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In his book, Unidentified Flying Objects: Starcraft, Der Voron has offered an extremely well-researched and detailed report of incidents that have occurred all across the globe, from many different eras. Ancient writings may have been the first indication that 'we are not alone,' and Der Voron cites several of these sources as examples. Such statements originate from many different countries and in different continents, from ancient times to contemporary, from Indian tales of events that took place in the wilds of Kipling country to experiences related by a German artillery gunner during World War Two. Reports of 'unidentified contact with objects of undetermined origins' have been filed in government offices from the plains of South America to the fjords of Norway and the steppes of Asia.
Highly annotated and illustrated with fascinating examples of starship models and their possible makeup, armaments and defensive mechanisms (according to some data belonging to U.S. government research on alien starcraft), this ambitious work offers a wealth of documented information on not only Starcraft, otherwise known as 'Flying Saucers,' but the types of extraterrestrials that have flown them. All aliens are not created equal, as their many varied depictions and origins in historical writings attest. The author's use of a plethora of written documentation ably enhances his description of personal civilian and military accounts of those who have had some kind of interaction with these objects.
Also explored in great detail is the intelligence of our sea life, mainly as that intelligence relates to dolphins and the octopi of our deepest oceans, and how they, in turn, can be used in the search for extended knowledge of the universe surrounding our planet. How and why these creatures have gained such highly specialized communication skills and how it is that an octopus can experience an event and not only remember it, but learn from it, is explored, and commented upon as it relates to man's search for a higher intelligence.
While replete with scientific data, terms and information, this work by Der Voron is nevertheless highly readable and extremely illuminating for the common reader with no prior knowledge of extraterrestrial existence, while at the same time it provides hours of reading material and documentation to keep the more knowledgeable busy.
Der Voron's conscientious effort to dig deep for his sources shows in his detailed reports, and his data gathering and willingness to share that information is a challenging endeavor in which he has aptly succeeded. The existence of extraterrestrials is an immensely interesting topic, one that will be explored for years to come, and this work can provide an invaluable asset to any stargazer's bookshelf.
If this review intrigued you, you may want to see this interview with the author of this book in Weekly Universe. You can purchase Unidentified Flying Objects: Starcraft from bn.com. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.
Starcraft? Can he use that?
Ray Kurzweil has hypothosized that the chances for intelligent life are very slim, as they would have already spread their intelligence throught the universe, as we "should" within 300 years. ....well...at least its a good read.
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In that google search, there's a handful of reviews posted on other sites. All the reviews are by this same person (Denise M. Clark). Is this guy the writer of the book, posting reviews under another name to try and get some publicity?
Actually, octopi are quite intelligent. I remember seeing (on the Discovery channel) intelligence tests where octopi were given sealed mason jars with crabs in them to figure out how long it would take the octopus to figure out how to unseal and/or unscrew the cap. Answer: not long.
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highly readable and extremely illuminating for the common reader with no prior knowledge of extraterrestrial existence
... make me ill. How can we go from the scientific proposition that extraterrestrial life and exists to the unscientific speculation and leap of faith demanded in these volumes?
In other words read this book, and you'll know ET exists, too.
I have no doubt there are UFO's. I think it's far more than likely there is life "out there." But conspiracy theories about simmering gov't schemes to keep us from the truth
Also explored in great detail is the intelligence of our sea life
OK, there's a creative twist. Methinks they needed more pages to call it a book.
The author's use of a plethora of written documentation ably enhances his description of personal civilian and military accounts...
"Plethora" actually means excess or superabundance. Here the plan appears to be that if you pile enough of it on...
Forgive me for skepticism, but speculations like these are not a whit different from theories that man did not land of the Moon or that President Bush orchestrated 9/11, and so on. They sound kind of interesting, suggestive evidence can be shown, but the web of speculation leads nowhere. I'm tired of con artists like this.
I emphasize that these people are not mere wackos, if they are wacko at all. They are scam artists who do not deserve your money. Visit the good old library instead, or drink deep of the wonderful nonsense available for free on the Web.
The accepted non-lunatic-ufo-watcher explanation of Area 51 is that it's an Air Force testing grounds for top secret new aircraft - the next generations of things like the SR-71. I believe slashdot had some coverage not that long ago about the unveiling (finally) of the Aurora test craft, which matches many of the "spacecraft" description from Area 51 watchers. Aurora is nifty, but it's clearly not alien inspired, just human engineered.
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Remember "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof".
Since you're quoting Carl Sagan (who often said, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"), I would suggest a great book of his that talks a lot about UFO's (or lack thereof) and skepticism in general: The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark.
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... *sigh* Since I've admitted this on /. and around the net before, I might as well make a fool of myself and admit it again. In September of 1994 I saw a silver disc shaped object in broad daylight perform outrageous maneuvers. Yes, I was completely sober. No, they weren't lights in the sky. No, it wasn't a balloon, helicopter, or airplane at an odd viewing angle.
/. And honestly, I think there would be value in trained University scientists conducting a new investigation into this phenomena, preferably privately funded. I have no idea what this is about, but now I think something worthy of investigation is going on.
