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Green Geeks?

sigmatt asks: "I've often wondered where Slashdot readers stand on environmental issues. This might be considered a little off topic for this site, but so many programmers that I know, including myself, are outdoorsy people in their other life, and I'm interested in the opinion of the wider geek community. The local issue in my part of the world at the moment is logging of old growth forests, primarily used for wood chips. The wood chips are not very valuable (as low as AU$7 a ton - that's US$3.50!), but it is the easy option - and I suspect it leads to the highest profits and quickest company growth. Unfortunately, our wonderful forests - with so many potential future uses (fine furniture, tourism, and, of course, my own hiking trips) are being wasted away at an alarming rate. Recently the tactics of those opposing the practice of woodchipping our old growth forests have turned to attacking the tourism industry in order to try to make a government who won't listen change its mind. For example this site ripping off another site, and the posting of a controversial bill board in Sydney airport. What do you think about these approaches?"

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  1. Green is not the real color... by BitGeek · · Score: 1, Troll



    Check out what the greens really believe in:

    http://www.davehitt.com/dec00/green1.html

    Don't vote for a party if you think just by the name they are pro-environment.

    And remember, the BIGGEST polluter in the world is the US government, and the worst one in this country is the all the federal and state governments. Private and coroporate pollution is almost nil by comparison.

    And the greens want MORE government, not less.

    A company wrongs you, you can sue them. When the government does it, you have no recourse.

    Best solution for the environment is privatization of land and a rational court system to sue for damages. You pollute my drinking water, I sue you. EVen if you are the government.

    And, while we're at it, how many jobs would exist if all the large and small companies in the country were destroyed? Where would the tax money come from?

    If you don't understand economics, and want to help the environment, you vote green, and your vote is an endorsement for wholesale environmental destruction.

    If you DO understand economics, and you want to protect the environment, you vote libertarian.

    Most geeks are actually libertarians, though the geeks on slashdot seem to be mostly socialists-- I suspect this is because most geeks don't hang out on slashdot, and mostly the slashdot is the LAN admin, Server Admin crowd (rather than computer, electrical and software engineers.)

    I know, a bunch of socialists are going to scream their empty heads off about this post- but please, don't waste my time. Show how market economics supports your position. (And if you think market economics are irrelevant, then you fit the definition of "not knowing anything about economics."

    This country is heading towards tyranny and socialism, and will go the way of the USSR (with a similar 58 million klilled) if we don't reign in the out of control federal government.)

    Economics are a science. A Geek, should take science into account- rather than following a religion. You wouldn't look to the church to decide your OS, would you? So why look to the church (or the agnostic mysticism of socialism) to determine your economic policy?

    Don't be part of the problem. Be part of the solution. Be a Geek and make a scientifically based decision.

    --
    Yeah, and you guys panned the ipod too: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/ 1816257
    1. Re:Green is not the real color... by BitGeek · · Score: 1, Troll


      Uh, dude, the review was BASED on the green party platform!

      Did you even read the article I linked to? I guess not.

      BTW- there are two Green Party US's out there, he's explicit about which platform he's reviewing, and the platform is still the same as it was in 2000.

      You really should have read the article-- I'm not saying the companies will be destroyed because they are polluting- the vast majority of companies don't pollute.

      But the greens want them ALL DESTROYED anyway! ITs in their platform! Forcible elimination of large companies, incentives for medium companies (And if that doesn't work, force.).

      Something about making the proletariat own the means of production, and we all know how that works.

      Next time before responding to something "not worth responding to", read the fucking article I linked to, and while you're at it, read the fucking platform you advocate so you know what the hell you're talking about.

      Its all in there-- total economic devastation, and somehow that's good for the environment?

      The USSR was real environmentally conscious, wasn't it?

      Just because someone says they want to protect the environment doesn't excuse your stupidity when they advocate policies that will destroy it.

      --
      Yeah, and you guys panned the ipod too: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/ 1816257
    2. Re:Green is not the real color... by BitGeek · · Score: 1, Troll


      Yeah, I know my friend in earthquake prone california is sitting in a house that will be destroyed at the first medium earthquake in the area because the CODES prevented him from building a SAFE house. Him being a geologist and working with an architect who was an expert on the issue was irrelevant to them-- anything out of the ordinary, and you aren't allowed to do it-- even on your own land, without house financing, etc.

      Convicted felons ARE able to buy guns on a whim, gun laws do nothing to stop that-- they stop YOU from buying them if hte FBI decides they don't want you to (by whatever criteria they wish.)

      As usual, you stupid americans don't value human rights and you call anyone who does an idiot.

      You deserve the tyranny you're getting, and the oppression you're asking for.

      --
      Yeah, and you guys panned the ipod too: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/ 1816257