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Aussie Uni Dumps Dual-Boot In Favor of Linux

kNIGits writes "News.com.au is reporting that the University of Wollongong have dumped their previously dual-boot installations in favour of booting Linux only. Among other reasons, staff enjoy the ease with which they can 'lock down' first year students, stopping them messing with the systems prior to learning anything about them."

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  1. yay by SHEENmaster · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It is still BugFree(tm). With NO "Evil Lies". Linus kicks ass!

    --
    You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
  2. Early Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Soon as I saw the story on the front page I knew what awaited inside. Hundreds of posts from zitty geeks trying to be punker-than-thou by coming up with ever-more-obscure namedropping to make up for their lack of real style (or to pretend that they are actually old enough to have been involved). Drop the pretension kiddos. We all know that your Blink 182 CD is older than your copy of Bollocks.

    I love how a whole new level of conformity has been created by the average bozo's efforts at individuality. It might almost work if your personal definition of individuality didn't depend so heavily on how you present yourself to others. I mean, what's the sense of being into bullshit like [insert pseudo-non-mainstream hobby here] if you can't talk about it to make yourself superior to your peers?

    Kinda sounds like the Linux crowd, huh? "I'm so ALTERNATIVE by patching my kernel every day while you brainwashed Windows sheep meander in unenlightened tedium." Funny to think that if you had back all the time you spent tweaking and patching (for no good reason other than to say you have the latest version), you wouldn't know what to do with the workstation on your desk.

    *sigh*

    excuse the rant. caffiene has yet to be digested.

  3. Amherst-Fag and the Prick Vladinator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
    Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
    (This is CP0029)

    I'm trying to give george his account back
    (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&cid =2755) so I make up an
    appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
    prick he is, sends me this email:

    >From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
    >17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
    From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
    From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
    [snip]
    >X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
    >Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
    >MIME-Version: Ê1.0
    >Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
    >boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
    >X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
    >5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
    >Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
    >
    >okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?

    Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
    originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
    (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postnet .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
    If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
    from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.

    (This is CP0029)

  4. Amherst-Fag and the GDB 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    Subject: [k22320inchfan] Let's try this one again: gbd et al
    Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:22:12 -0400
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
    (This is CP0030)

    cptroll <cptroll@linuxstart.com> wrote:

    From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: 25 Date: Thu Oct 26 2

    >I've been in touch with gbd via email. (He doesn't want me to share his
    >address with anyone, and I'm respecting that.) Apparently, the fellow
    >has big plans, but he's aufully vague and evasive about everything, so
    >it's hard to say what's what. I do have his physical location nailed
    >down to a certain one of the fifty states, and it's an odd one.
    >
    >I asked him about his scheme of capitalization, and this was the best
    >answer I could get from him: "as far as why i capitalize things i do it
    >to EMPHASIZE things that should be stressed, i know that you can do this
    >with html but i am too lazy, hehe."
    >
    >Yes, he stays true to his form, even in email. The upshot is, I gave him
    >his account, and he's all squared away with that.
    >
    >What an odd fellow!

    (This is CP0030)

  5. Amherst-Fag and the Harassment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] cp, is this you?
    Date sent: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:04:43 -0500
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
    (This is CP0001)

    Nope. (I saw that diary this morning.) Anne Marie doesn't have a k5
    account (and I've updated her /. userbio to reflect it). As near as I can
    tell, it was registered by the same person who registered CmdrTaco on k5
    -- at least the garbage on the user page is consistent between the two.
    Anyone who wants to point out the inconsistencies is welcome (I'll
    refrain). Do you suppose if I <b>harass rusty</b> he'll give me the 'Anne Marie'
    account?... He is known to be troll-friendly....

    For now, I only post on k5 under "cp", though I have a 3k-range account
    I'm holding in reserve in case a low uid# is ever needed to win a penis
    contest. Technically, "Trivia Contest" was mine since I'm the idiot who
    started that idea (and it's wasted at least some of rusty's morning,
    though in a pleasant educational fashion), but that one's out of my
    control now. I'm exploring social-engineering options outside of the mere
    LWM disinformation/flaming I'm accustomed to.

    Luis Casillas <casillas@stanford.edu> wrote:

    >You may need a k5 account to see this:
    >
    > http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=2000/ 12/4/145812/319
    >
    >The fact that the account is "Ann_a_ Marie" seems to argue against
    >it... Anyway, you were around for the original "Real Bruce Perens"
    >stuff, right?
    >
    >--
    >Luis Casillas
    >Department of Linguistics
    >Stanford University

    (This is CP0001)

  6. Amherst-Fag and the Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Re: and the Troll Thesis spreads further...
    Date sent: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:20:25 -0500
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
    (This is CP0002)

    Actually, k5trolltalk has been more for bullshitting than for trolling
    (much like this mailing list), and most of my trolls have been kept to
    myself, alas. Still, there's a certain private joy in making rusty's head
    spin (http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=trolltal k&cid=141#141).

    =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?= <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    >I didn't know there was a K5 trolltalk, or otherwise I
    >wouldn't have posted those links to GeekCulture here
    >when they were already mentioned on trolltalk. I
    >didn't even realise that you'd all left the /.
    >trolltalk, I just thought you'd got sick of the noise
    >there and started keeping your trolls to yourselves
    >(like I do).

    (This is CP0002)

  7. Amherst-Fag and the Cute Teen Girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
    Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
    (This is CP0025)

    Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
    breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
    Otherwise, jolly good show.

    Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
    >I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
    >http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg

    (This is CP0025)

  8. Amherst-Fag and the Cute Teen Girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] New Debian advertisements, by me!
    Date sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:55:53 -0400
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
    (This is CP0025)

    Hey, you missed part of her armpit. She's a statue with a living,
    breathing armpit. I'm trying to find some irony there, but I can't.
    Otherwise, jolly good show.

    Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
    >I've done some unofficial new advertisements for Debian Linux.
    >http://users.ipa.net/~cmcpher/newad.jpg

    (This is CP0025)

  9. VLADEQUACY RAW & UNCUT 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    [luisa|||] i don't know if i can ever be that weak and female
    [luisa|||] i.e. find a guy worth that loss
    *** luisa|||| has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 300 seconds)
    [county] Why is it weak to confess your feelings to the one you feel for?
    [luisa|||] because then they've got you in the knees
    [luisa|||] why should i always be the one who cares the most?
    [luisa|||] and on top of that, have to cop to it?
    [Linux] hey grewat, big cop bust outside
    [county] Because, luisa, somebody has to, and if it's them, you'll reject them.
    [county] I'm not seeing many other options. How about you?
    [Linux] shouting and threatening tones
    [Linux] I am going to go walk the dogs past the bust while drunk
    [county] What bust?
    [Linux] dunno
    [Linux] they are shouting at drunks, I think
    [county] Who?
    [Linux] maybe there will be death
    [Linux] cops
    [Linux] many of them
    [Linux] 8 cars at least
    [luisa|||] eek
    [Linux] maybe I'll get shot
    [county] There are 8 cop-cars full of cops shouting at drunks?
    [Linux] yes
    [Linux] two drunks by the sound of things
    [luisa|||] county, if i find a guy i consider my equal
    [luisa|||] it would all work out
    [Linux] they are right past the corner of my building
    [luisa|||] wait
    [luisa|||] eight cops, two drunks?
    [luisa|||] that is Not Right.
    [Linux] i think so
    * luisa||| waits for a cool song to come on
    [county] You've never met a guy who you consider your equal?
    [Linux] luisa|||, are you actually listening to radio broadcasts of popualr music?
    [county] I suppose that makes sense, actually. Most are probably your superior or inferior.
    [county] I think it's fairly obvious which side I fall on.
    [luisa|||] you could be inferior
    [luisa|||] but you probably know lots of things i don't
    [luisa|||] and you also are more productive in daily life
    [county] I am so far beyond you, luisa.
    [county] Come on.
    [luisa|||] i love cheesy 80s music
    [luisa|||] nah, you are just different
    [luisa|||] the measure would be if i made you feel weak and helplessly resentful
    [luisa|||] that's inferior
    [luisa|||] and only assessable face to face
    [Linux] luisa|||, you spin me twice 'round, baby.
    [county] If you made me feel weak and helplessly resentful? Haha.
    [luisa|||] well, anyone who feels like a lesser person probably is
    [luisa|||] or at least is not worth bothering with
    [em] you guys still going on about this? God.
    [county] Only a few people have made me inferior, and none of them were at all like you.
    [luisa|||] it is friday night and neither of us are out carousing, em
    [luisa|||] whatever did you expect would occur?
    [em] neither am I.
    [luisa|||] but you are at uni
    [county] em, have you been drinking?
    [em] well, I went to a chamber chorale concert.
    [em] county: not a drop
    [em] maybe I should.
    [county] Probably. It makes you more tolerant.
    [luisa|||] anyhow, county, it is all moot
    [luisa|||] i am not going to bed with you
    [luisa|||] so the question of whether you are inferior or not will never come up
    [county] I'm not going to bed with you. What of it?
    [county] Anyway, it has come up, and it's been settled. I'm superior.
    [luisa|||] if you feel that you are
    [luisa|||] i do rather want to go to bed
    [luisa|||] but i just finished supper
    * em wonders if he has anything edible in the fridge.
    [luisa|||] i have lovely soup i made from random ingredients
    [Linux] katsup is a vegetable
    [luisa|||] only for bachelors
    [luisa|||] lord, it is four am rising
    [county] It's "catsup" or "ketchup."
    [luisa|||] okbed
    *** luisa||| is now known as gurl
    [Linux] night, wheesie
    [Linux] I am really nothing like a viking, btw
    [county] Oh, I'm sure.
    *** Linux is now known as momocrome
    *** county has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer)
    *** momocrome has quit IRC (Quit: )
    *** gurl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 300 seconds)
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    *** bc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
    *** Marco` (nightfall@cloaked.tlv.netvision.net.il) has joined #adequacy
    [Marco`] Hi
    [Marco`] Anyone alive?
    * Marco` 's off
    *** Marco` has quit IRC (Quit: Going down now)
    [me0w] g'morning
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    [bc] hello
    [me0w] Hi bc
    [bc] hellow me0wsy
    * bc was just in the pub
    [bc] and you know what?
    [me0w] What?
    [bc] a woman in her late forties started coming onto me something dreadful
    [bc] unlike some, I wasn't in the least tempted
    [me0w] Ahhh ... So you had no Mr.Buck temptations ..
    [bc] certainly not :)
    [me0w] Well done!
    [bc] it's not a great achievement, I think these things are in your nature.
    [bc] Either you adore OAP's, or you don't.
    [bc] cool
    [bc] scotland beat south africa at the rugby!
    [me0w] I think though, in Mr. Buck's case, he may have been wearing some good quality Beer Goggles.
    [bc] that's a point. Still, I did have 3 pints, I wasn't entirely sober, but probably not as many Mr Buck. I think alcohol just decreases your reserve, it doesn't make you suddenly find things attractive you don't while sober
    [bc] I mean, if you wake up after a night out with a member of your own sex (for example), it prolly says something
    * bc has some prawns
    [me0w] This is why everyone needs a voice of reason when drinking. I take mine along whenever I am going to be consuming cast quantities of alcohol (the voice of reason is also known as the designated driver).
    [bc] hehe
    [me0w] cast = vast
    [bc] strange, I don't have problems. In fact, I reject much more impressively and fullsomely when drunk than when sober. I don't need no stinkin' voice of reason!
    [me0w] When I am intoxicated I run across a problem .... my tongue feels funny and I like to lick things (people). I need a voice of reason to keep me out of trouble.
    [bc] haha! I remember you mentioning this before. That's an awful affliction, though prolly pretty amusing
    [me0w] And apparently I become quite the mischevious girl and for this I also need the voice.