What I saw:
At the time I had just moved to Cincinnati and was driving back from a flea market with two other friends. We had just stopped at a gas station to fill up the van in which we were driving. The driver (a female) stepped inside to pay the bill while my other friend went inside to take a leak. I stepped outside and walked away from the van (and gas pumps) to smoke a butt.
Looking past the road was a large grass covered crest which dropped down and then much farther back came up into a tree covered hill/mountain. I noticed what I first thought was a silver balloon, about the size of a quarter of my thumbnail at arms length, bobbing and spinning sort of, just hovering. As I was watching it began to descend, wavering like a leaf, coming down back and forth very slowly. It was at this point that I thought that it was behaving strangely, so I watched closer. It abruptly stopped and hovered for a bit longer. Then it jumped toward me (determined by it growing larger in my field of view to maybe half to two thirds my thumbnail), jumped straight up at high speed, and then abruptly crossed from the left to the right of my horizon in a large arc, diminishing in size as it moved until it disappeared from a point into nothingness (which I take to mean it moved farther away from me as it crossed the sky). This happened *very* fast - a second or two, no more. What struck me about the last abrupt movement is that it didn't appear to accelerate at all. Since I must assume it behaved under the laws of physics, this means the acceleration was so fast and at such a high G-force, that it happened outside the limitations of my awareness - which would certainly have crushed any occupants inside.
Since I have only one pair of eyes, and the object was far enough away to be focused at infinity, there's no way to determine distance or size. I have NO FUCKING IDEA what I saw. No one else saw it and I have no way to "prove" that what I saw is anything but a mirage or some other visual illusion and/or artifact of the eye. Like all eye witness accounts (whether in court or in circumstances such as these) lack of corroboration should equal disbelief on the reader's part. I would only request that those who reply to this at least assume I am telling the truth about the events I witnessed, even if you believe that what I saw is some sort of visual illusion or misinterpretation of the events.
All I will say is that I believe I witnessed a physical object move in ways I've never seen anything else move, prosaic aircraft or not. I did not see any occupants inside the object, nor was I "abducted" or any of that shit. This statement does NOT mean I believe aliens are buzzing our skies. But it has decidedly shaken what was once my opinion that UFO's aren't even worth discussion time, never mind scientific analysis. I'm quite bothered by what I saw, and more to the point I'm bothered by the instant assumption that those who see these kinds of things are a kook for simply having viewed and publicly stated their accounts. Which is why I'm reluctant to post this. I bet I'm not alone. But WTF, this is just
JMO,
--Maynard
UFO-loon Denise M. Clark wrote about a UFO book that discusses "the intelligence of our sea life, mainly as that intelligence relates to dolphins". Slashdot user Swannie attempted to make a humorous startrek IV reference by adding "Don't forget about killer whales". Others have pointed out that this was an inaccurate Trek reference. I'd like to add that it was also silly because killer whales are in the family delfinidae; i.e. they are dolphins, and as such were not "forgotten" by Ms. Clark's statement.
FWIW, I think it is safe to assume that either Ms. Clark or the author of the book she reviewed is fond of David Brin's Uplift Wars series, and in particular the intelligent dolphins in his book Startide Rising. They ought to expand their reading just a little and familiarize themselves with Brin's essay from Otherness where he talks about the public's refusal to accept that language research has simply not shown dolphins to be as clever as we wish them to be.
For interested parties - This is a very cool book. It is an odd combination of short sci-fi stories grouped by topic along with intelligent non-fictional essays that discuss the same issues. Brin uses the above cetacean language example as a jumping off point to discuss Americans' obession with behaving as though other people's ideas, even ones that are not supported by the facts, ought to be treated like they equal merit.
"Weapons should be hardy rather than decorative" - Miyamoto Musashi
I think that goes for OS's too
She has spent the last two weeks bombarding me with requests to publish her review in my now defunct magazine. For some reason, WE'RE OUT OF BUSINESS didn't seem to phase her. She was so adamant that we publish her, she got Der Veron to start begging. Both of them are super shady sounding. Just this morning I got this from him (gender?):
"I am thinking over how to help your edition to re-start... Perhaps the following way could be successful? I have a photo of my close friend, she is 36, but looks 20 years old, and people often think her 14 years old daughter is her sister. How about publishing a little article about this woman? Her specialty is IT support spec. (Note: there is absolutely nothing that might be considered as "erotic" on this photo.)"
Still, have to give them credit for the size of their collective huevos.
My father tells a similar story.
He was walking through a lit parking lot one hazy evening, and he noticed these cream colored blobs off in the distance. They were swooping back and forth, and performing maneuvers no aircraft could possibly handle, at least not without turning the pilot to gel. He stood there watching for several minutes, because he was certain he was seeing real live UFOs.
Then one of them swooped down and ate a bug that was circling one of the parking lot lights.
He's had a rather skeptical view of UFO claims since.
Remember kids, lighting and atmospheric conditions can make even ordinary events like birds looking for an easy meal look odd.
But then again, I could be wrong.
The actual point of that experiment was to prove that octopi can learn from observation. What they did was give one octopus jars with crabs in them until it learned how to unscrew the caps. Then they put another octopus in a tank sharing a glass wall with the first one. They gave the first octopus more jars to open while the second octopus watched intently. When they gave the second one jars to open, it knew how to open them right away. That was one of the cooler experiments I've seen.
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