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AMD's 64-bit Plot

ceebABC writes "In a long interview with eWEEK, AMD's CEO Hector de Ruiz talks about struggling to compete with Intel, but more importantly about their upcoming 64-bit processors. He says that AMD's 64-bit chips will be comparatively priced to the 32-bit ones, and backwards compatible. He also thinks there will be a market for desktop 64-bit systems. Skip to the last page for the most interesting stuff."

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  1. Re:Big Bets on Table by cheezedawg · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Intel itself says 3.4GHz by the end of 2003

    They also said 3.06 GHz in 1H03, but it has been released for a month now, so they are well ahead of their posted schedule.

    I say "sell" 'cause even though they "released" it, you can't get one

    Not true- a quick look at several stores listed on pricewatch, and they all have the chip in stock. Dell also has been shipping systems with the chip for a few weeks now. Now stand back and compare that with the Athlon 2700 and 2800 (both announced waaaay back in September to great fan-fare on /.). The 2700 is hard to find, and the 2800 isn't even available at all.

    Prescott (i.e. .9) delayed to "Q4".

    While we are talking about delays, look how far back AMD has pushed Hammer over the past year. They first wanted to release it this year, now its mid 2003.

    P4 3.06GHz consumes >100W peak

    Not true- its peak is just over 81W. And the AMD 2700 at a much lower clock rate consumes around 75W.

    How is P4 going to address the 64-bit issue without a major redesign?

    What? Intel has said that they don't think there is a "64-bit issue" to address for desktop systems in the near future. I do think that Intel has thought it through, though, and they do have a backup plan in case there actually is a decent market for 64 bit desktop chips. Whether that is a major redesign of the P4 or something completely different is anybodys guess.

    Hammer is a much more efficient chip.

    Much more efficient with its 100 million transistors (compared to 54 million transistors on the P4)?

    Uses onboard memory controller.

    Sure you can save a few cycles for memory accesses, but then you have to buy a whole new processor to upgrade to the newest memory technology in 6 months. There are advantages, but there are also disadvantages.

    Did I mention glueless multiprocessing?

    If you like multiprocessing, take a look at HT.

    Hammer is much more than mere "fast x86."

    At this point, that is all that it is. There are few desktop applications right now that require the higher memory addressing and other features of Hammer. The AMD model number of the first Hammer will probably be in the mid 3000's, meaning they are targeting the 3.4 or 3.5 GHz P4 as direct competition. If Intel has reached or beat these speeds by the time Hammer is released, then Intel could be equal or better than Hammer in the only benchmark that counts (how fast does it do what I want it to do), and they can do it with 32 bits.

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  2. Impatiently Waiting by eigerface · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I don't have time to wade through another pre-release article on Hammer.
    Have they mentioned anything even remotely close to a release date.

    It's hard to rate a phantom.

  3. Re:Hmm by MisterFancypants · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    There are a bunch of games that do fixed point math because floating point does not give you enough accuracy.

    Care to name some? Didn't think so, asshat!