    [bc] to stop you mixing it up too much? Playing tricks and pranks
    [me0w] And the licking ...
    [bc] this makes you sound like quite the handful when pissed
    [me0w] A giggly handful, yes.
    [me0w] That's why I need a voice of reason.
    [bc] I don't think I'm too bad when drunk. In fact, I'm often the voice of reason for other people, despite that we have all drunk hideous amounts. I'm just the same as usual, but more exhuberantly, I suppose. I think I have a good head for booze by nature, that's prolly why
    [bc] mm that was tasty
    [bc] post-prandial smoke time
    [me0w] enjoy
    * bc wonders whether to watch "contact" on dvd, which he has, but hasn't watched, though he read the book years ago
    [bc] which I liked, I liked the way it was all about revelation, and its validity
    [bc] the woman in it was sort of like a hardcore kurobot at first, you know, utterly logical positivist and materialist and dismissive of anything that can't be proved utterly, of revelation, till it all comes back and bites her when she has her own revelatory experience
    [me0w] I don't think I have ever seen this film.
    [bc] it's supposed to be decent.
    [bc] I think a lot of people hated it, and another lot of people loved it
    [me0w] I will have to add it to my must see list of films.
    [bc] it's a sort of SF thing, in a way, and I think a lot of the people who disliked it were expecting some usual guns'n'aliens shite
    [me0w] I normally don't watch 'alien' movies.
    [bc] it's not really like that. The book wasn't at least. It's set present day
    [bc] they discover an alien signal
    [bc] this woman does
    [bc] and there's lots of politics and argument about it
    [bc] and she is hardcore rationalist and dismissive of the religious people
    [bc] but in the end, she ends up having an experience that everybody doubts she had, a revelation..
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    [bc] hey ct
    [me0w] Good Afternoon Captain
    [bc] el capitano
    [Captain_Tenille] Ahoy
    [Captain_Tenille] What goes on in these parts?
    * Captain_Tenille finally got some sleep last night
    [bc] You are admirably offensive; you have won. I am offended, many times over. Now please, leave me the fuck alone. --infinitera
    [Captain_Tenille] ?
    [bc] I am not admirably offensive
    * Captain_Tenille wades through the k5rap
    [me0w] There was nothing interesting on K5 this morning
    [Captain_Tenille] Nope. Doesn't look like it.
    [Captain_Tenille] Yawn
    [Captain_Tenille] All right, time to make breakfast, I think
    [Captain_Tenille] I may be on later.
    *** Captain_Tenille has quit IRC (Quit: Making breakfast)
    [me0w] they leave so quickly
    [bc] yes
    [me0w] I made coffee, but now I find I'm too lazy to go and pour it.
    [bc] Catch 22 then
    [bc] you need some caffeine to rouse you to pour it :\
    [me0w] I need to hire someone to make it for me.
    [me0w] But this person must agree to be paid in post-it notes as I have no funds.
    [me0w] My new site format seems to be coming along. I might actually like it.
    [bc] hehe
    * bc is writing a ranty comment
    [me0w] Will it be exciting?
    [bc] maybe if you like seeing infinitera being attacked, otherwise it's prolly not your thing
    [bc] it will be 0ed though, as usual, by him
    [bc] but shant be in the hidden wueue for long
    [me0w] I will give it a 5 if it is exciting
    [bc] yay
    [bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928/ 674/65#65
    [bc] there you go me0w
    [me0w] I am giving you a 5 for the number of words you used
    [bc] woohoo!
    [bc] I quite often start typing, and type and type and type in fury
    [bc] and I don't really attack him personally till towards the end
    [bc] infinitera is a twat
    [me0w] Well, I think the "I think you a cunt" might be a bit insulting
    [bc] it's possible ;)
    [me0w] For some anyway
    [me0w] I might take that as a compliment.
    [bc] I'd just laugh and respond in kind
    [bc] I don't understand the people who get so worked up about lack of civility on the internet
    [bc] it's all just a laugh
    [me0w] It is all for my amusement
    [bc] when ubu and I met, we were calling each other cunts immediately, and being dreadfully insulting. We knew instantly we liked the other
    [me0w] That is when you know it is true love.
    [bc] indeed. I don't love ubu like a brother, I love him like the homosexual partner I never had
    [me0w] I should send flowers to celebrate your relationship.
    [bc] that would be very nice of you. The anniversary is very soon, actually
    [me0w] Brilliant!
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    [bc] hi, gurrrrl
    [gurl] hullo, you
    [me0w] Hello
    [gurl] christ i overslept
    [bc] what time is it where you are? 11:30?
    [gurl] twelve thirty
    [bc] damn firemen
    [bc] striking bastards, is what they are
    [bc] there was a housefire here, the soldiers had to break the picketlines, and 6 people were injured due to smoke inhallation. The firemen deliberately tried to stop the aid going out to the fire
    [me0w] That isn't good.
    [me0w] I can understand the strike, but preventing aid is not ethical.
    [bc] the fire service should be shut down and replaced with a nice big charity
    [bc] they get £21,000 as a starting wage, the firemen, which is well above the national average wage, After a few years, it rises considerably further, and they have already been offered an 11% raise and rejected it - they are going for 30% (!)
    [bc] for what? 99% of the time they are sitting about playing cards
    [me0w] 21,000 is far too little
    [bc] the fire service should be like the RNLI
    [bc] me0w, that's a starting wage for a newly qualified fireman
    [bc] the national average wage for everyone is £17,000
    [bc] this isn't a rich country like America, with its closer embrace of capitalism, where the national average is more like £30,000
    [me0w] I guess I just know people who make more than that.
    [me0w] I still think 21,000 is rather low
    [bc] £21,000 is perfectly decent as a starting wage
    [bc] nurses get £14,000, soldiers £16000, as starting wages
    [bc] policemen £17,000
    [me0w] Nurses should get more, as well as police men
    [me0w] The train people should get less.
    [bc] well, ideally I'm sure everybody would be getting £1,000,000 annually, but I'm not willing to see the government take more than half my earnings away to give to these people. If they don't want to work for those wages, they can switch to the private sector.
    [bc] and yes, the train sods especially suck
    [bc] they went on strike at glasgow underground forcing me to walk 6 miles through highly dodgy parts of glasgow in the rain
    [me0w] I think that there are certain professions that should be paid more ... firefighters, police, nurses, teachers
    [bc] I think it is fine, as long as the money isn't stolen by threat of violence off others to do so.
    [gurl] er, no.
    [bc] a free market would sort them out, it is only ever public sector workers that strike anyway.
    [gurl] nothing teachers do warrants more money
