Mono Ships ASP.NET server
Miguel de Icaza writes "We have just released the new version of Mono the new version includes a working version of ASP.NET. The release includes a sample web server that "hosts" the ASP.NET runtime (it can be hosted anywhere, for instance in Apache, with mod_haydn). The web features of ASP.NET would not be very useful without the support of a backing database. The new version of Mono includes database providers for Oracle, MS SQL, Sybase, ODBC, OleDB, Gnome Data Access, SqLite, MySQL and of course, Postgres. The C# compiler is now 37% faster due to some nice optimizations on the JIT engine and in our class libraries. You can use it to develop GUI applications using Gtk#. Screenshots for mPhoto and the GUI debugger (which can debug both JITed apps and native applications). "
first post, biatches! Give it up for Houston Red heads!!!
I am fat and have acne.
Still can't decide if I love it because it dilutes the strength of MS's .NET server initiative, or if I hate it because it reeks with the stench of Redmond.
pr0n - keeping monitor glass spotless since 1981.
The Mono project and Parrot project began at roughly the same time - and look at all the things Parrot has that Mono doesn't: a "life" sample program as well as mops.pasm. Object support and threads are just overrated! I want raw VM speed at all costs - even if I can't run any real-world applications. Perhaps by next year Parrot will even have working exceptions. Parrot in 2010 WooHoo!!
Now where can I get me one of them free money Perl6 grants?
... that Germans love David Hasselhoff.
jchristopher,
Could you explain how you get your buttcheeks so far apart?
Thank you.
Forum. Messages such as 'Why GConf' and 'GNOME Armageddon'.
(It was meant to reflect the GNOMESUPPORT.ORG forum)
here, here and here
First I was a bit
sceptic while reading them but I quickly found out that the writers of these
Messages are totally right in many of their points. This encouraged me to start
the 'GNOME Resistance' because of the ugly attitute of some people here on this
Forum. As many of you probably read - some people have tried to ask and point
out, why they don't like the GConf Registry mechanism by writing some feedback
but people like Iain Holmes (One of the major GNOME contributors) was as
usually able to turn the good Thread into some worthless object by turning
facts, by not listening to users, by ignoring facts and by staying hardheaded
and narrowminded. He also wrote that one of the writers is the ONLY one that
doesn't like GConf but that's definately and prooven not the case. At the end
the Thread got locked because the Forum maintainer was disagreeing as well.
This really confirms what's written in the Armageddon text. Unforunately I have
seen such behaviours on many other Forums, in the IRC-Channel and on
Mailinglists. The developers of GNOME don't give their users a chance to
explain their concerns because it usually ends in flames. It's happening over
and over again. What options do we user actually have ? We are only allowed to
bravely write bugreports to GNOME to help their companies getting all bugs
fixed as quickly as possible. For these tasks we are good enough but as soon as
we want to discuss some serious things, the comments are being ignored. We
can't even contribute one serious comment how we users like to see GNOME if we
don't agree with the developers then we are trolls. We are getting already
decided things thrown infront of our faces that we should report bugs for but
comments are not welcome.
If we start some serious feedback on the only few places we could do it then
our feedback will turn into flames, get Modded down or they get Locked. What
do you people think about all this ? We have absolutely no other possibilities
than writing what we think. If even this isn't allowed then the only solution
for us people is to FIGHT BACK. Comments are not welcome, feedback is not
welcome, we can't even convince the developers because they don't like to
accept compromises.
This encourages me to call all people outside that made the same experience to
stand up and FIGHT BACK, what do we people lose ? We are getting ignored
anyways. Stand up and make GNOME look bad in the public, that's what actually
GNOME is. GNOME 2 had a lot of weird changes that probably will not get changed
with GNOME 2.2 or any future versions. Let's face the truth as much as we wish
things to change, as much as we belive that things will settle down - it's an
illusion. The GNOME that we all liked is no more. Some things with GNOME 2 went
for the better but a lot of stuff went bad.
Thanks for all the development GNOME developers but for me it is no more. I
hope that enough people have the courage to stand up and hit hard back. I know
this all sounds unfair and trollish but what you do to us is unfair too so I
can't see any big difference here.
goddamn, would people PLEASE STOP with the STUPID ASS "IN SOVIET RUSSIA" POSTS..
it was funny the first 1309190349031 fucking times.
*sigh*. ok, carry on
"Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?"
I believe that under such level of development, soon we will see the real juice of these new technologies. And, soon, we will see how they can whitstand against serious attacks, exploits and break-ins. The more foggy and loose ideology of .NET may bring a new golden era for hordes of black and grey hats. I wouldn't be admired that we will see a revival of the 80's soon. But, then, we had only hundreds. Today, "We are a Legion!..", can only sound as a joke... What will happen when .NET gets loose in the wild is completely unpredictable.
There are so many things wrong with that that it's hard to know where to begin:
Sun has renegged on several previous promises regarding Java: they failed to go through with standardization, twice, and they failed to deliver lots of functionality that they promised (e.g., value classes).
If Sun wanted to open up Java, they would go through a standardization process, identify all the relevant patents in question, and make a legally binding commitment as part of the standards process. Instead, we are just getting fuzzy promises while Sun keeps filing Java-related patents.
As far as I'm concerned, both Sun and Microsoft are greedy and untrustworthy, and the open source community would be foolish to throw their lot in with either company.
Hate to spoil it for ya, but Microsoft and Mono are allies. Microsoft wants .NET spread to the unix platforms while .NET servers are used exclusively for all the palladium and such that you mistakenly think Mono circumvents. The only way to 'beat' Microsoft is to completely replace their system. Ser vers, services, and all. I do appreciate Mono's effort to create a new implimentation of MSs CLI and stuff. And i can't wait to be able to run Banzai Buddy on both linux AND windows ;)
.NET replacement, check out http://dotgnu.org
For a complete
I really don't understand this. I'm not a biassed fight tooth and nail OSS freak but this stuff seems just soooo lame. .Net thing seems to me more like a joke than anything else. I know NOBODY exept one (and check they Site to see they can't even do valid HTML -> www.q-in-media.de ) in the industry actually using it - but then again that might be a different story in the US. So at least M$ wants us across the pond to believe.
ASP sucks. Period. It has sucked, it sux and it probably allways will suck. This
It costs a zillion Euros, isn't even plattformindependent and, well ok, Mono is it's OSS counterpart and probably gonna be something usefull in the future. But what is the big deal?
Understand me:
I'm currently doing a little Python project. Python seems to be a very cool PL. It's interpreted, OOP, GPLd, runs on just about anything that runs on electricity, has TKs for all major OSes and, shure enough, it works! And it cost me nada.
There's an OSS Appserver done with it called Zope that comes with a Webinterface for all your servicing needs, sort of installs in 2 minutes on any given OS (4 minutes if you're of the not-so-savy type) and suits 99% of all Inet related Tasks that you might ever want to do.
Anything else I can get Java and a zillion OSS things, from JBoss to Cocoon, for it or I pick C++ for speed in 3D and grafical stuff.
Now once again I ask: Please someone tell me what's the big deal of all this crap?
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Mod this crap DOWN. wtf?
this is not the forum for this and miguel should be ashamed for posting a reply. take it to ximian bugzilla or the mailing list.
Yeah, it's more like ASP.NET == ASP v2
My understanding is that ASP.NET is not backward compatible with ASP. They have different "escape" tags so that you can perhaps mix ASP and ASP.NET, but as different parts of a script/web-page. I have not actually tried it yet.
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