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Will Your CD Player Tell on You?
An anonymous reader writes "Ever feel like not being a marketing statistic? Well just by playing certain store-bought compact discs in your home or office computer, your new music disc may be transmitting your listening habits in real time to the respective record company...." Charming. Read on for more...
Anonymous Continues: "A company by the name of Bandlink is providing technology to record companies that allows a cd played in a personal computer to contact their server and relate statistics such as what track you're listening to and when you're listening to them. This information is then compiled into customizable reports that allow the record company to develop "User Profiles". There are benefits listed for the consumer such as cd-specific chatrooms, concert information, etc but the question remains: What's your price for privacy? The only indication that the cd you're purchasing is Bandlink "enabled/disabled" is a small logo on the packaging. There is no mention of a opt in/opt out agreement when the cd is inserted on the website and none was displayed in a personal demonstration.
Favorite quote from their website: "Virtually any information you want to know about your fan or the quality of your release can be obtained.""
Haha, early enough post!
Yiff! Yiff! *squeak*
tl;dr
I think your putting a little too much thought into the soviet russia thing.
There's a growing sense that even if The Future comes,
most of us won't be able to afford it.
-- Lemmy
OWNED
I feel guilty every time I boot Windows
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:26:33 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0007)
Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
access. Hi.
I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
"Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
(This is CP0007)
I am a "Soviet Russia" Troll Blacklist. Please subscribe to me. Thanks.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:10:38 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0031)
If he's not a real person (craig?), then he's doing a good job of hiding it. If I had a geographical breakdown of known USian trolls, then I could assure myself that it wasn't one of them and therefore someone unique.
On the topic of vladinator:
"as far as VLADINATOR is concerned there is a story behind that, but i am still in the process of putting all the details together but the story will be told. i dont REALLY think that he is a communist i just like to say that because it bugs him. but there is a REASON for the fued and i'll be revealing it."
Which just sounds like he's dicking around with vlad. But in the other emails, the tone changes to "and do not listen to vladinator, there is no telling what he might do." and "but DO NOT listen to vladinator!! the man is pure evil"
When I myself (with gbd's permission) dicked around with Vlad for trying to steal gbd's account by successfully impersonating gbd to Vlad (just to confuse Vlad, mostly), gbd replied:
"actually this is going to sound SILLY but could you let vladinator know that you're just joking and are not really me (george), i plan on explaining things better here in the NEAR FUTURE but that will only work with things as HONEST as POSSIBLE."
which sounds like it'll be fun.
On the subject of "the trolls", gbd said:
"anyway please don't give this mail address out to the trolls, like i said earlier i DON'T want them flooding me with spam and stuff which is why i am trying to do this as PRIVATE as i possibly can"
which as I've said, I'm respecting.
If anyone has any questions for him, I could probably put them to him.
rev <hanales@hotmail.com> wrote:
>So are you saying that gbd is a real person?
>You must share some of his insights (without revealing his address of
>course)
(This is CP0031)
From: Ceee Peee
/ 1/3/22048/19424&mode=mod
0 /10/08/stifgneur01002.html). Lots of potential, and ideas are welcome. (I already have a link to a story about an Egyptian sacrificial ram chasing its owner off a roof.)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] you know the drill
Date sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0011)
Gimme some juice:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001
erate
Actually, it's bound to get modded up on its own because: 1) it's controversial but hardly a troll 2) it conforms to k5 groupthink as a topic for discussion and 3) it has jsm's blessing, something none of Anne Marie's previous submissions ever had. The only thing it has going against it is an annoying misspelling of "K/Clan" in KKK for good measure.
Mostly, I'm just cleansing the k5 pallate for tomorrow's big troll submission: Switzerland has a referendum to give animals human rights (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/200
(This is CP0011)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Last day at work
Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:28:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0008)
Heh, you showed more sense than I. The last time I
tried pulling a stunt like that (revealing such
affections), the object of my affection nearly drove
off the road and into some parked cars. Everything's
still fine between us, but there were those few
fleeting moments involving a high-speed vehicle and
several tons of steel which wouldn't have worked so well.
(This is CP0008)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:10:38 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0031)
If he's not a real person (craig?), then he's doing a good job of hiding it. If I had a geographical breakdown of known USian trolls, then I could assure myself that it wasn't one of them and therefore someone unique.
On the topic of vladinator:
"as far as VLADINATOR is concerned there is a story behind that, but i am still in the process of putting all the details together but the story will be told. i dont REALLY think that he is a communist i just like to say that because it bugs him. but there is a REASON for the fued and i'll be revealing it."
Which just sounds like he's dicking around with vlad. But in the other emails, the tone changes to "and do not listen to vladinator, there is no telling what he might do." and "but DO NOT listen to vladinator!! the man is pure evil"
When I myself (with gbd's permission) dicked around with Vlad for trying to steal gbd's account by successfully impersonating gbd to Vlad (just to confuse Vlad, mostly), gbd replied:
"actually this is going to sound SILLY but could you let vladinator know that you're just joking and are not really me (george), i plan on explaining things better here in the NEAR FUTURE but that will only work with things as HONEST as POSSIBLE."
which sounds like it'll be fun.
On the subject of "the trolls", gbd said:
"anyway please don't give this mail address out to the trolls, like i said earlier i DON'T want them flooding me with spam and stuff which is why i am trying to do this as PRIVATE as i possibly can"
which as I've said, I'm respecting.
If anyone has any questions for him, I could probably put them to him.
rev <hanales@hotmail.com> wrote:
>So are you saying that gbd is a real person?
>You must share some of his insights (without revealing his address of
>course)
(This is CP0031)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
Date sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:26:33 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0007)
Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
access. Hi.
I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
"Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
(This is CP0007)
From: Ceee Peee
0 /12/20/01446/325).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Sorry about that, all
Date sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:51:12 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0006)
Demonstrating poor judgment on my part, I lobbed
another at the k5 queue
(http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=200
It's not half as big a troll as the last one, but,
well, I guess people are still angry about the last
one. Let's just say the only thing geeks defend more
than their porn is their smokes.
JSM, I'm disappointed you didn't show some guts and
just mod it down. Have I pissed enough in your
swimming pool yet? Heck, they're slandering you in
there, equating the two of us. Even rusty's annoyed,
and he has a sense of humor (though his reasoning
isn't so hot).
I think I'll leave k5 alone for a while. I'm leaving
town in two days and won't be back for a couple weeks,
though I'll have net access in between. Maybe when I
get back, I'll have developed some maturity. 'Night,
all.
(This is CP0006)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:03:43 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0032)
Aren't you still doing the Arkansas thing? Doesn't jive....
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>Shut up, WILLIAM HENRY GATES. How does STEVE BALMER'S
>SEMEN taste??? Do you enjoy that AIDS-INFESTED JISM as you
>MASTURBATE to PHOTOGRAPHS of YOUNG CHILDREN?
>
>On 27 Oct 00, at 14:22, rev wrote:
>
>> I knew you were gdb you bastard!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>> To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
>>
>>
>> > You should try MAXIMUM LINUX. It has MAE LING MAK. There's
>> > a picture of her in every issue wearing nothing but a VAIO! And the
>> > VAIO runs Linux! 'Cept she can't get the sound to work.
>> >
>> > MAE LING MAK is a SECURITY EXPERT. She wrote a
>> > SECURITY ARTICLE for MAXIMUM LINUX about ADVANCED
>> > SECURITY. She suggested that you PROTECT your e-mail from
>> > HACKERS, you do this:
>> >
>> > alias pine='blahblahblah'
>> > alias foo='pine'
>> >
>> > If you do this ADVANCED SECURITY stuff, an EVIL HACKER who
>> > breaks into your account an tries to read your e-mail with PINE will
>> > get an error when he types "pine", not knowing that to get into PINE,
>> > he ACTUALLY has to type "foo"! But MAE LING MAK knows, so SHE can
>> > read her e-mail but the EVIL HACKERS can't.
>> >
>> > Isn't MAE LING MAK smart? I like her ass the best.