    [bc] they'd pay fairly
    [gurl] nurses get paid very well for their hours and labour
    [me0w] nurses are underpaid
    [gurl] at least, if the flooded nursing schools are any indication
    [bc] also, funnily enough teachers in scotland just got a 25% increase a couple of years ago. There is now a big "brain drain" of the best teachers from england to scotland. heh!
    [me0w] Which is why there are a shortage - they go places where they will be better paid
    [gurl] yes, and that is the hospital down the road
    [gurl] it is a highly paid but stressful job
    [gurl] not everyone can hack it
    [gurl] thus, the shortage
    [bc] here, all the best doctors and nurses go to America
    [bc] where they get paid decently
    [me0w] A large number of nursing students in Canada go to the US, and the Middle East - they are usually paid more than double what they make here
    [bc] we in turn import from India and scandinavia
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] but scanadinavia is supposed to be the perfect country!
    [gurl] all socialist paradise and whatnot
    [gurl] well, the countries in that region
    [bc] not judging by the delectable nurses at my local hospital, loads of whom are danish, norwegian, swedish
    [gurl] well, being raised socialist apparently doesn't kill the desire to earn a fair wage for services and all that
    [bc] norwegian especially, but I think that is because lots of norwegians come to scotland anyway, cos it is quite close
    [gurl] lord, i don't want to go bed shopping
    [bc] it certainly doesn't, gurl
    [bc] shopping in bed, or shopping for a bed?
    [gurl] for a bed
    [bc] get one that doesn't creak or have annoying springs
    [bc] the best bed I ever had was one that was a platform of wood planks, with a really thin mattress on top
    [bc] that thing was great
    [bc] prolly quite cheap, too
    [gurl] i just want a futon
    [bc] never tried one of those, are they good?
    [me0w] Get a sturdy futon
    [me0w] Over time the frame can bend
    [gurl] i was thinking a metal one
    [me0w] You'll want a thick mattress on it (if they give that option)
    [bc] cool
    * bc watches Only Fools and Horses
    [gurl] actually, i will go tomorrow since i cannot carry the sodding thing home with me
    [bc] hehe
    [gurl] i think i'll just take the bed frame from my old bed
    [gurl] and buy a new mattress
    [bc] heh. Sounds good
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    [gurl] it's a gorgeous day
    [gurl] but utterly cold and crystal clear out
    [bc] I love that
    [bc] cold and clear
    [bc] and sunny
    [bc] perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
    [bc] gurl, how did it go with that chap?
    [gurl] he friend zoned me
    [bc] ah hah
    [bc] I did that to a girl week last week after a date. It's surprisingly hard. Requires delicacy
    [gurl] so i have a perfectly nice male friend
    [bc] well that's something at least
    [bc] I have a nice big fillet steak and some English mustard
    [gurl] i have a hearty beef stew
    [bc] oh splendid
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] i am reading about the french foreign legion
    [bc] oh yes. That's France's only *professional* section of the army eh?
    [bc] I know someone who served in it for 21 years
    [gurl] it is terribly intensive
    [bc] yes
    [bc] long marching through the desert and stuff
    [gurl] and no girls allowed!
    [bc] http://britishsas.8m.com/training.html
    [bc] ^I think that is about the globally hardest training&selection for any regiment
    [bc] they are insane
    [bc] as part of it, they have the applicant (after a week of insane marching and activity) look after a pet rabbit in the mountains for a while. he is completely alone, and must forage for his own food and protect the rabbit for ages. Then, he recieves an order to kill and eat the rabbit
    [bc] quite sadistic ;)
    [gurl] haha
    [gurl] there's a kill house?!
    [bc] they are special forces
    [bc] anti-terrorist stuff is one of their duties
    [bc] storming embassies, say, like when they stormed the Iranian embassy and freed all the hostages in London in the 80's
    [bc] they were the first special forces unit in the world, created during WWII
    [gurl] lordy
    [bc] Delta Force in the US was founded in the 70's by an American officer who lobbied for it after seeing the SAS and serving in an exchange program in the UK army
    [bc] but they aren't as good. They have a slightly different ethos. Delta Force peeps tend to be really big and brawny, and their modus operandi is to be flown in on a big helicopter and shoot everything up before being flown away again
    [bc] the SAS are different, in that they believe in more traditional marching and approaching the target on foot. They tend to get dropped far away, sneak about hundreds of miles, attack, and sneak away. And they operate in teams of 8 generally
    [bc] http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/Operation%20Nimrod.ht ml
    [bc] ^that was mad
    [bc] I remember watching it on tv
    [gurl] so the sas do it properlike
    [gurl] well, more like people think such things work
    [bc] of course! ie, no hostage deaths, all terrorists dead, seemingly miraculously
    [bc] it's sort of amazing
    [bc] another famous one was the scud stuff during the gulf war
    [bc] one of their missions went wrong, they were given wrong maps
    [bc] and they were euipped for desert conditions, but it was frequently -20C and snowing etc
    [bc] and they got discovered and stormed by two lorry loads of iraqi tropps, tanks, etc, from a local base
    [bc] so the 8 of them killed ALL of them, then walked 100km overnight carrying 80lb bergens in freezing conditions
    [bc] they are sort of insane those people. Not qute normal, but very good at what they do (wholesale, efficient slaughter)
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    [gurl] damn
    [bc] and also, cos it is UK army, it is not just UKians, they select from many countries in the commonwealth
    [gurl] reminds me of stephen king's gunslinger
    [bc] so canadians and australians and NZers and Nepalians can see the SAS as the peak of their career, if they are good enough to make it through selection
    [Captain_Tenille] SAS?
    [bc] yes
    [gurl] british special forces
    [Captain_Tenille] Aha
    * Captain_Tenille always thought MI5 and MI6 were cool acronyms
    [bc] hehe
    [Captain_Tenille] Although for the longest time I thought it was M16
    [Captain_Tenille] Which seemed odd
    [bc] ct, during WWI it went from MI1 all the way to MI20
    [bc] also, MI5 & MI6 didn't officially exist until very recently
    [Captain_Tenille] I was just about to ask what happened to MI1-4
    [gurl] heh
    [bc] having no constitutional checks, the government is free to deny they exist at all
    [gurl] haha
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    [gurl] oh look@
    [gurl] er, nevermind
    [Captain_Tenille] The US gov denied the existence of the NSA forever.
    [bc] same as SAS, which didn't officially exist till the 90's,, and is still v.secret
