442064 Info | http://www.edrugtrader.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday November 21, @06:51PM)
    i mean, the reason they caught you is you installed a system mod.... you should be able to install ANOTHER system mod to stop them from catching you. seems obvious.
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    BLING BLING (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:03PM (#4727653)
    I am k-rad, dawg!
    [ Reply to This ]

    Slashdot: (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:03PM (#4727657)
    Slashback?
    [ Reply to This ]

    TTT owns! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:03PM (#4727658)
    Once again TTT = Time to Troll.
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    Re:TTT owns! by The Trolling Troller (Score:-1) Thursday November 21, @07:28PM

    No kidding! (Score:3, Insightful)
    by Inoshiro on Thursday November 21, @07:03PM (#4727659)
    (User #71693 Info | http://web.inoshiro.com)
    "managed to change the serial number and MAC address of the xbox. After the change they managed to get onto Xbox Live (with mod-chip disabled) with a previously banned xbox ..."

    It's not really surprising that changing the only 2 identity-linked features on a piece of hardware would let you get past their blacklist.

    What you should be asking yourself is: is it moral for you to go online, with your modchip, and screw over people who want to play online without dealing with cheaters? Is it? I don't think so.

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    Re:No kidding! by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:08PM
    Re:No kidding! by Zeebs (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:08PM
    Re:No kidding! by weeeee (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:07PM
    Re:No kidding! by weeeee (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:13PM
    Re:No kidding! by Moonshadow (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:08PM
    Re:No kidding! by gvonk (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:23PM
    Re:No kidding! by Moonshadow (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:34PM
    Re:No kidding! by CableModemSniper (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:10PM
    Re:No kidding! (Score:5, Interesting)
    by Moonshadow on Thursday November 21, @07:14PM (#4727760)
    (User #84117 Info | http://captionthis.com/)
    Heck, if you really wanted to screw MS over, it is probably possible to write a little piece of software that will run on the box, set the MAC and serial to initial values, connect, and then be banned. Increment serial and MAC and repeat. Leave running for a day or two.

    Pretty soon, EVERYONE would be banned. There's an ugly situation.
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    Re:No kidding! by batobin (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:21PM
    Re:No kidding! by Ravenscall (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:37PM
    Re:No kidding! by CableModemSniper (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:21PM
    Easily solved.. by Inoshiro (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:22PM
    Re:Easily solved.. by Moonshadow (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:28PM
    Once again, think of context. by Inoshiro (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:33PM
    Re:Once again, think of context. by swillden (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:00PM
    Re:Once again, think of context. by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @08:01PM
    Re:Once again, think of context. by quitcherbitchen (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:01PM
    Re:No kidding! by Moonshadow (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:43PM
    Re:No kidding! by fishbowl (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:27PM
    Re:No kidding! by Indras (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:11PM
    Re:No kidding! by qbwiz (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:11PM
    Re:No kidding! by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:11PM
    Re:No kidding! by EllF (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:13PM
    Re:No kidding! by ceejayoz (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:57PM
    Re:No kidding! by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:17PM
    Are there cheats (yet)? by pigeon768 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:31PM
    Re:Are there cheats (yet)? by Boone^ (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:39PM
    Re:Are there cheats (yet)? by windex (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:46PM
    Re:No kidding! by m1a1 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:42PM

    Like poking a savage dog with a stick (Score:3, Insightful)
    by plierhead on Thursday November 21, @07:03PM (#4727661)
    (User #570797 Info)
    Look out for MS's righteous rage when the forged MAC addresses start colliding with existing, non-hacker users and it disrupts the Live service they've paid for! Can anyone say "bolt the door, the wolf's outside" ?
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    Re:Like poking a savage dog with a stick by meringuoid (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:20PM
    Re:Like poking a savage dog with a stick by rodgerd (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:30PM
    Re:Like poking a savage dog with a stick by SN74S181 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:14PM
    More like shooting a beehive with a .22 by Okian Warrior (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:29PM
    Re:More like shooting a beehive with a .22 by ceejayoz (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:59PM
    Re:More like shooting a beehive with a .22 by Istealmymusic (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:07PM
    Re:Like poking a savage dog with a stick by Guppy06 (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:06PM