>> >
>> > Also, you need to GO READ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
>> >
>> > You don't not understand the BASIC CONCEPTS of FREE
>> > SOFTWARE. You don't understand the difference between
>> > PHYSICAL VALUE and INTELLECTUAL VALUE. A MAGAZINE
>> > has physical value, it costs MONEY to COPY and DISTRIBUTE. It
>> > exists as a PHYSICAL OBJECT, therefore it has PHYSICAL
>> > VALUE. SOFTWARE does not. It can be COPIED and
>> > DISTRIBUTED for FREE. Some EVIL SOCIALIST SOFTWARE
>> > COMPANIES try to CHARGE for software ANYWAY, and place
>> > RESTRICTIONS on the user's RIGHT to USE, and DISTRIBUTE it!
>> > They assign INTELLECTUAL VALUE to the software. This is
>> > morally WRONG. Get it RIGHT, fsckwit.
>> >
>> > Also, you're using MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EXPRESS, which
>> > proves you're STUPID.
>> >
>> > You can't compare a MAGAZINE to SOFTWARE, just like you
>> > can't compare YOUR MOTHER to a FEMALE. They're completely
>> > different things.
>> >
>> > SUCK IT DOWN AND CHOKE ON IT, AND DIE. SUCK IT DOWN
>> > AND CHOKE ON IT. SUCK IT DOWN. SUCK IT. SUCK. I'LL
>> > BURN YOU ALL ALIVE. I'LL BURN YOU ALL. I'LL BURN YOU.
>> > BURN YOU ALL. BURN YOU. BURN. BURN. BURN.
>> > BURNING. BURNING. BURNING BURNING FIRE. DEATH AND
>> > PAIN AND FIRE.
(This is CP0032)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
From: cptroll
:)/ 30/5377/2018&pid=60#66
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Nice on jsm
Date sent: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:07:10 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0038)
Hmmm. In this case, is the correct course of action to mod them both up
to 5? Jsm just because, and trhurler in order to make him even more
self-righteous and egg him on? Or would it be more effective just to mod
jsm up and leave trhurler at none and make him cry favoritism?
Trhurler is one bitter fuck. On any given story, you can find him voting
-1. And his diaries, too.
James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
>Keep us the good work winding trhurler up on k5, immensely amusing
>watching him slowly getting more and more outraged at you
>
>http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/11
>
>Funny as hell.
>
>J
(This is CP0038)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
From: Ceee Peee
/ 1/3/22048/19424&mode=mod
0 /10/08/stifgneur01002.html). Lots of potential, and ideas are welcome. (I already have a link to a story about an Egyptian sacrificial ram chasing its owner off a roof.)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] you know the drill
Date sent: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0011)
Gimme some juice:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001
erate
Actually, it's bound to get modded up on its own because: 1) it's controversial but hardly a troll 2) it conforms to k5 groupthink as a topic for discussion and 3) it has jsm's blessing, something none of Anne Marie's previous submissions ever had. The only thing it has going against it is an annoying misspelling of "K/Clan" in KKK for good measure.
Mostly, I'm just cleansing the k5 pallate for tomorrow's big troll submission: Switzerland has a referendum to give animals human rights (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/200
(This is CP0011)
From: cptroll
:) [9:42:26 p] <Maarken> did Inoshiro say his nickname for his :) [9:52:43 p] <ugly13f> so you ar ehackers??? [9:52:55 p] :(((
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why k5 is scary
Date sent: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:07:45 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0039)
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>So, being bored tonight, I decided to play around with k5. It's nothing
>really noteworthy - I was pretending to be a stupid 13 year old girl
>(13/f/pakistan) in k5 and asking lots of dumb questions.
Lies, all of it. I was there, and all lb did was solicit sex chat in a real high drunk squeaky voice (which was hard to convey on IRC, but you et the idea). In fact, none of it looked at all like this:
Session Start: Wed Nov 29 21:31:38 2000
[9:31:45 p] <Maarken> I doubt that'd going to help much.
[9:31:52 p] <Maarken> see what I mean?
[9:32:4 p] <ugly13f> its okay its kind of funny
[9:32:10 p] <Maarken> really?
[9:32:27 p] <Maarken> anyway, if you really want somthing answered, let me
know. [9:32:27 p] <ugly13f> they kept asking me for my picture !! [9:32:43
p] <ugly13f> thanks !! [9:32:45 p] <Maarken> well, it would be nice to
know who we're talking to. [9:35:51 p] <Maarken> think of them as a group
of adults that don't like children. the only way to become accepted is to
grow up. in this case, age=knowledge. [9:39:38 p] <Maarken> my, you sure
are silent. [9:39:52 p] <ugly13f> i think inoshiro knows my brother!!
[9:40:8 p] <Maarken> who's your brother? [9:40:23 p] <Maarken> make0?
[9:40:25 p] <ugly13f> he said his name [9:40:29 p] <ugly13f> no! [9:41:4
p] <Maarken> what's his name? [9:41:39 p] <ugly13f> im not supposed to
talk about that stuff!! [9:41:45 p] <Maarken> shaw? [9:41:58 p] <ugly13f>
no [9:41:58 p] <Maarken> wargwolf? [9:42:4 p] <ugly13f> lol no [9:42:6 p]
<Maarken>
realname? [9:42:34 p] <ugly13f> his first name !! [9:42:47 p] <Maarken>
and you know, it's ok to his your brothers first name. [9:42:55 p]
<Maarken> Mine's Eric. How that? [9:43:7 p] <ugly13f> i dont know if he
really knows him or if he found it!! [9:43:45 p] <Maarken> what is it?
I'll know if he knows them or not. [9:43:49 p] <Maarken> we're friends.
[9:44:13 p] <ugly13f> he said chris ~~ [9:44:45 p] <Maarken> ah, then.
No, he found it. on philber.org I'd bet. [9:45:5 p] <ugly13f> whats that
!! [9:45:42 p] <Maarken> what IRC client are you using? I can tell you
where to look to explain it. [9:45:52 p] <ugly13f> i dont know !! [9:46:5
p] <Maarken> are you in windows? [9:47:9 p] <ugly13f> no im using his
thing [9:47:14 p] <ugly13f> its really hard to read !! [9:47:35 p] ->
[ugly13f] VERSION [9:47:54 p] <Maarken> I think you're in NetBSD. Cool.
[9:49:3 p] <ugly13f> that sounds okay [9:49:31 p] <Maarken> well, [snip]
is the hostname that you're connecting from. [9:49:39 p] <Maarken> and it
has a website. [9:49:49 p] <Maarken> that i guess mentioned Chris [9:49:58
p] <ugly13f> okay [9:50:37 p] <Maarken> by the way, kuro5hin isn't a
snowboarder channel. it goes with the website www.kuro5hin.org [9:51:44
p] <ugly13f> oh so k5 isnt snowboards?? [9:52:7 p] <Maarken> nope. it's
deep technical stuff about computers. [9:52:16 p] <Maarken> and whatever
pops up.
<Maarken> depends what you mean by "hacker". [9:53:17 p] <Maarken> do we
break into computers? no. are we *very* knowledgable about them? yes.
[9:53:37 p] <ugly13f> so you dont put viruses on computers?? [9:53:41 p]
<Maarken> no! [9:53:53 p] <Maarken> and if I were you, I wouldn't call
them hackers. [9:54:11 p] <ugly13f> why not [9:54:44 p] <Maarken> because
they'll think you mean "cracker" which means to break into computers, and
they'll get really mad. [9:55:7 p] <ugly13f> i thought thats what you call
white people lol [9:55:22 p] <ugly13f> lol inoshiro keeps spelling fuck
wrong!! [9:55:50 p] <Maarken> no, fsck is the linux command to make sure
your computer is ok, but it's become a geek swear. [9:56:38 p] <Maarken>
because it *looks* like fuck, but it's not frowned open because most
people don't understand. [9:56:55 p] <ugly13f> lol! [9:57:30 p] <ugly13f>
im hungry:(( [9:57:37 p] <Maarken> eat. [9:58:12 p] <ugly13f> so why do
you fuck your computers instead of naming it something else?? [9:58:39 p]
<Maarken> it's FileSystemChecK [9:58:46 p] <Maarken> hence, fsck [9:59:20
p] <ugly13f> dont people get confused ??? [9:59:31 p] <Maarken> not
really. [9:59:40 p] <Maarken> it's a context thing. [10:0:7 p] <ugly13f>
why not just fsc?? just to be rude??? [10:0:21 p] <Maarken> if you
complain about having to fsck your linux machine, they know you mean check
it's filesystem. if you say "FSCK!" then you're swearing. [10:0:37 p]
<Maarken> it's just what they guy named the command [10:1:0 p] <ugly13f>
he was probaly a pervert!! lol!! [10:1:18 p] <Maarken> maybe he just had a
sense of humor? [10:2:20 p] <ugly13f> not a very good one!! lol!! [10:3:1
p] <Maarken> most geeks think it's funny. [10:3:9 p] <Maarken> or atleast
amusing. [10:6:17 p] <Maarken> you know, I've tryed to be helpful, but I
think you're being lame for a reason. [10:6:35 p] <ugly13f> youre lame not
me!! [10:6:46 p] <ugly13f> lol! [10:6:51 p] <Maarken> <sigh> I'm done
here. [10:7:33 p] <Maarken> I think I'll show the rest of the guys this
log, so they know how lame you are. [10:7:35 p] <ugly13f> whyd you call me
lame??? [10:7:40 p] <Maarken> because you are? [10:7:45 p] <Maarken>
that'd be a good reason. [10:8:15 p] <ugly13f> you said you wouldnt tell
who my brother is!! [10:8:35 p] <Maarken> they know. [10:8:47 p] <Maarken>
Inoshiro said it. [10:9:30 p] <ugly13f> im sorry
later:
[10:11:28 p] <ugly13f> said you weren't hackers!!
