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Macworld Holds Battle of the Browsers

dumbArtMajor writes "Macworld has an article breaking down most of the available browsers for Mac OS X and evaluates speed, rendering, etc. Did your app of choice kick the other guy's ass?" I don't want to know which one kicked which other one, or where they kicked them. I just want one browser that works.

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  1. Make AppleScript Work For You by pudge · · Score: 5, Informative
    The story includes this:
    Launch the Script Editor application (located in the Applications: AppleScript folder) and type the following:
    try
    tell application "Internet Explorer"
    GetURL "http://apple.slashdot.org/"
    Activate
    end tell
    on error
    end try
    To use a browser other than Internet Explorer, enter its name within the quotation marks after tell application. To open more sites in separate windows, add new GetURL commands with the other pages' addresses.
    Bleah. You shouldn't need to know the browser name, or what events are understood by the app, or what arguments it accepts. Just use this:
    open location "http://apple.slashdot.org/"
    It uses your default http handler, and should work fine with all the browsers (and if not, send in a bug report to the maker of browser you're using).
  2. I'll enter. by tps12 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I have a chance at taking home the trophy. I've been browsing since the mid 90's, and I've got my moves down. I can read User Friendly in one window while submitting a Register article to Slashdot in another and bookmarking the latest Flash meme in a third. I haven't seen an ad since 1998, I've never been fooled by a goatse link, and I clean my cache biweekly. My History is organized better than most people's Favorites, an appropriate plugin is always found, and I have a script set up to automatically notify webmasters of broken links. I truly am a Great Browser, and I think I have what it takes to compete with the best.

    Sign me up.

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    Karma: Good (despite my invention of the Karma: sig)
  3. iCab... by singularity · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am disappointed the article did not mention more about iCab's unique abilities. It does have some problems supporting CSS, and it is HTML compliant to a fault (although being "compliant to a fault" with HML could be argues as impossible), but some features it does offer are only now being integrated into other browsers.

    iCab's Filter Manager is one of the most powerful things I have ever seen in a web browser. You can filter almost anything (cookies, JavaScript, images) based on domain, link, or another other thing.

    Mozilla's coders could learn a lot by studying iCabs Filter Manager.

    Do you want to turn off JavaScript except for your online banking (that requires it), and allow all cookies but those coming from DoubleClick? Done. Want to accept Slashdot cookies forever, but Yahoo cookies only until the end of the session? Done. Do you want to not load images that are 480x60 pixels big and not accept any images that come from */ad-bin/*? Done.

    iCab (along with some other browsers) also supports "Open in Background Window", which is something I cannot imagine being without while surfing.

    Another great thing? You can set it to only send a Referrer: header inside the same domain (or set it to not be sent at all)

    Unfortunately the article forgot to mention iCab's ad filtering (which is much more powerful than simply rejecting all images not from the original server and its ability to block pop-ups without seeing them.

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    - (c) 2018 Hank Zimmerman
  4. Bad coverage of Mozilla by LordNimon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I subscribe to Macworld and read this article in the December issue. The coverage of Mozilla was very poor. The editors just don't "get it" when it comes to why you would choose Mozilla. They didn't cover any of the useful Mozilla-only features. They didn't cover the fact that you could report bugs directly and download daily updates that can fix your problems. They didn't cover anything about the value of open source. They didn't cover any of the cool plug-ins, like the preferences toolbar, mouse gesturing, or whatever. And worst of all, they didn't mention that Netscape removed the GUI control for allowing you to block pop-up windows. That feature alone would convince half the IE users to switch to Mozilla if they knew about it.

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    And the men who hold high places must be the ones who start
    To mold a new reality... closer to the heart
  5. Surely most accurate benchmark evar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Time spent in loading a web page has to be one of the most rock solid, consistent and predictable experiences a computer user cam ever hope for. Thus their decision to only load each webpage once per browser is more than enough, and anyone suggesting that this is a ludicrously simplistic and flawed benchmark needs to get help.
    I applaud the scientists involved in this research for their painstaking efforts and astonishing attention to detail.