    Write to the people at CapitalOne. (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:04PM (#4727663)
    These are the webmasters listed for CapitalOne's website; the people who decided to ban Mozilla from the site. If you're a Mozilla fan, let them know that you use it and you're unhappy with the decision. Threaten to take your banking business elsewhere.
    NAME: Burdge, Jonathan E-MAIL: jlb@io.com [mailto], jlbatdarc@w-link.net [mailto], elby@adequacy.org [mailto], darc@w-link.net [mailto] ALIASES: lb, jlb, Elby

    NAME: Casillas, Luis E-MAIL: casillas@stanford.edu [mailto], em@adequacy.org [mailto] ALIASES: em, Estanislao Martinez, Sylvain Tremblay

    NAME: Corrigan, Barry E-MAIL: barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk [mailto], bc@adequacy.org [mailto] ALIASES: bc, ktb (Kiss the Blade), Lover's Arrival, Euroderf, Erbert Paget-Paget, Anya

    NAME: Dickson, Craig E-MAIL: crd@inversenet.com [mailto], mendaxveritas@yahoo.com [mailto], mendaxveritas@pacbell.net [mailto] ALIASES: mv, Mendax Veritas

    NAME: Flickinger, Dan E-MAIL: flikx@geekizoid.com [mailto], flikee@xmission.com [mailto] ALIASES: flikx

    NAME: Haberberger, George E-MAIL: ghaberbe@frontiernet.net [mailto], George.Haberberger@usa.xerox.com [mailto] ALIASES: GeorgeHa, Hairy_Potter

    NAME: Huston, Bill E-MAIL: bozoman@vlad.geekizoid.com [mailto], ALIASES: bozoman

    NAME: Johnson, Peter E-MAIL: peter.johnson@voicestream.com [mailto], shoeboy@adequacy.org [mailto] ALIASES: Shoeboy, Peter Johnson

    NAME: Lockwood, Scott E-MAIL: wsl3@attbi.com [mailto], vlad@geekizoid.com [mailto] ALIASES: Vladinator, Lonesome Cowboy Burt, Quick Star, Pinkerton Floyd, etc.

    NAME: Linwood, Rob E-MAIL: rcl@cs.csoft.net [mailto], rcl211@is9.nyu.edu [mailto] ALIASES: AuntFloyd, Con Troll

    NAME: Mann, Warren E-MAIL: broken@warmann.com [mailto] ALIASES: osm, OpenSourceMan

    NAME: McPherson, Craig E-MAIL: craig@laceyonline.com [mailto] ALIASES: craig, naked&petrified guy

    NAME: Nelson, Brian E-MAIL: elenchos@adequacy.org [mailto] ALIASES: Elenchos

    NAME: Osborne, Michaell E-MAIL: osborm@yahoo.com [mailto], dmg@adequacy.org [mailto], michaellosborne@netscapeonline.co.uk [mailto] ALIASES: dmg, Dumb Marketing Guy, Lord Hugh Toppingham

    NAME: Sassaman, Esther E-MAIL: esther@antioch.edu [mailto], perdida@adequacy.org [mailto], reva_altamira@yahoo.com [mailto] ALIASES: Perdida, Reva Altamira, etc.

    NAME: Skinner, James E-MAIL: spiralx@spazmail.com [mailto], spiralx@adequacy.org [mailto] ALIASES: SpiralX, Manifold, Jon Erikson

    NAME: Stanton, Matt E-MAIL: matt@madeforchina.com [mailto], serf@adequacy.org [mailto] ALIASES: Serf

    NAME: Zikowski, Zachary E-MAIL:

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    Re:Write to the people at CapitalOne. by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:19PM

    Breaking the licensing agreement (Score:4, Insightful)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:05PM (#4727679)
    You get a EULA that says that you can't access the online gaming forum with a modified X-Box. Then you go and circumvent that by putting a new serial number and MAC address on it, possibly depriving someone else down the line with the identical numbers of playing online.

    You broke the licensing agreement in the first place by modding the box. Why do you think it's right to break it further by circumventing the agreed-upon penalty?
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    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by kindbud (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:17PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:22PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Mononoke (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:26PM Re:Breaking the licensing agreement (Score:4, Funny)
    by ni5mo (nismoNO@SPAMlost.net.au) on Thursday November 21, @07:28PM (#4727881)
    (User #590178 Info)
    Why is the Vatican equipped with lightning rods?

