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DieNadel writes "As posted here, support to ProPolice was added to OpenBSD. You can check the announcement. Note that THERE ARE dependencies that should be taken care of before building a new kernel, even on -stable."
FreeBSD has had this since 4.4
I just heard the sad news on talk radio. Troubled OS OpenBSD was found dead in it's garage office. There were no further details.
Fuck Theo. They should close up shop and have only SSH. That piece of shit SMP-less fucking piece of trash. I hate OpenBSD. I have every CD here, up to 2.9, and you know what? This long time supporter says to Theo: FUCK YOU CUNT.
I'm happily on FreeBSD. 5.0 should leave there nothing to be desired in terms of a production quality open source OS. Linux and OpenBSD are laughable at best in this regard.
Stackguard? Immunix has been doing this for how long - and thats based on Line-Sux? How many millenia has this been in other places. Why is this News?
This just goes to show editors here are populist fucking idiots, they know open-buzzwords, but dont have a a FUCKING clue what they are doing.
Does anyone know how this impacts the performance
of the generated executables?
*sigh* back to work...
perhaps you should look at the project web site?
Note that THERE ARE dependencies that should be taken care of before
building a new kernel, even on -stable.
No, no, no - propolice has only been added into the -current tree, so if you are tracking -stable, continue as before. Only critical fixes go into -stable, certainly nothing as huge as a big GCC patch.
They're dying
It's still dying.
damn it, why not make the stack grow downwards, like Plan 9 has done? ain't no stack smashing there! hell, no superuser either! (plus private namespaces take care of everything else)
Spaf: You can't secure a machine with a privileged user.
On many architectures, intel included, you can grow the stack in either direction. However, the thing here is that Plan 9 always uses stack-grow-down, and it omits frame pointers. They aren't strictly necessary on Intel either (-fomit-frame-pointers) but it can make code undebuggable. Furthermore, this doesn't fix the problem. If you know how far up the stack to manipulate, by overwriting into the next stack frame, you can still cause Plan 9 to jump to malicious code on return. But then, it probably won't do anything interesting without superuser. ^_^
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
48 of the 50 longest uptime web sites running FreeBSD or a derivative thereof seems pretty stable to me.
Fuck me then.
Fuck the lameness filter too.
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying!
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming close on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a cockeyed miracle could save *BSD from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
They recently got round robin routing included in pf. They also got altq in pf also. They already merged nat.conf into pf.conf. They did a massive suid audit and a major license audit. Now propolice. I though OpenBSD was cool before a lot of this stuff came about. Some things like no-exec code are not available on all architectures though. There is also a calling for more gigabit equipment for furthur and continued testing, read the want pages and I believe Nate for more precise info, and make sure you contact him to make sure you don't get something already being donated.
ZERO ZERO ONE ZERO ONE ZERO ONE ONE! Just brushing up for my next big invention: Ethernet over Voice (EoV)
The truth is it's dying. And so are you, responding to the cheapest of throwaway trolls.
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
Let me get this right. So Mac hardware user and uses OpenBSD...
That must make you a D-Link network card lover and a fucking real asshole, double-fucktard with a cherry on top.
Now stretch your manpussy and take it good, rimmer. You fat fucking homo sexless piece of shit RPG poor state subsidy welfare recipient IDE lover cant afford shit food stampist fat bitch.
The story of Microsoft claiming to be less expensive that Linux has over a thousand posts. Maybe Theo should star saying "we cost more than M$!" and get a thousand fold attention increase. Oh, wait... that will never fly.....
I heard a rumor that ProPolice is patented.
Don't know if it's true.