    [Captain_Tenille] I don't think they officially acknowledge the Delta Force
    [bc] the SAS are fun because they are the first special forces group, and most other western country's special forces groups were founded, usually much later, on that model, often by officers who saw the SAS in exchange programmes and thought it a jolly good idea
    [bc] Delta Force being a case in point, in the 70's. Same with Germany's, france's. Greece's, Israel's, etc etc
    [bc] but SAS are teh best!
    [gurl] it is impressive what humans can be taught to do
    [Captain_Tenille] Is SAS just Green Beret style special forces, or does it include PSYOPS and Civil Affairs type stuff
    [Captain_Tenille] ?
    [bc] that's the other thing with the SAS, the complete lack of traditional army discipline, which was very new
    [bc] ct: it is mostly military and anti-terrorist
    [bc] there is another group that specialises in civil intelligence
    [bc] that sometimes work with the SAS, but the SAS are purely a military machine
    [Captain_Tenille] Civil Affairs handles the military's relations with the governments of the countries they're in.
    [Captain_Tenille] Should said government fall, they set up a caretaker government in it's place.
    * Captain_Tenille 's dad did that for a long time
    [bc] coo
    [gurl] bc, my sibling is all rotting in the county jail
    [bc] haha
    [bc] what'd he do?
    [gurl] his warrant caught up to him
    [bc] damn
    [gurl] he owes about 400£ in fines
    [Captain_Tenille] I just found out yesterday, actually, what my dad did after he worked as a codebreaker during the Vietnam War.
    [county] bc, you've millions, get gurl's brother out of the clink.
    [bc] he deserves it, county
    [bc] Contributing to the skill of the SAS is the Operations Research Unit which develops unique equipment for use by the SP team.
    [county] That's beside the point. She'll be indebted to you.
    [bc] ^^hehe, that's like "m" in james bond
    [gurl] bc, he found a job
    [gurl] and now he will lose it
    [gurl] because of extended absence
    [bc] damn it
    [bc] what's he fined for?
    [Captain_Tenille] Aren't you guys going to ask what my dad did?
    [bc] isn't that classified, ct?
    [Captain_Tenille] He didn't tell me much.
    [gurl] speeding ticket, i think
    [Captain_Tenille] Just enough to make me boggle.
    [Captain_Tenille] zuul, he?
    [zuul] he is not
    [bc] but he was army, eh? mad
    [Captain_Tenille] Wouldn't tell me what he did
    [gurl] then why build us up so cruelly]?
    [Captain_Tenille] NSA. That's all we would say.
    [Captain_Tenille] er, he
    [county] Come on, bc, give her brother a chance.
    [county] He's trying to turn is life around!
    [county] He's in jail because of ancient history.
    [bc] you're right county. I will bail him right away.
    [county] Good man.
    [county] I'm sure gurl will be very grateful.
    [gurl] some woman is presently trying to adopt me
    [county] But you're too old for that.
    [bc] is she older, and with grown up children who have flown the nest?
    [gurl] yeah, pretty much
    [gurl] except her grown kids are still in the nest
    [county] And she wants more.
    [gurl] she thinks i'm a unique snowflake
    [gurl] and wants to feed and clothe me and all that
    [bc] weird, gurl
    [gurl] aye
    [bc] weird weird weird
    [gurl] and the annoying guy at work who kept trying to pay me to go out with him
    [county] So are you going to take her up on it?
    [gurl] he got in a horrible car wreck and was fired
    [gurl] she is rather like mother
    [gurl] except less manipulative and deceitful
    [county] Did he get fired for getting in the car wreck?
    [gurl] not quite
    [gurl] he was fired for trying to come back to work
    [gurl] with a broken neck
    [bc] he offered you money? heh, how desperate
    [gurl] well, he is married
    [gurl] and also i don't want him
    [gurl] but he just couldn't seem to accept that
    [bc] "Please come out with me?" - "No." - "I'll give you £500."
    [county] That's really harsh.
    [bc] it's damned right, gurl
    [county] He was so dedicated to his work that he wanted to come in, but he got fired instead!
    [bc] I'm proud of you!
    [county] Couldn't they just tell him to go home and sleep it off?
    [gurl] he got in the accident whilst drunk
    [gurl] and it was off duty anyhow
    [gurl] so they can easily get him on inability to perform
    [gurl] and he could hardly even sit down
    [gurl] the doctor hadn't signed a release
    [gurl] so however cruel it sounds, they had every reasonable right to fire him
    [county] Still, to be unemployed and mangled in these times is difficult. He'll probably end up on the street.
    [gurl] no, his wife is utterly devoted and loving
    [gurl] and makes piles of money
    [gurl] she wanted only to take care of him
    [county] He has a devoted wife who makes lots of money, but wants a little on the side too?
    [county] That seems risky.
    [gurl] but he wanted to go drinking and sleep with other women
    [county] I should find a rich, devoted wife.
    [county] Having one could be convenient.
    [gurl] it was the only thing that saved him
    [county] Some guys have all the luck.
    [bc] hehe
    [gurl] i am sure bc would happily arrange for you to acquire a wealthy wife
    [bc] it's true. There's a lucky sod I know who's wife is a civil engineer making tons of cash. All he does is footer about spending her money on computers and crap. They love each other very much and seem very happy. Sickening, it is.
    [county] Yeah, I need someone to take care of me!
    [county] I'm tired of being responsible.
    [bc] BRB, mobile shop
    [gurl] have a beer
    [gurl] actually, have five or six
    [county] What's a mobile shop?
    [county] Anyway, that's too many beers.
    [gurl] well, however many will intoxicate you
    [gurl] women like to help men in that state
    [county] Haha!
    [county] What nonsense.
    [county] Women hate drunks.
    [gurl] depends on the drunk boy
    [gurl] i find some of them endearing
    [bc] damn it's cold
    [county] Well, what do you expect? Your house was built before heat was invented
    [county] What's a mobile shop, though?
    [bc] I am an endearing drunk boy. My cold reserve melts away, revealing a vulnerable and heartbreakingly fascinating character. I find that women are much more interested in me when drunk, than when sober.
    [county] uh huh
    [bc] county, a shop on wheels that drives around selling things. It parks outside my front door
    [county] What sort of things?
    [bc] in this instance, I got dunhills and Irn Bru, and a bottle of Gin
    [county] So you've gone back to the bottle.
    [county] tsk tsk.
    [bc] all sorts, county. There are many of them, in fact. Soem are mobile butchers, others mobile grocers and fishmongers. This one sells everyday necessities
    [county] Like I said, though, some guys have all the luck. When sober, I'm undesirable. When intoxicated, I'm undesirable in a different way.
    [county] Everyday necessities like dunhills, Irn Bru, and gin.
    [bc] Yup.
    [county] dunhills sound like cigarettes. What's Irn Bru?
    [bc] they sell what's sold most in the local community