    Because God isn't a catholic :)
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    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by unicron (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:31PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:41PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @08:09PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:19PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:24PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:21PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:22PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:23PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:30PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Jagen (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:26PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:32PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by ceejayoz (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:02PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by svvampy (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:27PM
    Please see my other comment by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:35PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Bagheera (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:14PM
    Re:Breaking the licensing agreement by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @08:15PM

    It's unanimous (Score:2)
    by ekrout on Thursday November 21, @07:07PM (#4727697)
    (User #139379 Info | http://www.erickrout.com/)
    Everyone [savyon.com] hates [mit.edu] AOL CDs [kanorb.co.uk].

    Even dogs [nomoreaolcds.com].
    [ Reply to This ]

    Don't say you werent warned (Score:3, Funny)
    by dnoyeb on Thursday November 21, @07:07PM (#4727699)
    (User #547705 Info | http://www.rigidsoftware.com/)
    If you send your AOL CDs back to those guys, you get what you deserve...Them send right back to you.
    [ Reply to This ]

    Re:Don't say you werent warned by Indras (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:13PM
    Re:Don't say you werent warned by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:34PM
    Re:Don't say you werent warned by Migelikor1 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:47PM
    Re:Don't say you werent warned by jcpii (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:00PM

    Further proof: (Score:2)
    by talks_to_birds on Thursday November 21, @07:08PM (#4727702)
    (User #2488 Info | http://www.finchhave...omputers/acspam.html)
    "...managed to change the serial number and MAC address of the xbox. After the change they managed to get onto Xbox Live (with mod-chip disabled) with a previously banned xbox ..."
    Any code devised by man can be broken by man.

    t_t_b

    [ Reply to This ]

    Re:Further proof: by slakdrgn (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:13PM
    Re:Further proof: by aiken_d (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:29PM

    what about the innocent? (Score:1)
    by reduced (reduced@gmx.DEBIANnet minus distro) on Thursday November 21, @07:08PM (#4727703)
    (User #589510 Info)
    i bet microsoft checks for dupes on the live network. some paying customer is probably locked out now.
    [ Reply to This ]

    Re:what about the innocent? by Moonshadow (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:11PM
    Re:what about the innocent? by jasonditz (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:25PM
    Re:what about the innocent? by Moonshadow (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:31PM
    Re:what about the innocent? by livitup (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:38PM
    Re:what about the innocent? by BJH (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:42PM
    Re:what about the innocent? by jasonditz (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:08PM
    Re:what about the innocent? by Sheetrock (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:11PM
    Re:what about the innocent? by DaveV1.0 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:12PM

    Why return CDs to AOL (Score:5, Insightful)
    by MeerCat on Thursday November 21, @07:08PM (#4727713)
    (User #5914 Info | http://www.schmerg.com/)
    The usual point of a petition is to demonstrate to people the mass rejection the public are showing their idea. Returning a million AOL CDs doesn't, IMHO, do this; it just tells AOL that their brand awareness campaign is working (and I dare say AOL know how many they have made).

    If you want it stopped, hit them where it hurts - put a return-to-sender sticker on them, make AOL pay for the postage, or handle them one-by-one, or see if you can use that German law about making retailers pay the cost of removing and disposing of excess packaging... I'm not a genius (I used to be, but I'm told I'm not any more) but surely we can come up with something more persuasive than a one-off dump of a large single load of CDs.

    [ Reply to This ]

    Re:Why return CDs to AOL by 1DarkZen (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:11PM
    Re:Why return CDs to AOL by MeerCat (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:21PM
    Re:Why return CDs to AOL by MeerCat (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:24PM
    Re:Why return CDs to AOL by LagDemon (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:32PM
    Re:Why return CDs to AOL by MeerCat (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:42PM
    Re:Why return CDs to AOL by David Walker (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:46PM
    Re:Why return CDs to AOL by jfreis (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:54PM

    At last (Score:1)
    by bryhhh on Thursday November 21, @07:09PM (#4727720)
    (User #317224 Info)
    woohoo!