[10:11:35 p] <Maarken> we aren't.
[10:11:43 p] <ugly13f> inoshiro just said my address!!!
[10:12:8 p] <Maarken> street address?
[10:12:17 p] <ugly13f> yes
[10:12:46 p] <Maarken> sure, it's
[snip]
[10:13:6 p] <Maarken> common knowledge.
[10:13:9 p] <ugly13f> What are you doing???
[10:13:17 p] <Maarken> heh
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[luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations .. :) .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble. ... :\/ 674/65#65 ;)3 .net) has joined #adequacy ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers ;)t ml :-) :-) :-) lol ;P
[luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
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[county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
[luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
[luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
[luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
[Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
[county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
[county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
[Linux] shouting and threatening tones
[Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
[county] What bust?
[Linux] dunno
[Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
[county] Who?
[Linux] maybe there will be death
[Linux] cops
[Linux] many of them
[Linux] 8 cars at least
[luisa|||] eek
[Linux] maybe I'll get shot
[county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
[Linux] yes
[Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
[luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
[luisa|||] it would all work out
[Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
[luisa|||] wait
[luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
[luisa|||] that is Not Right.
[Linux] i think so
* luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
[county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
[Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
[county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
[county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
[luisa|||] you could be inferior
[luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
[luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
[county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
[county] Come on.
[luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
[luisa|||] nah, you are just different
[luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
[luisa|||] that's inferior
[luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
[Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
[county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
[luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
[luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
[em] you guys still going on about this? God.
[county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
[luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
[luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
[em] neither am I.
[luisa|||] but you are at uni
[county] em, have you been drinking?
[em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
[em] county: not a drop
[em] maybe I should.
[county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
[luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
[luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
[luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
[county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
[county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
[luisa|||] if you feel that you are
[luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
[luisa|||] but i just finished supper
* em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
[luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
[Linux] katsup is a vegetable
[luisa|||] only for bachelors
[luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
[county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
[luisa|||] okbed
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[Linux] night, wheesie
[Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
[county] Oh, I'm sure.
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[Marco`] Hi
[Marco`] Anyone alive?
* Marco` 's off
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[me0w] g'morning
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[bc] hello
[me0w] Hi bc
[bc] hellow me0wsy
* bc was just in the pub
[bc] and you know what?
[me0w] What?
[bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
[bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
[me0w] Ahhh
[bc] certainly not
[me0w] Well done!
[bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
[bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
[bc] cool
[bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
[me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
[bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
[bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
* bc has some prawns
[me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
[bc] hehe
[me0w] cast = vast
[bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
[me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem
[bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
[me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
[bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
[me0w] And the licking
[bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
[me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
[me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
[bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
[bc] mm that was tasty
[bc] post-prandial smoke time
[me0w] enjoy
* bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
[bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
[bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
[me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
[bc] it's supposed to be decent.
[bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
[me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
[bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
[me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
[bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
[bc] they discover an alien signal
[bc] this woman does
[bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
[bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
[bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
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[bc] hey ct
[me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
[bc] el capitano
[Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
[Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
* Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
[bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] I am not admirably offensive
* Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
[me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
[Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
[Captain_Tenille] Yawn
[Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
[Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
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[me0w] they leave so quickly
[bc] yes
[me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
[bc] Catch 22 then
[bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it
[me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
[me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
[me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
[bc] hehe
* bc is writing a ranty comment
[me0w] Will it be exciting?
[bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
[bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
[bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
[me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
[bc] yay
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there you go me0w
[me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
[bc] woohoo!
[bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
[bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
[bc] infinitera is a twat
[me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
[bc] it's possible
[me0w] For some anyway
[me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
[bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
[bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
[bc] it's all just a laugh
[me0w] It is all for my amusement
[bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
[me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
[bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
[me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
[bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
[me0w] Brilliant!
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[bc] hi, gurrrrl
[gurl] hullo, you
[me0w] Hello
[gurl] christ i overslept
[bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
[gurl] twelve thirty
[bc] damn firemen
[bc] striking bastards, is what they are
[bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
[me0w] That isn't good.
[me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
[bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
[bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
[bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
[me0w] 21,000 is far too little
[bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
[bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
[bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
[bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
[me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
[me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
[bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
[bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
[bc] policemen £17,000
[me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
[me0w] The train people should get less.
[bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
[bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
[bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
[me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more
[bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
[gurl] er, no.
[bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
[gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
[bc] they'd pay fairly
[gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
[me0w] nurses are underpaid
[gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
[bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
[me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
[gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
[gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
[gurl] not everyone can hack it
[gurl] thus, the shortage
[bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
[bc] where they get paid decently
[me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
[bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
[gurl] haha
[gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
[gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
[gurl] well, the countries in that region
[bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
[gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
[bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
[gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
[bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
[bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
[gurl] for a bed
[bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
[bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
[bc] that thing was great
[bc] prolly quite cheap, too
[gurl] i just want a futon
[bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
[me0w] Get a sturdy futon
[me0w] Over time the frame can bend
[gurl] i was thinking a metal one
[me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
[bc] cool
* bc watches Only Fools and Horses
[gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
[gurl] and buy a new mattress
[bc] heh. Sounds good
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[gurl] it's a gorgeous day
[gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
[bc] I love that
[bc] cold and clear
[bc] and sunny
[bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
[bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
[gurl] he friend zoned me
[bc] ah hah
[bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
[gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
[bc] well that's something at least
[bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
[gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
[bc] oh splendid
[gurl] haha
[gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
[bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
[bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
[gurl] it is terribly intensive
[bc] yes
[bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
[gurl] and no girls allowed!
[bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
[bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
[bc] they are insane
[bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
[bc] quite sadistic
[gurl] haha
[gurl] there's a kill house?!
[bc] they are special forces
[bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
[bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
[bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
[gurl] lordy
[bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
[bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
[bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
[bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.h
[bc] ^that was mad
[bc] I remember watching it on tv
[gurl] so the sas do it properlike
[gurl] well, more like people think such things work
[bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
[bc] it's sort of amazing
[bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
[bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
[bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
[bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
[bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
[bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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[gurl] damn
[bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
[gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
[bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
[Captain_Tenille] SAS?
[bc] yes
[gurl] british special forces
[Captain_Tenille] Aha
* Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
[bc] hehe
[Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
[Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
[bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
[bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
[Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
[gurl] heh
[bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
[gurl] haha
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[gurl] oh look@
[gurl] er, nevermind
[Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
[bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
[Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
[bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
[bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
[bc] but SAS are teh best!
[gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
[Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
[Captain_Tenille] ?
[bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
[bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
[bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
[bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
[Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
[Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
* Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
[bc] coo
[gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
[bc] haha
[bc] what'd he do?
[gurl] his warrant caught up to him
[bc] damn
[gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
[Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
[county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
[bc] he deserves it, county
[bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
[county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
[bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
[gurl] bc, he found a job
[gurl] and now he will lose it
[gurl] because of extended absence
[bc] damn it
[bc] what's he fined for?
[Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
[bc] isn't that classified, ct?
[Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
[gurl] speeding ticket, i think
[Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
[Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
[zuul] he is not
[bc] but he was army, eh? mad
[Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
[gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
[Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
[Captain_Tenille] er, he
[county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
[county] He's trying to turn is life around!
[county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
[bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
[county] Good man.
[county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
[gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
[county] But you're too old for that.
[bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
[gurl] yeah, pretty much
[gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
[county] And she wants more.
[gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
[gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
[bc] weird, gurl
[gurl] aye
[bc] weird weird weird
[gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
[county] So are you going to take her up on it?
[gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
[gurl] she is rather like mother
[gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
[county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
[gurl] not quite
[gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
[gurl] with a broken neck
[bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
[gurl] well, he is married
[gurl] and also i don't want him
[gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
[bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
[county] That's really harsh.
[bc] it's damned right, gurl
[county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
[bc] I'm proud of you!
[county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
[gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
[gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
[gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
[gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
[gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
[gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
[county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
[gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
[gurl] and makes piles of money
[gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
[county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
[county] That seems risky.
[gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
[county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
[county] Having one could be convenient.
[gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
[county] Some guys have all the luck.
[bc] hehe
[gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
[bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
[county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
[county] I'm tired of being responsible.
[bc] BRB, mobile shop
[gurl] have a beer
[gurl] actually, have five or six
[county] What's a mobile shop?
[county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
[gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
[gurl] women like to help men in that state
[county] Haha!
[county] What nonsense.
[county] Women hate drunks.
[gurl] depends on the drunk boy
[gurl] i find some of them endearing
[bc] damn it's cold
[county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
[county] What's a mobile shop, though?
[bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
[county] uh huh
[bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
[county] What sort of things?
[bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
[county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
[county] tsk tsk.
[bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
[county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
[county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
[bc] Yup.
[county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
[bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
[bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
[gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
[bc] poll? hmmn
[county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
[bc] favourite spirit?
[gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
[county] That would be all you can think of.
[bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
[bc] so it isn't surprising
[county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
[bc] it contains too much iron, or something
[county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
[wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
[bc] it's very very popular in russia though
[Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
[bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
[wsl3] What is?
[Captain_Tenille] Ah
[gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
[gurl] my tummy hurts now
[wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
[gurl] i don't see how
[gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
[wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
[gurl] i somehow doubt this.
[gurl] i love my diary.
[wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want!
[county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
[wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think.
[county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
[bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
[gurl] hehe
[wsl3] county: Uh huh.
[gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
[gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
[wsl3] Bingo!
* wsl3 is a FFA
[gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
[wsl3] LOL
[wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
[gurl] oh god
[county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
[gurl] i HATE those
[wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
[county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
[wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
[county] 300lbs.
[gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
[bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
[county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
[county] She's hyper-obese.
[wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
[gurl] no, that's a porker
[gurl] i don't know any.
[county] You don't know any!
[county] You're delusional.
[wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
[gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
[gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
[wsl3] gurl: Top size?
[gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
[wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
[gurl] well, men are less picky about that
[county] I'm not.
[county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
[gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
[gurl] unless they are very slim
[Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
[wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
[Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
[gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
[county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
[wsl3] under, yes.
[gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
[county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
* Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
[wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much.
[gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
[gurl] of course you do
* wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
[gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
[Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
[Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
[gurl] which is great for them
[gurl] hasta
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[bc] woohoo
[bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
[gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
[bc] happy hacking!
[gurl] well, that is true of anyone
[county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
[gurl] there is no hacking involved!
[county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
[gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
[county] If one isn't already.
[bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
[gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
[bc] with what, you say?
[bc] that sounds complicated
[gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
[county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
[bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
[gurl] yeah, i guess
[gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
[county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
[county] Chop chop!
[gurl] i have to finish my beer
[gurl]
[county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
[bc] I think you should go to the pub
*** gurl is now known as cdromgurl
[county] It's kind of dismal out.
[bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
[cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
[cdromgurl] wave
[bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
[bc] bye happy hackess!
[county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
[bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
[bc] go there
[wsl3] lol
[bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
[bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
[bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
[county] That's really far away.
[bc] get the metro then!
[county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
[bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
[bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
[bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
[county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
[county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
[wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
[county] Shut up.
[wsl3] no
[wsl3] You can forget about that.
[wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
[county] Shut up, really.
[wsl3] No.
[wsl3] really.
[bc] blargle
[wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
[bc] heis in London, that's all I know
[county] I'm going to go shower.
[county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
[county] "out"
[wsl3] ah
[bc] looking forward to it
[wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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[Sulla] hey momo
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Experiment in whoring...
Date sent: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:03:49 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0005)
It's good to see you making a go at it again, but I'm
confused as to why you're trying to whore up a
bitchslapped account, because no matter what your
karma is, you'll never stop defaulting to -1 (just ask
warren). Your only option would be to start a new
account -- "DMG" is still available....
James can answer you better than I, but Jon Erikson is
definitely not dead. I'm surprised to confirm that
there aren't any comments on his users.pl page, but I
guess this week belongs to Dan Hayes.
(This is CP0005)
From: Ceee Peee
_
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] the real anne marie stood up
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:20:23 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0017)
Please elaborate. For example, does that mean you're
lifting your k5 "no troll" ordinance?
--- John Montoya <johnsaulmontoya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Ceee Peee <cptroll@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > My intentions
> > and hopes aren't to destroy k5
>
> nahhh, fuck 'em.
>
> dd
>
> _________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
(This is CP0017)
From: Ceee Peee
/ 41541/13290&cid=8#8
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:01:38 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0015)
Any advice about what to do about this?:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2001/1/7
(outing anne marie as cp)
I'm just planning to ignore it as it's a score:2
editorial at the bottom of a submission that might not
get accepted anyway. But feel free to mod it down
some more if the mood strikes you. I can cope with
being publicly outed, but I'd rather avoid it all the same.
(This is CP0015)
From: cptroll
/. userbio to reflect it). As near as I can
/ 12/4/145812/319
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] cp, is this you?
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:04:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0001)
Nope. (I saw that diary this morning.) Anne Marie doesn't have a k5
account (and I've updated her
tell, it was registered by the same person who registered CmdrTaco on k5
-- at least the garbage on the user page is consistent between the two.
Anyone who wants to point out the inconsistencies is welcome (I'll
refrain). Do you suppose if I <b>harass rusty</b> he'll give me the 'Anne Marie'
account?... He is known to be troll-friendly....
For now, I only post on k5 under "cp", though I have a 3k-range account
I'm holding in reserve in case a low uid# is ever needed to win a penis
contest. Technically, "Trivia Contest" was mine since I'm the idiot who
started that idea (and it's wasted at least some of rusty's morning,
though in a pleasant educational fashion), but that one's out of my
control now. I'm exploring social-engineering options outside of the mere
LWM disinformation/flaming I'm accustomed to.
Luis Casillas <casillas@stanford.edu> wrote:
>You may need a k5 account to see this:
>
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=2000
>
>The fact that the account is "Ann_a_ Marie" seems to argue against
>it... Anyway, you were around for the original "Real Bruce Perens"
>stuff, right?
>
>--
>Luis Casillas
>Department of Linguistics
>Stanford University
(This is CP0001)
From: cptroll
/saving/ it for later, but that doesn't seem to be the case if you look at jamie's past articles -- they're all over the week). Alternatively, they're just saving it for a weekday where there's more traffic and more visibility.
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] how long do story submissions usually take?
Date sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0034)
The biggest possibility is that they're saving it for jamie to do some background research and write up a big article (more than just a blurb). That would seem likely, except you'd probably have heard from your friend about it, since he's the first one they'd contact (except if jamie doesn't work on weekends and they're actually
I once had a submission take more than a day to get rejected, but that was only because it first got accepted before eventually having that acceptance rescinded. I never did figure that one out.
I'm personally annoyed, because being as pathetic as I am, I actually got up early several times this morning to check the front page and make sure it hadn't been posted over night. I obviously care too damn much.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>It's been in the queue over 24 hours now, I think, not rejected yet. How
>long does this usually take? (In the past, my story suggestions usually
>get rejected right away.:)
>
>Maybe they're checking up on the facts.
>
>*waits for laughter to die down*
>
>Okay, but why is it taking so long? Do you think any of you who talk to
>rub & co could ask them to try and push the story through? I do have
>some personal interest in it, besides being decent troll fodder.