    [bc] county: http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
    [gurl] what's a good poll topick before i hotfoot it elsewhere?
    [bc] poll? hmmn
    [county] I don't think I've ever seen any of that, bc.
    [bc] favourite spirit?
    [gurl] irn bru is only in scotland
    [county] That would be all you can think of.
    [bc] county, well, it is actually illegal in the US, the FDA won't allow it to be sold there
    [bc] so it isn't surprising
    [county] gurl, "Favorite condiment to lick off nipples?"
    [bc] it contains too much iron, or something
    [county] Be sure to include horseradish as an option.
    [wsl3] county: Hot Thai Red Curry
    [bc] it's very very popular in russia though
    [Captain_Tenille] What on earth is it? And why is it illegal?
    [bc] ct, it's just a soft drink. It's illegal cos the FDA don't like it's iron content
    [wsl3] What is?
    [Captain_Tenille] Ah
    [gurl] man, i suppose i am not cut out for daytime drinking
    [gurl] my tummy hurts now
    [wsl3] gurl: Have some nice cock. That should solve the problem, but only if you get all the way down and get the protien suprise at the end.
    [gurl] i don't see how
    [gurl] protein makes my tummy hurt
    [wsl3] They'll cancel each other out.
    [gurl] i somehow doubt this.
    [gurl] i love my diary.
    [wsl3] Nah, I can show you if you want! :-)
    [county] Give up, wsl3. The fact is, you can only score with fatties.
    [wsl3] give it up county, the fact is, I don't care what you think. :-)
    [county] That doesn't make any sense, idiot. I wasn't trying to influence your opinion.
    [bc] I love your diary too, gurl =)))
    [gurl] hehe
    [wsl3] county: Uh huh.
    [gurl] there is nothing wrong with fatties, if they have attractive features
    [gurl] and don't look like useless lumps of crap
    [wsl3] Bingo!
    * wsl3 is a FFA
    [gurl] fatty fucker anonymous?
    [wsl3] LOL
    [wsl3] FFA == Fullfigured Female Admirer
    [gurl] oh god
    [county] Vlad's fatties look like useless lumps of crap, gurl.
    [gurl] i HATE those
    [wsl3] county is a useless lump of crap
    [county] These women aren't fat, gurl, they're disgustingly hyper-obese.
    [wsl3] gurl - hate what? Voluptous women?
    [county] 300lbs.
    [gurl] a girl can be voluptuous without being heavy
    [bc] FFA give BBWs TLC and have a GSOH
    [county] A three hundred pound woman isn't voluptuous.
    [county] She's hyper-obese.
    [wsl3] county: I know lots of attractive 300lb women.
    [gurl] no, that's a porker
    [gurl] i don't know any.
    [county] You don't know any!
    [county] You're delusional.
    [wsl3] Depends - what if she's like 6' tall?
    [gurl] and i know some decent looking big girls
    [gurl] then she shouldn't exceed 250
    [wsl3] gurl: Top size?
    [gurl] and that only if she is super muscular
    [wsl3] gurl: Nah - I've seen women as high as 400lbs that I'd do.
    [gurl] well, men are less picky about that
    [county] I'm not.
    [county] I'm not interested in girls much over 150.
    [gurl] well, that leaves the taller ones out
    [gurl] unless they are very slim
    [Captain_Tenille] Tall girls are overrated
    [wsl3] gurl: That depends - in general I don't find a woman attractive under 175 or so unless she is stunningly beautiful and has a personallity to match.
    [Captain_Tenille] *under* 175?
    [gurl] that is a shame for you, wsl3
    [county] I don't much like taller girls, gurl.
    [wsl3] under, yes.
    [gurl] i personally think too many people are heavy
    [county] Much beyond 5'6" is too tall, I think.
    * Captain_Tenille 's gf is 5'
    [wsl3] gurl: I don't find it a shame at all! I have a full, active, loving sex life, thank you very much. :-) lol
    [gurl] but that said, i don't mind heavy people who don't whine about it
    [gurl] of course you do
    * wsl3 doesn't whine - he has no cheese to go with it.
    [gurl] i know lots of plain couples that can't get enough of each other
    [Captain_Tenille] Off to get a hair cut.
    [Captain_Tenille] Ta ta.
    [gurl] which is great for them
    [gurl] hasta
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    [bc] woohoo
    [bc] there's nothing wrong with plain people. Or even ugly people, if they are self confident enough and interesting and especially good natured enough
    [gurl] ok, i have to fix someone's cd rom
    [bc] happy hacking!
    [gurl] well, that is true of anyone
    [county] Aye, and there's the rub, bc.
    [gurl] there is no hacking involved!
    [county] It's easier to become beautiful than it is to become interesting or good natured.
    [gurl] it's purely a mechanical issue
    [county] If one isn't already.
    [bc] you are fixing a technical computer device
    [gurl] bof, i am fixing a thingy with serrated wheels
    [bc] with what, you say?
    [bc] that sounds complicated
    [gurl] little wheels with chopped bits
    [county] A serrated wheel? Isn't that a gear?
    [bc] I'm a man, I don't understand technical things, I just leave it to women
    [gurl] yeah, i guess
    [gurl] two little gears that aren't spinning the drive out
    [county] Well, get that cute little can of yours over there and start fixing things!
    [county] Chop chop!
    [gurl] i have to finish my beer
    [gurl] ;P
    [county] bc, what should I do with myself today?
    [bc] I think you should go to the pub
    *** gurl is now known as cdromgurl
    [county] It's kind of dismal out.
    [bc] and drink beer, play darts, and watch the match
    [cdromgurl] yes, do go, since i cannot
    [cdromgurl] wave
    [bc] that's why I didn't suggest the park, county
    [bc] bye happy hackess!
    [county] I don't know where any pubs are. In fact, I think they're illegal in Seattle.
    [bc] http://www.nwbrewpage.com/wabpubs/WestSea.html
    [bc] go there
    [wsl3] lol
    [bc] though I must say, the huge billboard sign at the front puts me off
    [bc] here, they just have a tiny sign
    [bc] I suppose Americans insist on the 25foot billboard treatment
    [county] That's really far away.
    [bc] get the metro then!
    [county] Anyway, going to a pub is way too social.
    [bc] you don't need to talk to anyone
    [bc] clearly, you aren't very familiar with pubs at all
    [bc] they can be profoundly antisocial
    [county] Of course I don't, but I feel odd being out by myself.
    [county] There isn't any point in going out to be anti-social.
    [wsl3] Go nude. That will get some attention.
    [county] Shut up.
    [wsl3] no
    [wsl3] You can forget about that.
    [wsl3] If I'm in front of my computer, and I see something I want to respond to, I will - same as you.
    [county] Shut up, really.
    [wsl3] No.
    [wsl3] really.
    [bc] blargle
    [wsl3] bc: What's new with Kip? Has anyone seen him?
    [bc] heis in London, that's all I know
    [county] I'm going to go shower.
    [county] When I come back, I'm going to have some booze, a pastrami sandwich, and pour at my innermost hopes and dreams.
    [county] "out"
    [wsl3] ah
    [bc] looking forward to it
    [wsl3] Well, I'll be quite for that.
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    [Sulla] hey momo

