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SmartEiffel 1.0 Released

Per Wigren writes "Today SmartEiffel, the GNU Eiffel-compiler finally reached 1.0! Eiffel is a very underrated language in the free software community for some strange reason.. Hopefully this will help to gain some interest in this extremely powerful, fast, easy-to-read, easy-to-learn, almost self-debugging language!"

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  1. Re:What is it? by Johan+Veenstra · · Score: 4, Informative

    Then this link is for you:

    http://archive.eiffel.com/eiffel/nutshell.html

  2. Re:what's it good for? by edhall · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd not call it is "forced" Object Orientation, but rather it is OO plus pre- and post-conditions in a methodology known as Design By Contract.

    -Ed
  3. Re:what's it good for? by J.+Random+Software · · Score: 4, Informative

    Funny you should mention that. Eiffel's the only language I've seen that actually gets boxing right. Any class can be "expanded" when declared or even used, and then it's transparently handled by value instead of by reference.

  4. Re:What is it? by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 4, Informative

    Eiffel is an object-oriented programming language designed to be replete with O-O-ness (no, really). For example, their are no primitives in Eiffel, everything is an object. Eiffel also has a singly-rooted hierarchy and garbage collection (like Java) and parameterized classes like C++.

    Unlike Java, Eiffel syntax was designed to also act as a specification language of sorts, including syntactic support for contract specification.

    Bertrand Meyer's book Object-Oriented Software Construction explains problems in modern software development, examines how object-orientation probably could solve them, then designs such a language. This language turns out to be Eiffel (sorry for the spoiler if you intend to read this > 1000 page book).

    One of the points Meyer demonstrates is how a syntax to describe groups (classes) of solutions gets fleshed out into actual software that may execute. Eiffel, being that syntax, among other things, was intended to make you think in terms of types of objects sending messages to each other to get work done.

    That said, I use Java. Why? Apache's Jakarta project.



    Regards,

    M. Murphree
  5. Some infos about Eiffel by DarknessInBlindingLi · · Score: 4, Informative
    For those who are unfamilar with this language (I fear most of the /. crowd) here a basic overview of its advantages and problems:

    Eiffel is a language with an minimal instruction set (sometimes refered to as RISC language), which is used mostly in environments that emphasize reliability and dependability. It's small instruction set (e.g. there is only one type of loop) make it easy to learn and understand but is taking away some of the fun of coding. Most of the work you put into an eiffel project is to find the right approache, because you don't have too many ways to implement stuff. Here in Europe it's used in mostly academic environments that like the grace of its simplistic approace and its 100% object oriented design.

    Tradeoffs of this language are its high compilation time, as Eiffel source gets translated to C and then into a native form, the scarcity of available system libraries and the lack of dynamic features as shared objects and stuff.

    If your going to invest some time in this language, a look at those open source projects might be worthwhile:
    eposix - POSIX bindings for eiffel
    gobo - a collection of tools and libraries to unify the development of applications on diffrent Eiffel compilers
    mico/e - a CORBA ORB in Eiffel (DISCLAIMER: I am involved in the development of this project)

  6. Re:what's it good for? by the_mystic_on_slack · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, as a current student at the University of Notre Dame, Eiffel was used in our Data Structures course. We basically had two options, Eiffel or C++. Not a lot of people picked up on Eiffel simply because they were stubborn. But as a whole, the Eiffel coders had consistently better projects and overall success. It's purely O-O, so that takes some getting used to. The Design By Contract is an excellent tool for writing perfect code the first time, thus getting a larger systems to market faster. And the libraries that are available are excellent. The STL is simply not good enough relative to EiffelBase. Bertrand Meyer, founder of Eiffel Software, gave three distinguished lectures here this week, and another to our class, and he's very convincing when it comes to his methodologies. It's a great language for teaching O-O and Contracts. Additionally, the same code runs on multiple platforms, and EiffelStudio is available for free for Windows and Linux. EiffelVision also makes it possible to create GUI's that will compile on Windows and Unix too.

  7. Eiffel versus Java by hazzzard · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've used Eiffel quite a bit;
    actually, I was a TA in a class that used Eiffel.
    Being an experienced Java programmer also,
    I would say that:
    • Eiffel's syntax is a matter of taste. However, no matter what taste it is very clean and easy to learn, but sometimes trades this beauty for inefficiencies that ruin your daily life. For example, the semicolons between statements are completely optional, so you can write a:=1; b:=2 or a:=1 b:=2. This does not make the language ambiguous, but it means that you can only catch very few syntax errors at a time (usually, parsers can skip erroneous statements and report syntax errors even after them). The compiler we used to work with (ISE's Eiffel Bench) actually reported only one error at a time which was at some random place in the code. Just imagine the experience of writing a bigger piece and then trying to compile it.
    • What I liked about the language is its consistency, especially in the library. The standard library is a textbook grade collection of container classes and there are standards for naming things. For example, to retrieve something you will always use the function 'item' and not like in Java get, getItem getElementAt and so on. This is at least useful if you don't have an IDE that shows all the possible functions while you are typing.
    • Eiffel has full generics. This even includes bounded genericity, so you can do things like a sorted list of some sort where the sort has to be a subclass of Comparable. This rocks, especially when you compare it to the weak generics that Java is going to have.
    • Full multiple inheritance, even with renaming functions. A matter of taste but it can be useful.
    • Some features of Eiffel are debatable, one of which is covariance for parameters: This means that if you override a method in a subclass, you may make its parameters more specific. This means that you can get dynamic type errors even though the system is mostly statically checked. Also, you can throw out a function when you are inheriting, which also may lead to dynamic type errors. In practice, this won't hurt you (and can even be useful), but hardcore type system people can become upset about it.
    • Overall, Eiffel is a great language for philosophers. In practice, Java is more convenient and even though it's not as consistent and pure it has a more useful library (I don't mean the collections but the other things it comes with). Another aspect is that Sun's Java licensing is nicer than ISE's (Bertrand Meyer's Company). Be careful with them, they are cooperating with the evildoers and integrating Eiffel into .NET.
    • Even though some language features are debatable, there is a great book available that I would even recommend to non-Eiffel folks: Bertrand Meyers OOSC.
  8. Re:what's it good for? by HiThere · · Score: 5, Informative