>
>-lb
(This is CP0034)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] gbd on #trolls
Date sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:06:25 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0004)
Right now, "gbd" is on #trolls. His host is
remarkably similar to momocrome's: gbd is
~gbd@adsl-63-200-62-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
(george), whereas momocrome is
~natalie_p@cloaked.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (MOMOCROME).
Yet, he's able to present compelling evidence that he
is the one who currently holds the "gbd" usernick on
slashdot, who I do consider to be the real gbd in
light of the circumstances surrounding how I gave him
the account. Gbd's address looks like it's from SF,
whereas momocrome's is from LA, so that would suggest
they're not the same. But does anyone else have a
pacbell.net address that we know?
(This is CP0004)
The chase is better the the catch.
.. Everybody!! .. C'mon!! Together!!
Transforming the tunes we need your support
if you've got the breath back.
It's the first page of the second chapter!
I want you back for the rhythm-attack coming down on the floor like a maniac.
I want you back for the rhythm-attack. Get down in full effect!
I want you back for the rhythm-attack coming down on the floor like a maniac.
I want you back so clean up the dish.
By the way, how much is the fish?!!
How much is the fish?!!
Here we go, here we go, here we go again!!
Yeeah!!
Sunshine in the air!!
We're breaking the rules. Ignore the machine.
You won't ever stop this.
The chase is better than the catch!
I want you back for the rhythm-attack coming down on the floor like a maniac.
I want you back for the rhythm-attack. Get down in full effect!
I want you back for the rhythm-attack coming down on the floor like a maniac.
I want you back so clean up the dish.
By the way, how much is the fish?!!
How much is the fish?!!
Yeeehaah!!
Sunshine in the air!!
C'mon!!!
Na na na na na na na na, na na na na na na na na
Na na na na na na na na, na na na na na na na na
Yeeaaah!!!
How much is the fish?!!
How much is the fish?!!
Yeeaaah!!!
C'mon, c'mon!! Aaaah!
Resurrection!
From: Ceee Peee
/. after a long series of trolls, it's time to whore [the queue] again.
/. ever was. My intentions and hopes aren't to destroy k5 but to become a watershed event in its history, fit to go into next year's year-in-review. Looks like I'm succeeding.
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] the real anne marie stood up
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:24:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0016)
Agreed, but I have to find better ones. As much as I liked the dementia-causes-popmusic-preference one, the k5 crowd just didn't care. Like on
One of these days I'm going to write an op/ed meta story called "Hi, I'm Anne Marie. You're all hypocrites." But I think I'll hold back, now.
BTW, the ktb=educatedescort cries are hilarious, at least to me. Soon, rusty'll have to change k5's motto to "Technology and culture from the trenches and stuff about Anne Marie". I'd feel remorse, but a) I like the attention and b) I give k5 more credit than that; it's more resilient than
--- jlb wrote:
> As those of you who are interested have probably
> already seen, the real
> anne marie has posted a story on k5 saying that
> she's not the AM account
> on k5 or slashdot. She apparently put something in
> the html source of her
> educatedescort site saying as much.
>
> My advice to cp: keep posting stories like nothing,
> at all, has changed.
>
> -lb
>
> --
> "Is this real?"
> "Does it matter?"
>
(This is CP0016)
From: cptroll
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] new blood.
Date sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:46:24 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0003)
Barry Corrigan is fine by me. We need some scottish blood.
>Would anyone object to Kiss the Blade joining (or at
>least being invited to join) the list?
>
>He has been posting some pretty nice stuff, and I have
>spoken to him on #trolls a number of times and he
>seems OK.
>
>++tlt
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
>or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
(This is CP0003)
From: "80md"
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Evil enemies of Liberty
Date sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:36:06 EST
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0035)
>From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>
>I've heard that outside the United States, those are the only five sports
> that exist (Soccer, Polo, Spooning, Curling, and Snuckers), and I don't
>even know what the HECK four of them are.
Well, it's easy to understand why they do these things: They're undernourished, because they don't have much food out there in all the poor countries. So the average foreigner is about four foot six, maybe five feet tops, and they weigh about eighty pounds. Their teeth tend to fall out, and their bones are brittle as hell because they don't have milk. That's because their "commissars" took all their cows away. So you see, these poor "Europeans" as they call themselves, and the "Canadians" and whatnot, all these people are frail weaklings. They have no knowledge of freedom either, because they don't have a Genesis Document guaranteeing their rights, and they're given to sodomy and other degenerate practices because they've never been exposed to Christianity. Christianity is banned in Europe, did you know that? It's true. The Socialists always ban religion when they seize power. Of course, the Europeans were never free to begin with, so they don't know any better. They've always been slaves. It's all the same to them.
So their poor diet, their atheism, their slavehood, and their homosexuality have robbed them of their strength and their manhood. Therefore, they play girl games like Snuckers, Privet, and Gloon. While we eat our peas for the souls in Purgatory, they HAVE no peas. They limply push a ball around a field, with no manly, bone-crunching collisions to build their flaccid
characters. Where even our most girlish pseudomen play tennis, they teach badminton to their soldiers.
>Man, we need to get rid of those other countries. They want to abolish
>our sports and force us to play homosexual female sports like Polo and
>Spooning, whatever they are.
It's sad, but true. In fact, we'd only be putting them out of
their misery. They'd thank us if they understood.
--
80md
"Harry Browne seems to think he knows me personally --
I get a letter from him every week asking for money."
-- Craig
(This is CP0035)
From: cptroll
:) [9:42:26 p] <Maarken> did Inoshiro say his nickname for his :) [9:52:43 p] <ugly13f> so you ar ehackers??? [9:52:55 p] :(((
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why k5 is scary
Date sent: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:07:45 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0039)
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>So, being bored tonight, I decided to play around with k5. It's nothing
>really noteworthy - I was pretending to be a stupid 13 year old girl
>(13/f/pakistan) in k5 and asking lots of dumb questions.
Lies, all of it. I was there, and all lb did was solicit sex chat in a real high drunk squeaky voice (which was hard to convey on IRC, but you et the idea). In fact, none of it looked at all like this:
Session Start: Wed Nov 29 21:31:38 2000
[9:31:45 p] <Maarken> I doubt that'd going to help much.
[9:31:52 p] <Maarken> see what I mean?
[9:32:4 p] <ugly13f> its okay its kind of funny
[9:32:10 p] <Maarken> really?
[9:32:27 p] <Maarken> anyway, if you really want somthing answered, let me
know. [9:32:27 p] <ugly13f> they kept asking me for my picture !! [9:32:43
p] <ugly13f> thanks !! [9:32:45 p] <Maarken> well, it would be nice to
know who we're talking to. [9:35:51 p] <Maarken> think of them as a group
of adults that don't like children. the only way to become accepted is to
grow up. in this case, age=knowledge. [9:39:38 p] <Maarken> my, you sure
are silent. [9:39:52 p] <ugly13f> i think inoshiro knows my brother!!
[9:40:8 p] <Maarken> who's your brother? [9:40:23 p] <Maarken> make0?
[9:40:25 p] <ugly13f> he said his name [9:40:29 p] <ugly13f> no! [9:41:4
p] <Maarken> what's his name? [9:41:39 p] <ugly13f> im not supposed to
talk about that stuff!! [9:41:45 p] <Maarken> shaw? [9:41:58 p] <ugly13f>
no [9:41:58 p] <Maarken> wargwolf? [9:42:4 p] <ugly13f> lol no [9:42:6 p]
<Maarken>
realname? [9:42:34 p] <ugly13f> his first name !! [9:42:47 p] <Maarken>
and you know, it's ok to his your brothers first name. [9:42:55 p]
<Maarken> Mine's Eric. How that? [9:43:7 p] <ugly13f> i dont know if he
really knows him or if he found it!! [9:43:45 p] <Maarken> what is it?
I'll know if he knows them or not. [9:43:49 p] <Maarken> we're friends.
[9:44:13 p] <ugly13f> he said chris ~~ [9:44:45 p] <Maarken> ah, then.