  10. Amherst-Fag and the Prick Vladinator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    Subject: [k22320inchfan] Vladinator needs a beatdown
    Date sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:04:50 -0400
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
    (This is CP0029)

    I'm trying to give george his account back
    (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=trolltalk&cid =2755) so I make up an
    appropriate throwaway email address and post it. Vladinator, being the
    prick he is, sends me this email:

    >From Ê"Anony Mouse" <anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com> ÊÊ ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000
    >17:44:17 -0500 Subject: Êokay I'm writing you To: Ê
    From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: Ê25
    From anony_mouse1969@hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 18: Ê46
    [snip]
    >X-Originating-IP: Ê[209.96.17.98]
    >Date: ÊMon, 23 Oct 2000 17
    >MIME-Version: Ê1.0
    >Content-Type: Êmultipart/alternative;
    >boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C03D18.DD858B 40" X-Priority: Ê3
    >X-MSMail-Priority: ÊNormal X-Mailer: ÊMicrosoft Outlook Express
    >5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: ÊProduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
    >Message-ID: Ê X-OriginalArrivalTime: Ê23 Oct 2000 22
    >
    >okay I (george) wrote you so can I have my account back please?

    Now, anyone with a half a brain and a reverse-ip lookup can see that that
    originating IP corresponds to postnet.com and Vlad's own account
    (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:home.postnet .com/~wsl3/+vladinator).
    If that's a permanent ip address, then vlad deserves whatever he gets
    from anyone here who is more learned in the h4xx0r ways than I.