    Now I can buy myself an Xbox on my CaptialOne card.
    [ Reply to This ]

    RE: Cryptonomicron (Score:2, Interesting)
    by usmcpanzer (usmcpanzer@hotma i l . c om) on Thursday November 21, @07:09PM (#4727721)
    (User #538447 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
    I just recently (a weeka ago?) purchased the book in the US, and the Quicksilver part is in the back. Can't say I've read it yet, tho.

    [ Reply to This ]

    IN SOVIET RUSSIA (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:10PM (#4727724)
    Slashdot is Slashback
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    Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:41PM

    Changing serial numbers and macs... (Score:5, Insightful)
    by AtariDatacenter (jmccorm@@@yahoo...com) on Thursday November 21, @07:11PM (#4727735)
    (User #31657 Info | mailto:jmccorm@yahoo.com?Subject=SlashdotResponse)
    So they said they changed their serial number *and* MAC address to get back on. This is interesting and points back to something someone said in a previous thread. All you need to do is to make a program to burn through serial number space and get them marked invalid, and you've got a DoS of entertaining proportions.
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    Re:Changing serial numbers and macs... by jandrese (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:49PM
    Re:Changing serial numbers and macs... by killmenow (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:10PM

    Actual use for AOL CD's (Score:5, Funny)
    by coryboehne on Thursday November 21, @07:11PM (#4727737)
    (User #244614 Info)
    The other evening (without an internet connection) I was trying to install the .Net framework (dotnetfx.exe) on my laptop and since I had installed windows 98 the version of Internet Explorer was 5.00.x but due to the dependencies of the .Net framework I needed to have 5.01 or later.

    As an aside, when you don't have 5.01 or later it just kills the browser that you do have installed, so it kinda causes a really fun catch-22, no browser to surf the web to find a new browser..... Really sucked.

    Anyway, back with my story.... I was on a frantic search for a copy of IE 5.01 or later when I remembered that I had a stockpile of those AOL Cd's in the garage... I grabbed myself one of them (yellow, no idea what version) and proceeded to find the IE directory on the disc.. Sure enough it was version 5.01.x so I installed it and everything went smoothly from there.

    So, the moral of the story? Sometimes AOL disks do have a use other than coasters or frisbees....
    [ Reply to This ]

    Re:Actual use for AOL CD's by peacefinder (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:28PM
    Re:Actual use for AOL CD's by coryboehne (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:33PM
    Re:Actual use for AOL CD's by David Walker (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:59PM
    Re:Actual use for AOL CD's by suricatta (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:04PM

    AOL CD's are awsome... (Score:5, Funny)
    by BSOD from above on Thursday November 21, @07:12PM (#4727743)
    (User #625268 Info)
    when you cook them in the microwave for 15 seconds. Just don't try this with anything you care about.
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    I agree with this post by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:15PM
    Re:AOL CD's are awsome... by cscx (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:31PM
    Re:AOL CD's are awsome... by F2F (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:59PM

    xbox serial number (Score:5, Interesting)
    by FeatherBoa on Thursday November 21, @07:14PM (#4727761)
    (User #469218 Info)
    Team Assembly managed to change the serial number and MAC address of the xbox. After the change they managed to get onto Xbox Live (with mod-chip disabled) with a previously banned xbox

    Not only that, you can arrange for any arbitrary XBox to be permanently banned!
    I wonder if there's a way to pollute their blacklist with so many bogus entries that they have to give up.
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    Re:xbox serial number by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:20PM
    Re:xbox serial number by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:49PM
    Re:xbox serial number by pythas (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:00PM
    Re:xbox serial number by donutz (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @07:37PM
    Re:xbox serial number by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @07:54PM
    Re:xbox serial number by killmenow (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:07PM
    Re:xbox serial number by m1a1 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @07:47PM
    Re:xbox serial number by ceejayoz (Score:3) Thursday November 21, @08:05PM
    Re:xbox serial number by shogun (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @08:14PM

    So NVIDIA is not kicking ATIs butt... (Score:2)
    by dnoyeb on Thursday November 21, @07:15PM (#4727774)
    (User #547705 Info | http://www.rigidsoftware.com/)
    Remember ATI is the 500lb Gorilla here, not NVIDIA. ATI just woke up in time to see NVIDIA trying to sneak in on its graphics card market and put the smacketh down, respectfully.

