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Seeking Computer Science Fokelore?

Missing Bookmarks asks: "I accidentally deleted my bookmarks. I lost my 'Lore' folder, where I was collecting links to the classic folklore of the computer science subculture - things like Ken Thompson's Reflections on Trusting Trust, The Tanenbaum-Torvalds Debate, Dijkstra's Go To Statement Considered Harmful, and The Alice and Bob after-dinner speech. I don't need anything from The Jargon File (like The Story of Mel), because that stuff is obviously easy to find. I've listed all the things I could remember; please help me find the ones I've forgotten."

53 comments

  1. When I was your age... by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    my 1mhz Commodore cost me $5,000!!!

    1. Re:When I was your age... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a) You were ripped off
      b) They are 0.5MHz

  2. The agony of delete by ChadN · · Score: 4, Funny

    You may want to include some 'lore' about important files that were lost without any backups.

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    1. Re:The agony of delete by the_other_one · · Score: 2

      It is indeed unfortunate that you cannot be modded as both funny and insightful.

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    2. Re:The agony of delete by damiam · · Score: 1

      Sure he can. One funny mod and one insightful mod.

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  3. Doesn't anyone... by MacAndrew · · Score: 2

    ...do backups? Even the pros?

    At least I am not alone.

  4. Re:found it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WARNING: goatse.cx link!

    I'm not kidding.

  5. warning goatse.cx link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IT's a goatse.cx link.

    You would think that the folks at Yahoo would have a fucking clue...

    1. Re:warning goatse.cx link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hrm, I'm retarded. It's a slashdot issue, not a yahoo issue...

      Create a url with an invalid character, and guess what, you end up at the latter site:

      Like this:

      http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/mymodule/*http://goa ts e.cx

    2. Re:warning goatse.cx link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are retarded. It is a yahoo issue. They have their servers configured to redirect, which is a gaping hole, no pun intended. o to the goatse!

  6. This isn't exactly lore but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    We did have a client that layed off their systems administrator without first getting the root password.

  7. Original papers on lisp and information theory by TimoT · · Score: 5, Informative

    The original paper on Lisp by John McCarthy could be considered an important part of CS history: Recursive Functions of Symbolic Expressions and Their Computation by Machine (Part I)

    Claude Shannon's A Mathematical Theory of Communication is good to know as well.

    Richard Gabriels' Worse Is Better paper is also on the web, but I don't know if that qualifies. It's somewhat new to be folklore.

    I don't know if any of the original papers by Turing, Church and von Neumann have been put online so post some links if you find them.

    1. Re:Original papers on lisp and information theory by nickos · · Score: 1

      No, I reckon "Worse is Better" qualifies, especially to the many of us who only really know "worse".

      Here's the link - my favourite quote: The good news is that in 1995 we will have a good operating system and programming language; the bad news is that they will be Unix and C++.

  8. Editors : Please fix the typo in the Heading ! by OzPixel · · Score: 0, Troll

    I mean, "fokelore" ? Really ?

    Try "folklore".

    David.

    1. Re:Editors : Please fix the typo in the Heading ! by quinto2000 · · Score: 1

      How is this a troll? The parent is absolutely right. That's a pretty obnoxious mis-spelling in the headline.

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  9. INTERCAL by karmavore · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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  10. Dunno if this helps... by shepd · · Score: 1
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  11. Re:found it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, yeah, not that's a timeless fowlklorre.

  12. Re:found it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By the way, what's the deal with that copyright message? Who the fuck would want to wear a goatse.cx t-shirt anyway?

  13. Danny Cohen on Endianness by senahj · · Score: 2, Informative


    IEN 137,
    ON HOLY WARS AND A PLEA FOR PEACE
    Danny Cohen 1 April 1980

    Top Google
    http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/chris/sigco mm/t1/co hen.endianness.material.txt

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    1. Re:Danny Cohen on Endianness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IEN 137,
      ON HOLY WARS AND A PLEA FOR PEACE
      Danny Cohen 1 April 1980

      Top Google
      http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/chris/sigcomm/t1/co hen.endianness.material.txt

      Please use HTML links, like this one: On Holy Wars and a Plea for Peace. Just write: <a href="http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/chris/sigcomm /t1/cohen.endianness.material.txt">On Holy Wars and a Plea for Peace</a>
      Thank you.

    2. Re:Danny Cohen on Endianness by nickos · · Score: 1

      Oh come on. Big-endian is the low level debuggers friend and once you get to high level languages it doesn't matter.

  14. MIT AI Labs HAKMEM by senahj · · Score: 2, Informative


    Before the Jargon File there was HAKMEM

    http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/hbaker/hakmem/hakmem. ht ml

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    1. Re:MIT AI Labs HAKMEM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before the Jargon File there was HAKMEM

      http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/hbaker/hakmem/hakmem.ht ml

      Please use HTML links, like this one: HAKMEM. Just write: <a href="http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/hbaker/hakmem/hak mem.html">HAKMEM</a>
      Thank you.

