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Mozilla 1.2 Unleashed

asa writes "Mozilla 1.2 has just been released. New to this version are features like Type Ahead Find, basic toolbar customization (text/icons/both), support for GTK themes on Linux, multiple tabs as startpage, Link Prefetching, "filter after the fact" and filter logging in Mail, Palm sync for Mozilla addressbook on MS Windows, and more. This is the latest stable release from mozilla.org, and all users of Mozilla 1.0, Mozilla 1.0.1, Mozilla 1.1 or any of the alpha/beta/release candidates are encouraged to upgrade to this release. You can get builds and more info at the Mozilla releases page and you can find daily Mozilla news and discussion at mozillaZine.org."

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  1. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by ciryon · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm using Phoenix in Linux but Mozilla in Mac OS X.

    Mozilla is a good, stable browser with lot's of plugins available. It you have a fast computer it's probably a better choice than Phoenix.

    Ciryon

  2. New roadmap by edgrale · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you who are interested, here is a link to the new roadmap

    source: mozillazine.org

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  3. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by AmunRa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well seeing as phoenix uses the gecko rendering engine, any improvements to Mozilla/Gecko will get incorporated into pheonix, so development on Mozilla is good for Phoenix....

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  4. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by colinramsay · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know if that was a play on words or a reference to Type Ahead Find, but either way Type Ahead Find is a feature of the latest Phoenix milestone.

  5. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Informative
    Type-ahead find is already in Phoenix (as of 0.4 anyway.) Very, very, nice.

    To reply to the parent's parent, Phoenix still needs things like a security manager. But it's getting there...

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  6. Re:Why do they all go to GTK/GNOME? by ultrabot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why is it that they all go in for GTK/GNOME not QT/KDE? Are the latter combination more difficult to integrate? Something about the QT license? Better mktg by the GNOME guys?

    Something about the QT license. It's GPL or proprietary (it's your choice), while LGPL (the license of GTK) is more corporate-friendly.

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  7. Re:funny by Rovaani · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you'd read the whole FAQ you are quoting you wold see that
    Are anchor (<a>) tags prefetched?
    No, only tags w/ a relation type of next or prefetch are prefetched. However, if there is sufficient interest, we may expand link prefetching support to include prefetching tags, which include a relation type of next or prefetch in the future. Doing so would probably help content providers avoid the problem of stale prefetching links.
    So content-providers can decide all by themselves if they want to pre-serve the content. Althoug it is possible for a malicious web-site to set pre-fetch headers pointing to third-party web-site , thus draining their bandwidth.

    Also:

    As a server admin, can I distinguish prefetch requests from normal requests?
    Yes, we send the following header along with each prefetch request:
    X-moz: prefetch
    Of course, this request header is not at all standardized, and it may change in future Mozilla releases.
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  8. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by colinramsay · · Score: 4, Informative
    Not true. From the Phoenix 0.4 release notes:
    Why didn't you call it, say, Mozilla Lite? It's not Mozilla. It's backed by mozilla.org, sure, but with each milestone you'll see it further diverge from Mozilla.
    Phoenix is just Mozilla with a couple UI tweaks. We wonder when people will stop saying this. 30,000 lines of code have already been added or changed from Mozilla. We've forked the global history and download manager backends. And XHTML2 is coming to Phoenix.
  9. Please use mozilla net installer by suds · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please use the netinstaller (~250kb) which would find a closest mirror for you automatically to download.

  10. Re:shame there aren't more users by jonr · · Score: 4, Informative

    The more I use Mozilla, the more I like it. A good mesure of a quality software (or anything else). IE feels like a toy browser now. Mozilla is stable, fast and support correct standards. I just don't understand what people are doing wrong to get Mozilla unstable, on my Atlhon 750/XP it runs for days.
    J.

  11. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by The+Original+Yama · · Score: 5, Informative

    Take a look at the Thunderbird/Minotaur Project.

  12. Re:shame there aren't more users by rseuhs · · Score: 5, Informative
    You should really try Phoenix. It's very stable (I only had 2 crashes in 2 or 3 months of near-exclusive use) and fast.

    Also very nice is the fact that Phoenix needs not to be installed. It just works anywhere you unzip it. No registry problems, no risk of destroying settings, etc. And when you don't like it you just delete the directory and it's gone. Really gone.

    So unlike most other browsers (including IE) you don't risk hosing your system when you install/upgrade.

    So I would really recommend you to give it a try.

  13. Re:Immediate theme change? by Christopher+Whitt · · Score: 5, Informative

    The feature was called Dynamic Theme Switching or something like that. I can't get to bugzilla right now to search on it. I remember that it caused a whole pile of regressions and new bugs and it was backed out. I think there was an intention of giving it another try later, but I would say that any patches that are lying around are probably completely bit-rotted by now.

    When mozilla.org recovers from the 1.2 release and slashdotting, try searching for dynamic theme switching in bugzilla.

    Christopher

  14. I like "view selection source" by BroadbandBradley · · Score: 5, Informative

    hightlight an area of a page, right click and there's an option to "View selection source". which opens the html source and cues it to the area you had selected.

    Mozilla is IMHO, the best available.