  6. Obviously an English-Only Type by kalidasa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    its overall rendering quality and its support for Web standards made it the browser to beat in our tests.

    Really? Standards like ISO 10646-1? Let's see:

    Internet Explorer for Mac: No Unicode

    Mozilla: BMP and Plane 1 support (maybe more; that's what I've seen)

    I just use IE for the sites that are too stupid to code to W3C standards like they ought to.

  7. Chimera Cons by DoktorFaust · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From the article in reference to Chimera:
    Prone to crashes; minimal preferences; limited support for Flash.

    Notice that all of these cons are just what you'd expect in beta software -- in fact, improvements in all of these areas has been made since the release of 0.6.

    This suggests to me that Chimera is going to be one awesome brower when it reaches 1.0
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    Die Menschen verhoehnen was sie nicht verstehen. -- Goethe.
  8. Pluses he missed... by DarkRecluse · · Score: 5, Funny
    "...Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.2.1...
    Price: free
    Pros:Most reliable renderer; good performance; great standards support.
    Cons: Sporadic cache and redraw problems; doesn't take advantage of new technologies such as tabbed windows or ad blocking."
    He forgot a few pluses... So let's update those Pro's and Cons...
    "...Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.2.1...
    Price: one measly soul
    Pros: Most coded for renderer; theatrical; standards support it well; No unused processor time; evokes joy in others; slows down your machine to prevent it from going to fast for you;
    Cons: What cons? Who needs a soul?..I mean, REALLY"
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    --"It's Bradford Company, slash your last name, dot your first name"
  9. Bake-offs like this are inherently flawed by melquiades · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with side-by-side comparisons like this -- MacWorld is an especially egregious offender -- is that they strongly favor comparisons on quantifiable attributes, like feature matrices and benchmarks.

    Unfortunately, these things aren't what users really care about.

    Most any modern browser will render most any web page at a perfectly acceptable speeds. I don't really give much of a shit about rendering times, unless some browser's are so incredibly bad that I actually notice them. (Perhaps I'm more patient than some users, but honestly, I really don't care. They'll all just fine.)

    What I care about is the whole "browsing experience" -- and that's hard to quantify. A program's functionality is more than the sum of its features: it also involves how well those features work together, and the smoothness of the facade under which they fit. I don't actually want a lot of features -- I want very few powerful features that give me tremendous functionality.

    This bake-off misses the subtle, truly important differences that make it worth switching. For example:

    OmniWeb renders pages gorgeously. They just ... look better. They're easier on the eye, scan faster, read faster, and are just ... pleasing. I defy even Tufte to quantify that.

    OmniWeb (and, increasingly, Chimera) feel much more like OS X apps than the alternatives. They have great UIs. Apple goes a long way toward quantifying that in their HI guidelines, but really, it's a "feels good" thing.

    Mozilla's tabbed browsing isn't just a feature in a checklist -- it's a wonderfully powerful and well-thought-out feature that's tightly, thoughtfully integrated with the app. Menus are keyboard shortcuts for tabs are there where you'd want them; tabs behave helpfully and sensibly. It's not the tabs that are exciting; it's the fact that they work so darned well.

    Do keep trying, MacWorld. I'm glad that somebody at least acknowledges that there are alternatives!

  10. Old article by Daleks · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Internet Explorer 5.2.1 [...] Most reliable renderer; good performance; great standards support.

    Um, what? If this were true, then why would Apple make an article documenting the IE's shortcomings? Also, on the subject of verions, why do they test version 0.5 of Chimera? 0.6 is much better and has been out since November 4th. It's a month later! The tested version of IE is 5.2.1, but on my machine I have 5.2.2. The modification date is October 3rd. This article is dated.

    Also why didn't the article address security? I seem to recall a problem with IE in that when it would download .hqx files it would automatically execute them. Granted it doesn't do this anymore, but it shows IE has a bad track record.