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RIAA, MPAA Instigate U.S. Naval Academy Raid

LaikaVirgin writes "After receiving a letter from 'four entertainment-based lobbying associations', the U.S. Naval Academy has seized nearly 100 midshipmen's computers that allegedly had pirated media. It's good to see that the armed forces know who's really in charge."

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  1. This is more serious than you think... by DavidBrown · · Score: 5, Informative

    Forget all of the debate here on /. about whether or not copying copyrighted material is theft. For these 100 midshipmen, the real question is whether or not the Naval Academy will consider their acts as "theft" and charge them with violating the Honor Concept.

    Naval Academy Midshipmen serve under an Honor Concept, which states:

    "A midshipman does not lie, cheat, or steal."

    Penalties for violating the Honor Concept include: reprimand, being sent to the fleet for a year (and maybe being allowed to come back), and getting thrown out of the Naval Academy.

    Hopefully, the Honor Board won't get involved and these midshipmen will be subjected to only administrative discipline (loss of weekend liberty for a period of time, etc.).

    You can count on one thing though - Everyone at the Naval Academy will get lectured on how they can't illegally duplicate copywritten material, and the next midshipmen who get caught won't get off so easily.

    IAAUSNAG - I am a United States Naval Academy Graduate

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  2. No Veterans in the /. community? by Old.UNIX.Nut · · Score: 5, Informative
    For those of you who have NEVER served in the Military I will clue you in.

    1) Soldiers fall under the UCMJ not the Constitution when it comes to legal rights.

    2) These Naval Academy students face being bounced out of there for violating the "code of conduct".

    3) Ragging on /. will NOT change the fact that the RIAA has the "current" law on their side.

    If you don't like the law, then become politically active and lobby for change instead of wining that you think it is wrong.

    "All battles are fought by scared men who'd rather be somewhere else." John Wayne

    1. Re:No Veterans in the /. community? by joshki · · Score: 5, Informative
      nope. sorry.
      cite all the cases you want, it doesn't change the fact that the UCMJ is not really subject to the constitution. Certain articles of the bill of rights are in the UCMJ, such as the right against self-incrimination at a court-martial.
      The problem is that you fail to understand the distinction between a court-martial and an article 15 hearing, which is what these young dumb-asses are going face. Article 15 hearings are not federal court cases, and as such are not subject to the constitution. The only thing that is limited is the punishment that can be handed down -- i.e. your CO can't sentence you to keel-hauling or flogging with a cat-o-nine-tails anymore. He can, however, summarily dismiss you from the military -- which is just as bad as far as these people are concerned. There are no rules -- if you try to request legal representation you will be pushed to rescind that request, as it will only make your punishment worse.

      I know -- I've been to an article 15 hearing (coloquially known as Captain's Mast in the Navy). You are guilty from the moment charges are filed -- nothing you say or do will change the outcome. Everything from that point on is based on trying to minimize the punishment you get for whatever you were accused of, guilty or not.

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      I do not read or respond to AC's. If you want a discussion, log in. Otherwise, don't waste your time.