  15. Re:found it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    obviously you don't recognize humor when you see it. That nobody would want to wear a goatse t-shirt is what make it so funny, just like the disclaimer that doesn't really help you avoid seeing that gaping hole of an anus.

  16. Mark I documentation, inc. a manual by Turing by UncleFluffy · · Score: 3, Informative
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  17. A classic by skware · · Score: 1

    I haven't looked up the the urls, but these are sure to be found somewhere:

    1. IBM and God: In the beginning god said "I be", and then to correct his grammatical error added "Am"...

  18. go ken! by jericho4.0 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've never seen the 'Reflections on Trusting Trust' article. It's much like 'The C Programming Language' in that it takes you far, in few words. Wow. I feel like such a newbie.

    That was an amazing piece, and I'm very much looking forward to what this post turns up.

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    1. Re:go ken! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If "The C Programming Language" was really an eye-opener for you, then you need a lot more education. His turing lecture was very clever, but C is really a relic. Let's join the modern age!

    2. Re:go ken! by jericho4.0 · · Score: 2
      Well, Mr.AC, as soon as someone comes up with a nice OOP, garbage collected, hand holding solution that even comes close to the power of C, I'm all over it.

      I use objective-C, Python, Java, Perl, and any tools I've come across to make my job easier. But you know what? All the interesting bits are in C. I wonder why?

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  19. Knuth on the complexity of songs by Circuit+Breaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This PDF file is something that deserves to be better known. It's not strictly about computing - it's about application of computer science to measurement of song writing. I'm not sure it would be computer folklore by most people's definition, but it definitely has a place in the geek folklore.

  20. Start with this recent ask slashdot article by anticypher · · Score: 2

    I accidentally deleted my bookmarks

    First, you should establish some "Affordable and Safe Data Protection Practices"

    Then, maybe, you could spend a few minutes googling up some links from
    alt.folklore.computers

    the AC

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    1. Re:Start with this recent ask slashdot article by ElderKorean · · Score: 1
      Lately whenever I read shashdot I always seem to have a reference to this classic piece of literature.

      Have you read the Moderator Guidelines yet?

      One of these days I should like to have a good read of it.

      Ian.

  21. how about this piece of obscure computer lore. by YaRness · · Score: 4, Funny

    rm -i bookmarks.html

    1. Re:how about this piece of obscure computer lore. by mekkab · · Score: 1

      Nice sig...
      "Zen & the art..."

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    2. Re:how about this piece of obscure computer lore. by YaRness · · Score: 1

      bingo.

      i recommend reading Lila too if you liked the philosophy in zen.

  22. Soul of a New Machine by acomj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its a pulitzer prize winning book called soul of a new machine by Tracy Kidder. It is unlikely that you can download it off the internet..but you never know....

    Its really quite interesting and it describes computer culture and management and how Data General came to survive and its quest to make a computer to compete with Digital. Great mushroom engineering management quotes (keep then in the dark, feed them Sh!t, watch them grow). Really a great addition to any collection of computer lore.

  23. The Hacker Papers by north.coaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although not a computer science paper per se, The Hacker Papers was one of the first widely read articles about people who spend an excessive amount of time using computers. This article also introduced the original definition of the term hacker to a wider audience.

  24. Dijkstra on Programmers and Mathematicians by caesar79 · · Score: 2, Interesting
  25. how about levy's "Hackers"? by jon+doh! · · Score: 1

    http://www.symonds.net/~roshan/books/hackers.html

    it's the who's who and the first two chapters. someone else may have it in a more readable font...in fact i used to have a link to a much better version, but now i can't find it...did you delete my bookmarks too?

  26. my two favorites by __aajelt3877 · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Csh Programming Considered Harmful, by Tom Christiansen.

    The Ten Commandments for C Programmers (Annotated Edition) by Henry Spencer.

  27. Start Digging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Annals of the History of Computing" http://www.computer.org/annals/ (For those of you who are English-challenged, no, this is not about past asshole programmers).

  28. Bastard Operator From Hell + Cathederal by severett · · Score: 1

    Personally the Bastard Operator From Hell makes the top of my list.

    The Cathederal and The Bazzar by Eric S Raymond would be a close second.

  29. good procedure by PD · · Score: 2

    When you are working on your computer and you've got something important going on, make sure you always mount a scratch monkey.

  30. The case of the 500 mile email by fuzza · · Score: 1

    This was posted to our LUG mailing list today, I thought it belonged here, even though no mods will probably see it :(

    Archive here

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