No, he found it. on philber.org I'd bet. [9:45:5 p] <ugly13f> whats that
!! [9:45:42 p] <Maarken> what IRC client are you using? I can tell you
where to look to explain it. [9:45:52 p] <ugly13f> i dont know !! [9:46:5
p] <Maarken> are you in windows? [9:47:9 p] <ugly13f> no im using his
thing [9:47:14 p] <ugly13f> its really hard to read !! [9:47:35 p] ->
[ugly13f] VERSION [9:47:54 p] <Maarken> I think you're in NetBSD. Cool.
[9:49:3 p] <ugly13f> that sounds okay [9:49:31 p] <Maarken> well, [snip]
is the hostname that you're connecting from. [9:49:39 p] <Maarken> and it
has a website. [9:49:49 p] <Maarken> that i guess mentioned Chris [9:49:58
p] <ugly13f> okay [9:50:37 p] <Maarken> by the way, kuro5hin isn't a
snowboarder channel. it goes with the website www.kuro5hin.org [9:51:44
p] <ugly13f> oh so k5 isnt snowboards?? [9:52:7 p] <Maarken> nope. it's
deep technical stuff about computers. [9:52:16 p] <Maarken> and whatever
pops up.
<Maarken> depends what you mean by "hacker". [9:53:17 p] <Maarken> do we
break into computers? no. are we *very* knowledgable about them? yes.
[9:53:37 p] <ugly13f> so you dont put viruses on computers?? [9:53:41 p]
<Maarken> no! [9:53:53 p] <Maarken> and if I were you, I wouldn't call
them hackers. [9:54:11 p] <ugly13f> why not [9:54:44 p] <Maarken> because
they'll think you mean "cracker" which means to break into computers, and
they'll get really mad. [9:55:7 p] <ugly13f> i thought thats what you call
white people lol [9:55:22 p] <ugly13f> lol inoshiro keeps spelling fuck
wrong!! [9:55:50 p] <Maarken> no, fsck is the linux command to make sure
your computer is ok, but it's become a geek swear. [9:56:38 p] <Maarken>
because it *looks* like fuck, but it's not frowned open because most
people don't understand. [9:56:55 p] <ugly13f> lol! [9:57:30 p] <ugly13f>
im hungry:(( [9:57:37 p] <Maarken> eat. [9:58:12 p] <ugly13f> so why do
you fuck your computers instead of naming it something else?? [9:58:39 p]
<Maarken> it's FileSystemChecK [9:58:46 p] <Maarken> hence, fsck [9:59:20
p] <ugly13f> dont people get confused ??? [9:59:31 p] <Maarken> not
really. [9:59:40 p] <Maarken> it's a context thing. [10:0:7 p] <ugly13f>
why not just fsc?? just to be rude??? [10:0:21 p] <Maarken> if you
complain about having to fsck your linux machine, they know you mean check
it's filesystem. if you say "FSCK!" then you're swearing. [10:0:37 p]
<Maarken> it's just what they guy named the command [10:1:0 p] <ugly13f>
he was probaly a pervert!! lol!! [10:1:18 p] <Maarken> maybe he just had a
sense of humor? [10:2:20 p] <ugly13f> not a very good one!! lol!! [10:3:1
p] <Maarken> most geeks think it's funny. [10:3:9 p] <Maarken> or atleast
amusing. [10:6:17 p] <Maarken> you know, I've tryed to be helpful, but I
think you're being lame for a reason. [10:6:35 p] <ugly13f> youre lame not
me!! [10:6:46 p] <ugly13f> lol! [10:6:51 p] <Maarken> <sigh> I'm done
here. [10:7:33 p] <Maarken> I think I'll show the rest of the guys this
log, so they know how lame you are. [10:7:35 p] <ugly13f> whyd you call me
lame??? [10:7:40 p] <Maarken> because you are? [10:7:45 p] <Maarken>
that'd be a good reason. [10:8:15 p] <ugly13f> you said you wouldnt tell
who my brother is!! [10:8:35 p] <Maarken> they know. [10:8:47 p] <Maarken>
Inoshiro said it. [10:9:30 p] <ugly13f> im sorry
later:
[10:11:28 p] <ugly13f> said you weren't hackers!!
[10:11:35 p] <Maarken> we aren't.
[10:11:43 p] <ugly13f> inoshiro just said my address!!!
[10:12:8 p] <Maarken> street address?
[10:12:17 p] <ugly13f> yes
[10:12:46 p] <Maarken> sure, it's
[snip]
[10:13:6 p] <Maarken> common knowledge.
[10:13:9 p] <ugly13f> What are you doing???
[10:13:17 p] <Maarken> heh
(This is CP0039)
From: cptroll
:)/ 30/5377/2018&pid=60#66
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Nice on jsm
Date sent: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:07:10 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0038)
Hmmm. In this case, is the correct course of action to mod them both up
to 5? Jsm just because, and trhurler in order to make him even more
self-righteous and egg him on? Or would it be more effective just to mod
jsm up and leave trhurler at none and make him cry favoritism?
Trhurler is one bitter fuck. On any given story, you can find him voting
-1. And his diaries, too.
James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
>Keep us the good work winding trhurler up on k5, immensely amusing
>watching him slowly getting more and more outraged at you
>
>http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/11
>
>Funny as hell.
>
>J
(This is CP0038)
From: cptroll
;-)
/bots have become pretty
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] tell me when to stop
Date sent: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:49 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com (This is CP0039)
(This is CP0040)
Thanks, but you should give me a holler first, since I'm rarely bellow 40
(I was at 44 after a capricious 5-point mod-down with another -1 on top);
so +10 is overkill. While I'm beating this gift horse in the mouth, let
me complain that my bobo comment is still languishing at -1 and won't be
archived.
I'm still waiting for michael to get off his ass and accept this one:
2000-11-28 00:39:58 Yahoo, Mein Kampf, and Child Pornography
(yro,internet) It's been sitting in his queue for a day now.
=?iso-8859-1?q?Lunchtime=20Troll?= <lunchtimetroll@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I had mod points on two accounts and I gave them all
>to Anne Marie as I saw that
>obsessed with her. Are there any other accounts that
>need a boost for the next time I have points?
>
>++tlt
(This is CP0040)
From: Ceee Peee
:)
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Vlad needs to be terminated
Date sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:32:20 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0012)
Did you guys get to it before vlad deleted the img tag to hello.jpg? Apparently authors are given free reign to put all sorts of html in their stories.
I wouldn't worry too much about vlad fucking things up. Our own slash site would be ideal, of course, but short of that, I'm in favor of using a site where we have registered authors who can clean up the crap and play with the settings. Today, I gave myself god mode (such wonderfully secure stuff, slashcode is) and created author "gbd" for the purpose of posting gbd's communism article (vlad'll shit a brick, I'm sure) before deleting the author to clean up -- it's not out of the question to create other authors for the rest of you guys, though the polite thing would be to run it by vlad first. I also got ahold of vlad's slashdot password, though I don't plan to do anything with it (he already metamodded). He's not the brightest in the bunch, but he's tame, and I'm not sure he's figured out the db enough to track us down.
I'm still working out the details so don't quote me, but a potentially workable scenario by my metric is: we each get author status, we post a hidden section article on geekizoid as no-comments (like zengan did with the iraq article way back when), and since we're all authors, we can override the "no comments" aspect and post away. Someone might still be able to find t, but at least the signal/noise level won't be any orse than we ourselves make it.
--- jlb wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, John Montoya wrote:
> > And actually, his "Alan Greenspan" story was quite
> > funny.
>
> Just found out, that was by cp, fyi.
>
> You didn't think vlad came up with it, did you?
>
> --
> "Is this real?"
> "Does it matter?"
>
(This is CP0012)
From: cptroll
/. userbio to reflect it). As near as I can
/ 12/4/145812/319
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] cp, is this you?
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:04:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0001)
Nope. (I saw that diary this morning.) Anne Marie doesn't have a k5
account (and I've updated her
tell, it was registered by the same person who registered CmdrTaco on k5
-- at least the garbage on the user page is consistent between the two.
Anyone who wants to point out the inconsistencies is welcome (I'll
refrain). Do you suppose if I <b>harass rusty</b> he'll give me the 'Anne Marie'
account?... He is known to be troll-friendly....
For now, I only post on k5 under "cp", though I have a 3k-range account
I'm holding in reserve in case a low uid# is ever needed to win a penis
contest. Technically, "Trivia Contest" was mine since I'm the idiot who
started that idea (and it's wasted at least some of rusty's morning,
though in a pleasant educational fashion), but that one's out of my
control now. I'm exploring social-engineering options outside of the mere
LWM disinformation/flaming I'm accustomed to.