  15. Re:Why do they all go to GTK/GNOME? by Skweetis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mozilla has used GTK to render its widgets as long as I can remember (since M7 or so). It sounds like they just added support for the theme portions of GTK.

  16. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Mozilla html editor is TOP NOTCH. It has never crashed on me. The code it produces is human readable! If you just want a quick, straight-forward HTML page, it is the way to go. Pheonix can't do that.

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  17. Re:shame there aren't more users by Dog+and+Pony · · Score: 3, Informative

    Opera still reports itself as Opera, just fools crappily written browser checks.

    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; MSIE 5.5; Windows 2000) Opera 7.0 [en]

    If your log analyzer can't handle that (nowadays), it is time to switch to one that actually get updates. Because this is how it has been at least since Opera 4. :)

  18. File a bug report! by MarcQuadra · · Score: 4, Informative

    That doesn't seem like proper behavior, you're right. File a bug at bugzilla.mozillla.org. That's the best way to get things changed in most open source projects (besides fixing it yourself)

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  19. Re:Anyone still using Mozilla? by rmohr02 · · Score: 3, Informative
  20. WARNING - online banking likely to fail by bjornte · · Score: 4, Informative
    Due to this bug:

    http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172097

    online secure banking that works in Mozilla 1.1 may not work in Mozilla 1.2. It seems that Moz 1.2 does not send cookies to HTTPS sites, thus preventing some kinds of authentication.

    Until this problem is fixed, people who use online banking etc. should stick to Moz 1.1.

    1. Re:WARNING - online banking likely to fail by tcoady · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is not a bug! I reported it originally but have changed it to WFM. This was my comment:

      OK *now* it WFM! I had to change Edit Preferences Advanced, Scripts and Plugins to allow javascript to change, create AND read cookies before it worked though.

  21. Toolbars non-collapsable by madprof · · Score: 3, Informative

    I downloaded a toolbar that lets me turn graphics, colours and cookies on and off at the click of a button.
    This no longer has the little thing at teh side that lets me shrink it down - this was mentioned in the Release Notes.
    What I'm puzzling over is why they removed that. Is there any way to make the toolbar shrink up and free screen space now it has gone?

  22. Re:content related difference by NineNine · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's on your porn site I presume?


    Yup... There aren't a whole lot of other types of sites that get that kind of traffic. Besides, I think that porn is one of those truly universal web apps that has a good cross-section from all parts of society. Very representative. My sites by OS:

    Windows 98 49.78%
    Windows NT 39.13%
    Windows 95 4.29%
    Macintosh PPC 2.45%
    Unknown 1.97%
    Windows 3.1x 1.55%
    LINUX 0.79%
    BSD UNIX 0.02%
    SUN OS 0.01%
    Macintosh 0.00%
    Amiga 0.00%
    OS/2 0.00%
    HP-UNIX 0.00%

  23. Multiple Mozilla Launches by Alethes · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ever since 1.0, I believe, Mozilla now has had the @lock file in your personal mozilla directory that prevents multiple instances of Mozilla from being running. The way to work with this is to use something like this Mozilla Starter Script, which you use to replace your existing mozilla starter script (the one called "mozilla" that sets the MOZILLA__FIVE_HOME and executes mozilla-bin). This script allows you to specify whether a new window opens for each new instance or just have it open the URLs in a new tab. I've been using it for a while and I find it very handy.

  24. RedHat 8.0 XFT builds now up by AmunRa · · Score: 4, Informative

    As subject, if you look under the Red_Hat_8x_RPMS folder in the mozilla-1.2 directory, there is now two folders: vanilla and xft , with pre-built RPMs! Get them now from a mirror...

    Now if only I'd waited a couple of hours ;-)

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  25. Re:shame there aren't more users by asa · · Score: 4, Informative

    You said that you plan on waiting for tonight's nighly build to pick up any 1.2 fixes but that's a bad idea. There are no fixes that have landed on the 1.2 branch since yesterday (and probably won't be any) so if you get or build a 1.2 branch nightly build today you'll have exactly the same thing and if you get a trunk nightly then you'll be getting development builds containing all kinds of new code being developed for 1.3. If you're looking for stability you don't want a 1.3 nightly build. See http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html#tree-managemen t for what this looks like.

    --Asa

  26. Re:Still no UPGRADE path! by rmohr02 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have had MultiZilla installed since 1.1b, and all I've had to do to upgrade is dowload the full file and install in the same directory as before. I've never had to mess around with preferences (except when new features come out, which I generally enable, and all the new options MultiZilla has gained since the time of Mozilla 1.1b) and I've never had to reinstall plugins.

    Oh, and I upgrade nearly every day, though I'll keep 1.2 for about a week before upgrading--it'll be different to use an extremely stable release in place of a relatively stable (compared to IE) nightly build.

  27. Re:Why do they all go to GTK/GNOME? by Omega+Hacker · · Score: 3, Informative

    > Ubercool and none of that stuff is working reliable. Gstreamer is crashing the hell out of my system. So who wants to deal with unfinished crap ?

    Head over to irc.openprojects.net (or whatever they call it now) in the #gstreamer channel, and we'll see what we can do about finding and fixing whichever problems you're having. There are several known problems, i.e. with i386 glibc linuxthreads, that we're hunting for workarounds for, and can cause random crashes.

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