    Lets see NVIDIA wake up and charge a little less that the 1/2 a grand they seem to think their metal is worth...
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    One word: drivers. by pigeon768 (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:43PM
    Re:One word: drivers. by ivan256 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:05PM

    AOL CD's (Score:1)
    by obiedxss on Thursday November 21, @07:17PM (#4727784)
    (User #241764 Info | http://www.nuklearpower.com/index.php)
    I also hate AOL and I wish to collect AOL installation disks. I have 768 so far, and I want to reach 1,000,001.

    Send contributions to SmarterChild@aol.com

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    Re:AOL CD's by Anonymous Coward Thursday November 21, @08:12PM

    Late Show with David Letterman website (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:17PM (#4727788)
    Anyone notice how Letterman's website [cbs.com] won't play RealVideo clips from Mozilla? Try clicking on "Big Show Highlight" under the DaveTV section (requires JavaScript).
    The interesting thing is that if you use the Preferences Toolbar (download here [xulplanet.com]) to change the user-agent string to, say, NS 6.2 Lin or IE 6.0 WinXP, it works just fine.

    -CF

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    AOLandfill Halloween Costume (Score:5, Funny)
    by Aexia on Thursday November 21, @07:18PM (#4727790)
    (User #517457 Info)
    The Saturday night before Halloween I had a costume party to go to. I remembered this Saturday morning. Or rather, Saturday afternoon since that's when I actually woke up. I had no costume.

    But I did have a bunch of crap CDs, some of which were AOL CDs. So I taped them together and went as AOLandfill. Had about strips of 6-7 down each a leg, a sort of vest and a couple on my forearms. Truth be told, it did look like some low-rent Power Ranger battle armour or something, but once I said the name, people thought it was funny.

    I also got to use pickup lines like
    Try me free for 1000 hours for your first month!
    I'm so easy to use it's no wonder I'm number one!

    The terrifying part of the costume may have been how well those lines worked.
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    Sending Back 1 Million AOL CD's.....Uhhhh (Score:1)
    by SiliconJesus101 on Thursday November 21, @07:21PM (#4727824)
    (User #622291 Info)
    Wow!! What a nice gesture!! You don't like my product so you won't be using it....then you are kind enough to return my promotional and advertisement materials to me free of charge so I can avoid the costs of having 1 Million more CD's made. Very nice guy!!! Saving AOL what must be several hundreds of thousands of dollars in CD pressing and printing fees has to be the nicest gesture I've ever heard of :-)
    "If they reach their goal ... I'd be happy to give them directions and greet them at the door ... We would make a contribution ourselves to put them over the top" - Yes...I'm sure he would. This guy will obviously get a nice bonus check for all the money he saved his company.

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    Re:Sending Back 1 Million AOL CD's.....Uhhhh by pheared (Score:2) Thursday November 21, @07:42PM
    Re:Sending Back 1 Million AOL CD's.....Uhhhh by SiliconJesus101 (Score:1) Thursday November 21, @08:01PM

    Trolling on Slashdot Japan? (Score:0, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:23PM (#4727834)
    Has anyone given it a good go?
    I've seen a goatse link or two.

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    AOL CDs in the Post Office (Score:1, Funny)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:23PM (#4727838)
    anyone else seens those displays of aol disks being given away in the P.O.?
    Take a few every time you visit....aol will think idiots are signing up and restock them, and if you keep the dispensers empty, you'll being doing a public service by sparing some n00b from the awful aol experience while attriting aol's resources

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    Happy birthday who? (Score:1)
    by aster_ken on Thursday November 21, @07:25PM (#4727853)
    (User #516808 Info | http://www.campuscomp.com/)
    Who is fkp, and why are we wishing this person a happy birthday?
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    AOL cd's how many do you have (Score:1)
    by headbulb on Thursday November 21, @07:26PM (#4727866)
    (User #534102 Info)
    I have over 5000 I figure take a few box's, save a few souls.
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    Capitalone has worked with Moz. for a long time. (Score:1)
    by dameron on Thursday November 21, @07:29PM (#4727888)
    (User #307970 Info)
    I've been happily paying my online account via Mozilla (on Redhat 7.2, then 7.3)for at least five months now.