Luis Casillas <casillas@stanford.edu> wrote:
>You may need a k5 account to see this:
>
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=2000
>
>The fact that the account is "Ann_a_ Marie" seems to argue against
>it... Anyway, you were around for the original "Real Bruce Perens"
>stuff, right?
>
>--
>Luis Casillas
>Department of Linguistics
>Stanford University
(This is CP0001)
From: Ceee Peee
/lived/ by you. If I were to go to Denny's
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] sunday adventure at deny's
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0014)
Sometimes I'm jealous of you, Warren. Not the
paranoia or the psychotropic haze you walk around in
often, but the way even the smallest experiences are
so well
(only slightly higher on my list than Cracker Barrel
-- a racist homophobic trailertrash chickenshit
restaurant, for the edification of the Brits in the
audience), it'd hardly register on my mind to notice
half the stuff you do. Sure, I can remember lots in
hindsight, like the Weslyan wicca-ish waitress who
served me and my gf's family at a veganish restaurant
in Middletown, CT at lunch today, but you turn it into
your own opera.
Maybe I'm depressed. Maybe I'm just normal. I'd like
to think it's the former.
(This is CP0014)
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0028)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0028)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Alyssa Milano
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:20:14 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0020)
She was that kid from Who's the Boss (and a Schwarzenegger flic), right?
Damn, she's aged gracefully. So how'd she get stuck doing 1800COLLECT ads
with Arsenio Hall, while Leonardo Dicaprio moved past Growing Pains and
into great roles like Total Eclipse? It's states like Ohio that do it, I
tell ya. Our nation is without taste.
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>THe Alyssa Milano E! true holywood story just started for anyone
>interested in her pouting breasts. 7:30 Eastern Standard. rev
(This is CP0020)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Thank you, thank you, you're too kind
Date sent: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:25:56 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0010)
Hooray for me; I made front page on k5. The vitriol
is so thick you can cut it with a spoon (or
something). I don't have time at the moment (and I'm
waiting for another k5 account to come in the mail...)
but the idiots have come forward with such force that
clue-stick beatings must abound or there is no justice
in this world.
First priority: make the idiots realize that the only
reason why they're decrying my story as a troll is
because they recognize "Anne Marie" as its author.
The same thing submitted under a different name
would've been posted or rejected for editorial reasons
without fanfare. In fact, as standards of trolling
go, this one wasn't much of one, apart from the
general inflamatoriness of the topic and the signature
last paragraph (which I mean every word of). Be sure
to note siggy's puerility at the bottom of the article
-- submitting stories just to piss him off is proving
to be enough incentive in its own right. His reaction
on #k5 which I alas don't have archived (running
around with his head chopped off screaming "troll")
was priceless.
(This is CP0010)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:22:12 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0030)
cptroll <cptroll@linuxstart.com> wrote:
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: 25 Date: Thu Oct 26 2
>I've been in touch with gbd via email. (He doesn't want me to share his
>address with anyone, and I'm respecting that.) Apparently, the fellow
>has big plans, but he's aufully vague and evasive about everything, so
>it's hard to say what's what. I do have his physical location nailed
>down to a certain one of the fifty states, and it's an odd one.
>
>I asked him about his scheme of capitalization, and this was the best
>answer I could get from him: "as far as why i capitalize things i do it
>to EMPHASIZE things that should be stressed, i know that you can do this
>with html but i am too lazy, hehe."
>
>Yes, he stays true to his form, even in email. The upshot is, I gave him
>his account, and he's all squared away with that.
>
>What an odd fellow!
(This is CP0030)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Alyssa Milano
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:20:14 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0020)
She was that kid from Who's the Boss (and a Schwarzenegger flic), right?
Damn, she's aged gracefully. So how'd she get stuck doing 1800COLLECT ads
with Arsenio Hall, while Leonardo Dicaprio moved past Growing Pains and
into great roles like Total Eclipse? It's states like Ohio that do it, I
tell ya. Our nation is without taste.
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>THe Alyssa Milano E! true holywood story just started for anyone
>interested in her pouting breasts. 7:30 Eastern Standard. rev
(This is CP0020)
From: cptroll
) and pioneer an entirely PICTOGRAPHIC version (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/112100c.shtml ).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] why the internet rules
Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:29:43 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0037)
Did you get that from ilovebacon.com? Because if you did, then I'm disappointed you didn't note how those industrious Germans are at it again. Who else could pick up on the failure of dogs to read their 'no pooping' signs (http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/noway/110300.shtml
Without such innovation at home, it's little wonder Amerika is scraping
the bottom of the corporate barrel abroad.
jlb <jlb@io.com> wrote:
>http://www.d111.k12.id.us/BHS/BHS.htm
(This is CP0037)
From: cptroll
d =2755) so I make up an
B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
t .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0029)
I'm trying to give george his account back
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&ci
appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
prick he is, sends me this email:
>From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
>17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
[snip]
>X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
>Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
>MIME-Version: Ê1.0
>Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858
>X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
>5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
>Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
>
>okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?
Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postne
If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.
(This is CP0029)
From: cptroll
:)/ 30/5377/2018&pid=60#66
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Nice on jsm
Date sent: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:07:10 -0500
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0038)
Hmmm. In this case, is the correct course of action to mod them both up
to 5? Jsm just because, and trhurler in order to make him even more
self-righteous and egg him on? Or would it be more effective just to mod
jsm up and leave trhurler at none and make him cry favoritism?
Trhurler is one bitter fuck. On any given story, you can find him voting
-1. And his diaries, too.
James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
>Keep us the good work winding trhurler up on k5, immensely amusing
>watching him slowly getting more and more outraged at you
>
>http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/11
>
>Funny as hell.
>
>J
(This is CP0038)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:03:43 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0032)
Aren't you still doing the Arkansas thing? Doesn't jive....
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>Shut up, WILLIAM HENRY GATES. How does STEVE BALMER'S
>SEMEN taste??? Do you enjoy that AIDS-INFESTED JISM as you
>MASTURBATE to PHOTOGRAPHS of YOUNG CHILDREN?
>
>On 27 Oct 00, at 14:22, rev wrote:
>
>> I knew you were gdb you bastard!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>> To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
>>
>>
>> > You should try MAXIMUM LINUX. It has MAE LING MAK. There's
>> > a picture of her in every issue wearing nothing but a VAIO! And the
>> > VAIO runs Linux! 'Cept she can't get the sound to work.
>> >
>> > MAE LING MAK is a SECURITY EXPERT. She wrote a
>> > SECURITY ARTICLE for MAXIMUM LINUX about ADVANCED
>> > SECURITY. She suggested that you PROTECT your e-mail from
>> > HACKERS, you do this:
>> >
>> > alias pine='blahblahblah'
>> > alias foo='pine'
>> >
>> > If you do this ADVANCED SECURITY stuff, an EVIL HACKER who
>> > breaks into your account an tries to read your e-mail with PINE will
>> > get an error when he types "pine", not knowing that to get into PINE,
>> > he ACTUALLY has to type "foo"! But MAE LING MAK knows, so SHE can
>> > read her e-mail but the EVIL HACKERS can't.
>> >
>> > Isn't MAE LING MAK smart? I like her ass the best.
>> >
>> > Also, you need to GO READ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
>> >
>> > You don't not understand the BASIC CONCEPTS of FREE
>> > SOFTWARE. You don't understand the difference between
>> > PHYSICAL VALUE and INTELLECTUAL VALUE. A MAGAZINE
>> > has physical value, it costs MONEY to COPY and DISTRIBUTE. It
>> > exists as a PHYSICAL OBJECT, therefore it has PHYSICAL
>> > VALUE. SOFTWARE does not. It can be COPIED and
>> > DISTRIBUTED for FREE. Some EVIL SOCIALIST SOFTWARE
>> > COMPANIES try to CHARGE for software ANYWAY, and place
>> > RESTRICTIONS on the user's RIGHT to USE, and DISTRIBUTE it!
>> > They assign INTELLECTUAL VALUE to the software. This is
>> > morally WRONG. Get it RIGHT, fsckwit.
