Mono Ships ASP.NET server

Miguel de Icaza writes "We have just released the new version of Mono the new version includes a working version of ASP.NET. The release includes a sample web server that "hosts" the ASP.NET runtime (it can be hosted anywhere, for instance in Apache, with mod_haydn). The web features of ASP.NET would not be very useful without the support of a backing database. The new version of Mono includes database providers for Oracle, MS SQL, Sybase, ODBC, OleDB, Gnome Data Access, SqLite, MySQL and of course, Postgres. The C# compiler is now 37% faster due to some nice optimizations on the JIT engine and in our class libraries. You can use it to develop GUI applications using Gtk#. Screenshots for mPhoto and the GUI debugger (which can debug both JITed apps and native applications). "

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?? Love it or Hate it ??

[flacco]

Still can't decide if I love it because it dilutes the strength of MS's .NET server initiative, or if I hate it because it reeks with the stench of Redmond.

Time for the crackers to come

[Ektanoor]

I believe that under such level of development, soon we will see the real juice of these new technologies. And, soon, we will see how they can whitstand against serious attacks, exploits and break-ins. The more foggy and loose ideology of .NET may bring a new golden era for hordes of black and grey hats. I wouldn't be admired that we will see a revival of the 80's soon. But, then, we had only hundreds. Today, "We are a Legion!..", can only sound as a joke... What will happen when .NET gets loose in the wild is completely unpredictable.

same problem exists with Sun

[g4dget]

In comparison, Sun has granted the Apache and all open source developers FULL access to the specs, test kits and granted the full rights to develop competing products under the JSPA

There are so many things wrong with that that it's hard to know where to begin:

• A bunch of web pages do not constitute a legally binding contract.
• It is rather unclear what exactly the extent is to which these promises would open up Java.
• For an open language standard, it is insufficient only to open up the standard to open source implementations.

Sun has renegged on several previous promises regarding Java: they failed to go through with standardization, twice, and they failed to deliver lots of functionality that they promised (e.g., value classes).

If Sun wanted to open up Java, they would go through a standardization process, identify all the relevant patents in question, and make a legally binding commitment as part of the standards process. Instead, we are just getting fuzzy promises while Sun keeps filing Java-related patents.

As far as I'm concerned, both Sun and Microsoft are greedy and untrustworthy, and the open source community would be foolish to throw their lot in with either company.

Someone tell me: What's the big deal?

[Qbertino]

I really don't understand this. I'm not a biassed fight tooth and nail OSS freak but this stuff seems just soooo lame.
ASP sucks. Period. It has sucked, it sux and it probably allways will suck. This .Net thing seems to me more like a joke than anything else. I know NOBODY exept one (and check they Site to see they can't even do valid HTML -> www.q-in-media.de ) in the industry actually using it - but then again that might be a different story in the US. So at least M$ wants us across the pond to believe.
It costs a zillion Euros, isn't even plattformindependent and, well ok, Mono is it's OSS counterpart and probably gonna be something usefull in the future. But what is the big deal?
Understand me:
I'm currently doing a little Python project. Python seems to be a very cool PL. It's interpreted, OOP, GPLd, runs on just about anything that runs on electricity, has TKs for all major OSes and, shure enough, it works! And it cost me nada.
There's an OSS Appserver done with it called Zope that comes with a Webinterface for all your servicing needs, sort of installs in 2 minutes on any given OS (4 minutes if you're of the not-so-savy type) and suits 99% of all Inet related Tasks that you might ever want to do.
Anything else I can get Java and a zillion OSS things, from JBoss to Cocoon, for it or I pick C++ for speed in 3D and grafical stuff.
Now once again I ask: Please someone tell me what's the big deal of all this crap?

Re:/home/linuxuser$ mint myapp.exe

[Oo.et.oO]

Mod this crap DOWN. wtf?

this is not the forum for this and miguel should be ashamed for posting a reply. take it to ximian bugzilla or the mailing list.

Re:ASP or ASP.NET

[Tablizer]

Yeah, it's more like ASP.NET == ASP v2

My understanding is that ASP.NET is not backward compatible with ASP. They have different "escape" tags so that you can perhaps mix ASP and ASP.NET, but as different parts of a script/web-page. I have not actually tried it yet.