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Speaking Out For Free Software In India

inode_buddha writes "We all know how RMS and Bill Gates toured India recently, with mostly mixed reviews. The reviews don't seem so mixed after reading this memo regarding the use of software in Indian schools... and it's interesting how quickly these people pick up on the business. IMHO, this letter ranks up there with the Peruvian Congressman's letter to Microsoft in clarity and impact. People worldwide are beginning to wake up, and this needs to be shouted from the (networked) hills... "

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  1. From the article by Pxtl · · Score: 5, Interesting


    1.3 Even if the said corporation whose software is chosen provides software free of cost, we submit that the government should not include it in the syllabus. Providing schools or other educational institutions software at little or no cost, while the same software is sold at very high prices in the open market is a marketing trick.

    Its official - India is smarter then the USA.

  2. does it really matter ? by SystematicPsycho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    India has a huge enough population and an already established I.T sector that even if half the population of educated proffesionals support either M$ or open src they're already big winners. The obvious bonus is to get the most behind you. I don't know what RMS is going to do, Gates has already won the popularity contest.

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  3. how do we start weaning people off Windows by deadmantalking · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Problem statement:
    People are used to windows. In India, widespread piracy has ensured that Windows is avaiable with almost every grey market PC and in every school/home/office.
    Linux lurks in the background as a potential replacement, but most people are just not comfortable with the idea. Including SysAdmins! I know, cause i have worked in enuf companies to see that.
    The actual trick to popularize Linux is a hack of sorts... complain regularly to the local antipiracy people about illegal usage of Windows in office! IT WORKS!
    A very large company (i shall keep its name to myself, considering my brother works in one of its sister concerns)once had its offices raided by the local antipiracy guys here (called NASSCOM). The same evening, their sysadmin called up the admin guy in my company to ask about the feasiblity of using StarOffice iinstead of MSO.
    As a tech writer, my admin guy decided that i might be the best person to give an unbiased review. It turned out that for their purposes, SO (and OOo)was good enough, so i recommended that they go ahead.
    I have no idea if they actually did, but i hope they did.
    Another important factor to note is that people may be a little wary of using Linux as their OS, but replacing MSO with OOo is a less stressful option for them!
    It might be a good idea for people to start asking for OOo on machines from their vendors. even if it comes with XP or 2k etc.
    It takes away quite a few dollars from MS, which if u have read the reports has only 2 money making divisions with MSO being one of them. A reduced cash flow there (in addition to helping customers get great value for money - a complete office suite for free!) would cause MS to light a fire under the antipiracy guys who would raid more companies looking for illegal copies of that and piss more companies into using OOo which would further reduce the dependence of customer and deplete MSO revenues which would light another fire underthe .... u get the picture.
    its certainly possible in india at least... at least 1 (Zenith) of the 2 big local PC vendors here has no deals with MS and may be open to the idea of bundling OOo. additionally there are a lot of intel authorised dealers (essentially former grey market guys) who provide a lot of the home PCs in the country! now it remains to actually implement all this... :)

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  4. Re:It's sad by virtigex · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There's a polarization forming in regards to the US v Rest of the World. This is similar to the polarization in the wireless industry. Both in wireless and desktop software, there is a US-based monolopoly (Microsoft, Qualcomm) versus fairly open standards (Linux, GSM) worldwide. In the US, these monopolies are coddled and protected whereas elsewhere the free market reigns.

    The result is that innovation happens elsewhere and the US remains isolated. The US is correct in believing that the free market fosters innovation and progress, but does not heed its own advice and protects its home-grown industries. It would not suprise me if we don't see non-US technology (cough Symbian) making significant inroads into the US market to a point where tarrifs are introduced on non-US tech.

    The SimPuter is a great example of this. If it's afforable to Indian citizens, I'd be interested to see how appealing it is to US pockets.

  5. No, India is more pragmatic. by kindofblue · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Its official - India is smarter then the USA.

    Don't get your hopes up. There's still LOTS of corruption, especially with anything related to the bureacracy, regardless of the good intentions. I'm Indian, born there and raised here since I was 2. Our friends here and relatives there say that if want to help some cause, do it yourself or through a trusted NGO, but not through the government.

    Things are much better now, having improved over the last 2 decades because of business reforms, but there's still a long way to go. So essentially, a company, or any multi-national, could probably still make lot of headway by buying off the right decision makers.

    The primary advantage that OSS has is primarily cost and the fuzzy feel-good mission of it. But they are pragmatists, so if the world wants MSFT, then they will oblige, especially if MSFT can make concessions.

    China has a much better shot of escaping the clutches of MSFT, because they benefit, ironically, from being authoritarian (or whatever they've morphed into today). The Chinese government mandate to pursue OSS is probably more effective than the advocacy or advice of some groups in India. Because in the end, Indian software developers are free to pursue their business interests, just like American ones, so many will engage MSFT because of that.

    But that's just my opinion.

  6. Re:clarification by zcat_NZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and as the register pointed out.. $100 million fighting aids. $423 million fighting Open Source. Thanks Bill.

    When you've got as much money as Bill Gates, giving it away is about the only realistic option.. it's just more money than a person can reasonably spend!

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  7. Re:clarification by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and as the register pointed out.. $100 million fighting aids. $423 million fighting Open Source. Thanks Bill.

    In other news, the people of India today presented the editors and readers of Slashdot with absolutely nothing, in recognition of the donations they haven't made to the treatment of AIDS.

    When Eric Raymond matches Bill Gates dollar for dollar (hell, dollar for thousand dollars, even), then maybe the Open Source community will have grounds to criticize the Gates Foundation, but not before.

  8. Re:Two Observations by bockman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Do you think that having 15 computers running 5 significantly different sets of software is useful in grade school?

    It might be not such a bad idea. Schools should not teach the use of a particular software. They should teach ideas and concepts. Showing two computers with the same hardware but different OSes could make a great class about what an operating system _is_. Students could be encouraged to point out similarities and differnces between the design of the OSes.

    The result of this would be that when these students will face for the first time Windows2020 or KDE9.4, having understood the basic concepts behind any software design, they would not be scared by the different look&feel and they will need little or no training to use the new tools.

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  9. Re:We all can't be programmers. by madfgurtbn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is the main failing of the OSS community. They all think that EVERYONE in the world is a coder.

    I know I shouldn't respond to AC trolls like this, but I just can't stand it.

    Free as in freedom resonates with the non-hacker when they begin to understand things like the M$ OEM license scheme that says even though they paid $300 for the M$ Office upgrade on their last Dell, they cannot move it to their new one when they move the old one into the family room where the kids are going to use it for sending each other rude email.

    Free as in Freedom makes sense to Sally and Bob suburbanite when they can't find the 24 digit product key for Quicken 97 or whatever and their $99 investment doesnt' even make a good coaster because there's a hole in the middle of it.

    A lot of the things that are "wrong" with free software as it stands are simply due to the fact that we are on the outside looking in. When GeForce is forced by the market to festoon their shrink-wrapped boxes with "LINUX Ready", then Sally doesn't have to write a driver fo the new GeForce card. IF John the accountant would check his books, he would see a lot of his profit being siphoned off by Redmond, and he might find that paying one of his IT people to help fix up OPenExcel will benefit both his company and all the other companies in the world (except M$, of course) by freeing them from recurring software subscription fees. Free as in freedom means that the when you pay for software and upgrades and support is up to the accountant, not M$.

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