    What's it good for?

    It lets you ensure that the program you write does what you intend. (This is called Design by Contract. It works better than any alternative I've encountered.)

    It manages multiple inheritance and limited generics in a way that C++ can't even try to approach. (Ada can do it, but it's a lot more work.)

    And despite what has been said earlier, it isn't a memory hog during compilation. Not compared with the current competition. (Unless you are comparing it with C, of course.)

    It's got a built-in garbage collector. Many languages do now, but it was quite unusual at the time, and it's still one of only a few compilable languages (excepting gcj == java) that have a gc.

    It's got a good documentation system. Better than javadoc. (But the presentation isn't as nice unless you purchase the ISE development platform...which I don't recommend.)

    --

    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  9. open source gui/database project for SE .. by elj · · Score: 5, Informative
    The ELJ project - http://elj.sourceforge.net/ has been successful in providing much needed multiplatform libraries to SmallEiffel/SmartEiffel developers.

    The wxEiffel GUI library provides a comprehensive interface to the wxWindows GUI. Database interfaces to Firebird, sqlite, berkeley db, mysql, postgres.

    There are even libraries for Regular Expressions and for those who like the perl way of doing things - see Perlish.

    The 0.5 release announcement in comp.os.linux.announce gives more details. The ELJ project is undertaking the necessary work to move from SmallEiffel to SmartEiffel.

    There are many other open source Eiffel projects:

    • GOBO - lex, yacc, xml, data structures, date/time libraries and
    • eposix which aims to provide a a 100% complete Eiffel binding to Standard C and POSIX.

    Eiffel has come a long way over the years. Misconceptions still abound. You can now develop multiplatform applications using open source Eiffel tools and libraries. There are small hurdles to jump as there are with anything. Give it a try and become involved if there is something about Eiffel which you find appealing.

  10. Some generally unknown facts about Eiffel by name_already_in_use · · Score: 5, Informative

    Eiffel has been around for about 17 years, so a lot of people who used it a long time ago and haven't used it since moan about old problems with the language THAT SIMPLY DON'T APPLY MORE. Here is an up to date list of cool things about Eiffel:

    - Compilation is not so slow anymore.

    - It a full .NET language. Eiffel Software have made a Visual Studio plug-in, and EiffelStudio (previously EiffelBench, or EBench) can also be used to make .NET or non-.NET applications.

    - EiffelStudio is the IDE for creating Eiffel applications was COMPLETELY REWRITTEN a couple of years ago, so previous uses of EiffelBench won't recognise it anymore. The new studio is better in every respect and has the best class browsing facilities you will find in any IDE ANYWHERE (I'm not kidding).

    - EiffelStudio was written using Eiffel Software's Vision2 library - a 100% platform independent library meaning it is identical on Windows and *nix platforms. You can use Vision2 to make your own cross-platform interfaces with real ease.

    - The .NET implementation of Eiffel adds some programming mechanisms that are NOT available in Java, C#, C++. Namely these are multiple inheritance of classes, genericity (true generics), design by contract (pre- and post- conditions/assertation to improve software reliabilty and greatly ease the debugging process).

    - Eiffel Software provide a FREE version of EiffelStudio and Envision! (the .NET plug-in) from there web site.

    There's loads more to this language, but aint got time to talk about it, so just check it out yourself.

    --


    Rake Free + Mac Poker: CardCrusade
  11. Programming Environment for Eiffel by willamowius · · Score: 5, Informative

    For a nice IDE for Eiffel you should get the Eiffel extension for the SNiFF+ environment

    http://www.willamowius.de/eiffel.html

    There are free versions of SNiFF+ for projects up to 200 (?) classes which should be ok for starters.

  12. Re:what's it good for? by auntfloyd · · Score: 4, Informative

    and it's still one of only a few compilable languages (excepting gcj == java) that have a gc.

    There is nothing special about a "compilable language" (whatever that means) using GC. Lisp has been doing it for decades (and yes, most Lisp systems are native code compilers, such as CMUCL, Allegro, CormanLisp, SBCL, etc). Oberon-2 compilers use GC, including the open source OOC and Oberon System3 from ETH. Ada was designed such that GC could be implemented, but it rarely is. Many FP languages use GC, such as Haskell. Haskell compilers, such as GHC, NHC, and HBC all use GC.

    If you haven't gotten the point yet, there is nothing special about implementing languages using garbage collection, and furthermore, there was nothing innovative when Meyer decided to use it for Eiffel.