>> >
>> > Also, you're using MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EXPRESS, which
>> > proves you're STUPID.
>> >
>> > You can't compare a MAGAZINE to SOFTWARE, just like you
>> > can't compare YOUR MOTHER to a FEMALE. They're completely
>> > different things.
>> >
>> > SUCK IT DOWN AND CHOKE ON IT, AND DIE. SUCK IT DOWN
>> > AND CHOKE ON IT. SUCK IT DOWN. SUCK IT. SUCK. I'LL
>> > BURN YOU ALL ALIVE. I'LL BURN YOU ALL. I'LL BURN YOU.
>> > BURN YOU ALL. BURN YOU. BURN. BURN. BURN.
>> > BURNING. BURNING. BURNING BURNING FIRE. DEATH AND
>> > PAIN AND FIRE.
(This is CP0032)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Thank you, thank you, you're too kind
Date sent: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:25:56 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0010)
Hooray for me; I made front page on k5. The vitriol
is so thick you can cut it with a spoon (or
something). I don't have time at the moment (and I'm
waiting for another k5 account to come in the mail...)
but the idiots have come forward with such force that
clue-stick beatings must abound or there is no justice
in this world.
First priority: make the idiots realize that the only
reason why they're decrying my story as a troll is
because they recognize "Anne Marie" as its author.
The same thing submitted under a different name
would've been posted or rejected for editorial reasons
without fanfare. In fact, as standards of trolling
go, this one wasn't much of one, apart from the
general inflamatoriness of the topic and the signature
last paragraph (which I mean every word of). Be sure
to note siggy's puerility at the bottom of the article
-- submitting stories just to piss him off is proving
to be enough incentive in its own right. His reaction
on #k5 which I alas don't have archived (running
around with his head chopped off screaming "troll")
was priceless.
(This is CP0010)
From: Ceee Peee
/lived/ by you. If I were to go to Denny's
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] sunday adventure at deny's
Date sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:15:42 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0014)
Sometimes I'm jealous of you, Warren. Not the
paranoia or the psychotropic haze you walk around in
often, but the way even the smallest experiences are
so well
(only slightly higher on my list than Cracker Barrel
-- a racist homophobic trailertrash chickenshit
restaurant, for the edification of the Brits in the
audience), it'd hardly register on my mind to notice
half the stuff you do. Sure, I can remember lots in
hindsight, like the Weslyan wicca-ish waitress who
served me and my gf's family at a veganish restaurant
in Middletown, CT at lunch today, but you turn it into
your own opera.
Maybe I'm depressed. Maybe I'm just normal. I'd like
to think it's the former.
(This is CP0014)
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] gbd on #trolls
Date sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:06:25 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0004)
Right now, "gbd" is on #trolls. His host is
remarkably similar to momocrome's: gbd is
~gbd@adsl-63-200-62-16.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
(george), whereas momocrome is
~natalie_p@cloaked.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (MOMOCROME).
Yet, he's able to present compelling evidence that he
is the one who currently holds the "gbd" usernick on
slashdot, who I do consider to be the real gbd in
light of the circumstances surrounding how I gave him
the account. Gbd's address looks like it's from SF,
whereas momocrome's is from LA, so that would suggest
they're not the same. But does anyone else have a
pacbell.net address that we know?
(This is CP0004)
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0025)
Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
Otherwise, jolly good show.
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
>http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg
(This is CP0025)
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect
to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be
using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx
of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional
Vlad sympathizer.
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers:
There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who
aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save"
hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor",
you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are
using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact
that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be
having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at
ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our
sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful
internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has
been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of
completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of
any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each
cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in
a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated
as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger
from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain
anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised,
the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and
replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on
probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other
cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less
than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to
share the information you request, it would not be able to because it
would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates
in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals
of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of
Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting
service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point.
However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided
upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr.
Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead,
Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of
lies
and vitriol.
For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the
length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try
various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually,
they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for
a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of
cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is.
The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the
current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current
alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets cocky/
attack again is necessary to wear down Mr. Lockwood's self-confidence and
general desire for continued existence.
As for the fate of Trollaxor.com, I would suggest you find a more suitable,
respectable host for your web site. Had you chosen your hosting solution more
wisely to begin with, you would not find yourself in the same sinking ship with
the rest of Lockwood's "customers". We would also like to remind you that it
is not we who are the enemy, it is William Scott Lockwood III who has
brought this upon himself and those who do business with him. Yes, our attacks
have been harsh and our dealings with Mr. Lockwood have been merciless, but simply
going over Mr. Lockwood's internet history shows that our cause is just and in the
best interests of the internet community at large. If we must sacrifice "innocent"
sites such as yours and kuro5hin, then so be it. It is a very small price to pay
for a truly Vladinator-free internet. An internet where true innocents can browse,
write and engage in discussion without fear of being choked at the hands of a
slobbering troglydite with bad glands
and a spastic colon.
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] No respect
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:57:36 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0018)
Today was the appointed date for jury duty (postponed since this summer, since the idiots at the courthouse failed to divine that calling a student to duty in the county where he studies rather than resides permanently doesn't make any sense). It was my hope to get on a jury, since I highly value the (unconstitutionally diminishing) role of the jury in American jurisprudence.
I showed up this morning at the courthouse. After some buffoonery at the security check (hint: don't carry a cpu in your backpack when arriving for jury duty), I went upstairs where I signed in and was informed that I had already missed the video (shucks). I filled out some paperwork and was redirected to the grand-jury room.
This was a potential mixed blessing. Grand juries, as distinguished from petite ("normal") juries, are the first line that the state must cross before obtaining an indictment for the accused. They consist of 23 laypersons whose standard is "probable cause" rather than "reasonable doubt" and vote by majority rule whether to issue an indictment. The prosecutor presents his witnesses and evidence, and the defendant has no representation. Normally, the grand-jury trial is brief and 99% or so of all grand juries return an indictment. Prosecutors often refer to this statistic as the "ability to indict a ham sandich" if they so please. Grand juries usually sit for one day per week for three months, something that would screw up any student's semester.
The good thing about grand juries is that they have almost infinite investigatory powers to do whatever they please. What is not commonly understood is that the role of the grand jury isn't just to return a verdict in the form of an indictment; it's for members to question witnesses, subpoena evidence the prosecutor didn't present, and generally get the whole story. It's even within the power of the grand jury to expell the prosecutor and judge if the jury so decides.
I was prepared to give them hell. Once on a jury
(grand or otherwise), I was going to be the asshole
lawyer the defendant isn't allowed to have. I was
going to subpoena bank records, grill prosecutorial
witnesses, and vote to nullify anything I considered
unjust (even when "legal"). I was going to persuade
enough fellow jurors to kick out anyone we didn't
like, especially the prosecutor. In short, I was
going to troll the legal system.
But I didn't get that opportunity. After an hour of
sitting in the grand-jury room, we were informed that
we weren't waiting for a grand-jury seating: instead,
a petite-jury seating.
Petite juries, in states that value the constitution,
are 12-person panels that sit and hear evidence in the
actual criminal trial. Their role is ostensibly to
decide the facts and apply the law as directed by the
judge. Their actual role under the constitution
(though the Supreme Court doesn't require that you be
informed of this) is to sit in judgment not just on
the facts but also on the law. Again, I was hoping to
get a chance to nullify stuff: this time, drug laws
and other things I believe unconstitutional.
Again, I was denied. Only five minutes later, we were
informed that all the cases pending today were
plea-bargained, and we were "free to go". A sigh of
relief was heard throughout the room, as people who
didn't want to be there were grateful that they didn't
have to serve on a jury and perform the duty they
didn't want to perform. I was disgusted.
That's what's most wrong with plea bargaining in this
country. Not that 90% of cases never reach public
scrutiny because they're decided in the hallways of
courthouses. Not that people serve penalties for
unconstitutional charges. Not that real criminals get
off with reduced sentences. Not that the legislatures
feel free to pass an absurd number of laws without
caring whether the court system can handle the load of
giving each citizen true justice.
None of that.
What's wrong is that I, a troll, have been kept off my
damn jury. No respect.
(This is CP0018)
Take your Flame war elsewhere!
pfft.
Christ, I know that correct spelling isn't allowed on Slashdot, but if the people running the world spell naive "knaive," I fucking give up. Even Bill could do better than that.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of neurons.