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Spam Archive opening FTP service December 4
Saint Aardvark writes "The FTP archives for spamarchive.org will be opening on December 4, according to this Wired article. But there already appear to be some archives available." I tried saving my spam for awhile just for giggles, but seeing that file grow to 100+ megs made me so angry I had to delete it. Currently getting ~200 spam every day, and now often they attach images so they are 100k+. Yay Internet!
I think the idea behind their site is nice, but I also think that more and more, people are realizing that the only way to really effectively block spam is to use whitelists -- no fancy schmancy algorithm is going to block spam for long.
It's a shame, because I'm pretty sure that ceaseless, unrelenting, brutal torture of known spammers would be equally effective, but is unfortunately illegal.
evil adrian
Maybe we'll get some of the more creative spamers to run a "best of spam" series. coming to a mailbox near you this holiday season.
I think they should just go ahead and provide a subscription email service. That way, people can get the spam right in their inbox, instead of having to download it through ftp.
"I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy"
Who gets most spam?
People with public e-mail addresses do. Try writing a few usenet articles and have your e-mail address on a web site and wait for the spam to emerge.
Thank God for SpamAssassin
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I get that much on my PERSONAL account, and i also 'manage' spam for a 10K user base..
Somedays, ALL I get done is dealing with spam.
Too bad we cant bill them back for my salary, and lost network resources, like we can do for un-requested faxes.
And arrest them for sending porn with out verifying a person's age. Around here, you would be either fined ( bookstore ) or arrested ( individual ) for trying such a stunt in 'real life'.
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Rich.
libguestfs - tools for accessing and modifying virtual machine disk images
SpamAssassin is rule based and doesn't as yet use this new, dubios, spamarchive. It can use Vipul's Razor, however, as well as SPEWS, SpamCop, etc.
dave
who actually gets loads of spam every day? I get about 3 per day (3 too many!). You always hear about these poor suckers getting 200 or so a day, but how many of us actrually have to put up with that much stuff?
According to my filter logs I'm currently getting between 100 and 150 spam messages a day, I'm currently using RBL and SpamAssassin to filter my inbox so I usually only see 2 or 3 a week out of this total. Its still annoying though,
Just because you don't get any spam, doesn't mean everybody else isn't geting any...
If I got that much, I'd just switch email accounts, cos I just wouldn't put up with it.
Some people just don't have that option, you can't change your work email address, I know I certainly can't change mine...
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Burt "Out of my mind back in 5 minutes"
I also manage email for 10,000+ users. And I do a lot more than that; it simply does not take that much time if you handle things properly.
For corporate-wide spam blocking, sendmail has some great spam filtering features via DNS Black Lists (dnsbl). I use spamhaus.org and relays.osirusoft.com.
Add these lines to your sendmail.mc:
FEATURE(dnsbl, `sbl.spamhaus.org', `"550 Mail from " $&{client_addr} " rejected, see http://www.spamhaus.org/"')dnl
FEATURE(dnsbl, `relays.osirusoft.com', `"550 Mail from " $&{client_addr} " rejected, see http://relays.osirusoft.com"')dnl
There goes 90+% of the problem. After that, spamassassin handles the 10% that trickles through quite nicely.
If you don't use sendmail, all other modern mail relays can handle this problem in similar ways.
If people are going to use this archive to automatically induce rules for recognising junk mail (e.g. using naive bayes or ripper), then they will also need at least as many examples of legitimate mail.
Of course it could be useful for evaluating classifiers built using smaller corpora.
It's not the net's fault. Blame (or shoot) the spammer's.
:)
Well, some people ask for it by using their personal email account for signing up on sites, posting on usenet etc. Use an email account for these purposes, and the personal email account for friends and family. I don't receive any spam on my personal email account.
Some of us have been on Usenet since long before that meant we were "asking for it". That damage can't be undone.
Intelligent Life on Earth
Please please please setup Vipuls Razor - that we can all benefit from the spamminess of your account!
Are you sure you investigated exactly
what osirusoft does?
I fint it unfortunate that so many
administrators seem to put in osirusoft
as a blacklist without examing what it
does. Osirusoft combines the blackhole
listing of many many other blackhole
listings, one of which is unfortunately,
SPEWS. SPEWS in my opinion is
overzealous with blacklisting and it
is unfortunate that osirusoft includes
them in its list. To read more about
the problem, read this posting
here
here is a relavent quote...
ii. a grep on osirusoft - which yields about 1/2 the messages -
but.. when there's a false positive, there's a really good chance that
it's in this group - and of this class of false positives, there's a close
to 100% liklihood that it's SPEWS that's given the false positive
You can alos check out antispews.
Well, some people ask for it by using their personal email account for signing up on sites, posting on usenet etc.
Yeah, like those rape victims that were asking for it by wearing short skirts.
Nobody 'asked for it'. Don't you even resent the fact that spammers have made it impossible to post on Usenet with a legitimate e-mail address? Doesn't it piss you off that you have to be paranoid if some less-computer-savvy friend tells some web site to mail an article to you or sends you an online greeting card? Don't you get annoyed that every e-mail address that you post, no matter for what reason, get spammed?
Blame the criminals, not the victims.