    I used to use Opera disguised as IE, but for the past five months (since mid-June when I got a new laptop) I've been using Opera sans javascript, so I know I wasn't dreaming when I paid all those charges...

    I hope.

    -dameron
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    Nvidia not news ?!?! (Score:2, Troll)
    by Archfeld (archfeld@snotmail.com) on Thursday November 21, @07:29PM (#4727889)
    (User #6757 Info | http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 01, @01:53PM)
    Yeah, the same features implemented under ATI are documented but guess what...They will WORK for Nvidia, and they DON'T NOW for ATI.....

    ATI support is about the worst I've ever had the misfortune to need to deal with. The actually make M$ support look forthcoming and really eager to please. 4 rev's of ATI's so called catalyst drivers and things are actually sort of stable, but a slew of games won't run under the 9700pro, for example M$ CFS3 does not recognize the driver set up. If you are thinking about buying a video card I suggest as someone who has a Radeon 9700pro and a nvidia 460, I'd get a cheap GF3 or 4200 and wait and see the NV30. Unless you have money to just burn, ATI has dissapointed again, and they've not corrected any of this All in One Wonder driver issues either....
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    For shame. (Score:1, Insightful)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:31PM (#4727909)
    Welcome to slashdot. Where personal liberties are above everything else. Mine, that is. Fuck your liberties. I will (possibly) steal your xbox serial number and get it banned because I'm an idiot and forgot to turn of my modchip while trying to connect to xbox live. Now, you will suffer. Of course, MY liberties are all that matters. So go fuck yourself.

    Sincerely,
    A Typical Slashdotter
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    capital one (Score:3, Interesting)
    by Jucius Maximus (j13moh@netscape.net) on Thursday November 21, @07:35PM (#4727936)
    (User #229128 Info | http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Monday August 26, @01:49PM)
    "It seems CapitalOne's website works with Mozilla, as of this November, 2002. This is good news because many people have CapitalOne credit cards, and previously the site required Microsoft's Intarweb Explorer. This just shows how simply speaking up by e-mailing large companies can evoke change."
    Excellent. Now keep speaking up and make sure they know that you are pleased to be able to continue giving them your business because they respect your personal choices.

    My bank in canada always had a Mozilla friendly site and I made sure I sent them a nice e-mail thanking them ,describing exactly why I prefer to use their services as opposed to my previous bank.

    Positive feedback is just as important as negative feedback!

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    Never do anything.. (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21, @07:43PM (#4727986)
    Nice of Capitalone to fix their IE only policy just two weeks after I replace them with a company whose site I can actually use. Or maybe I actually caused them to change. Yeah that's it, it was all me. ... just in time to get monitored by the pentagon.

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    Neal Stephenson needs to get laid (Score:1)
    by TheHumbone (summvogel@nospam.hotmail.com) on Thursday November 21, @07:50PM (#4728034)
    (User #123110 Info)
    Does our hero's love interest still have an Adam's Apple in the new edition?
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    Confused.... (Score:2)
    by wilburdg on Thursday November 21, @07:51PM (#4728040)
    (User #178573 Info)
    Weird. A link in the story description to a reply to that same story...

    Hmmm... But... but.... *head explodes*

    Slashdot: Successfully colapsing the known universe since...
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    What I'd rather see... (Score:1)
    by Bytal on Thursday November 21, @07:52PM (#4728046)
    (User #594494 Info)
    is a good HOW-TO on getting those nifty AOL tin cases. I'd receive ten thousand AOL cds a day if only they sent them in tins...on second thought they can keep the cds :)
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    xbox - roll your own network? (Score:1)
    by feepcreature on Thursday November 21, @07:52PM (#4728047)
    (User #623518 Info)
    If you buy an XBox, you can do what you like with it - that's your right. By the same token, MS don't have to let you use it on their network.
    Of course, even if they have been banned, suitably hacked XBoxen could presumably use local networks or maybe even the internet (for games with weak timing requirements). LAN party anyone?

    P.

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    Quicksilver (Score