    (This is CP0029)

  11. Amherst-Fag and the Mae Ling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From: cptroll
    To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
    Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:03:43 -0400
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org

    (This is CP0032)

    Aren't you still doing the Arkansas thing? Doesn't jive....

    Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:

    >Shut up, WILLIAM HENRY GATES. How does STEVE BALMER'S
    >SEMEN taste??? Do you enjoy that AIDS-INFESTED JISM as you
    >MASTURBATE to PHOTOGRAPHS of YOUNG CHILDREN?
    >
    >On 27 Oct 00, at 14:22, rev wrote:
    >
    >> I knew you were gdb you bastard!
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
    >> To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
    >> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:17 PM
    >> Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
    >>
    >>
    >> > You should try MAXIMUM LINUX. It has MAE LING MAK. There's
    >> > a picture of her in every issue wearing nothing but a VAIO! And the
    >> > VAIO runs Linux! 'Cept she can't get the sound to work.
    >> >
    >> > MAE LING MAK is a SECURITY EXPERT. She wrote a
    >> > SECURITY ARTICLE for MAXIMUM LINUX about ADVANCED
    >> > SECURITY. She suggested that you PROTECT your e-mail from
    >> > HACKERS, you do this:
    >> >
    >> > alias pine='blahblahblah'
    >> > alias foo='pine'
    >> >
    >> > If you do this ADVANCED SECURITY stuff, an EVIL HACKER who
    >> > breaks into your account an tries to read your e-mail with PINE will
    >> > get an error when he types "pine", not knowing that to get into PINE,
    >> > he ACTUALLY has to type "foo"! But MAE LING MAK knows, so SHE can
    >> > read her e-mail but the EVIL HACKERS can't.
    >> >
    >> > Isn't MAE LING MAK smart? I like her ass the best.
    >> >
    >> > Also, you need to GO READ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
    >> >
    >> > You don't not understand the BASIC CONCEPTS of FREE
    >> > SOFTWARE. You don't understand the difference between
    >> > PHYSICAL VALUE and INTELLECTUAL VALUE. A MAGAZINE
    >> > has physical value, it costs MONEY to COPY and DISTRIBUTE. It
    >> > exists as a PHYSICAL OBJECT, therefore it has PHYSICAL
    >> > VALUE. SOFTWARE does not. It can be COPIED and
    >> > DISTRIBUTED for FREE. Some EVIL SOCIALIST SOFTWARE
    >> > COMPANIES try to CHARGE for software ANYWAY, and place
    >> > RESTRICTIONS on the user's RIGHT to USE, and DISTRIBUTE it!
    >> > They assign INTELLECTUAL VALUE to the software. This is
    >> > morally WRONG. Get it RIGHT, fsckwit.
    >> >
    >> > Also, you're using MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EXPRESS, which
    >> > proves you're STUPID.
    >> >
    >> > You can't compare a MAGAZINE to SOFTWARE, just like you
    >> > can't compare YOUR MOTHER to a FEMALE. They're completely
    >> > different things.
    >> >
    >> > SUCK IT DOWN AND CHOKE ON IT, AND DIE. SUCK IT DOWN
    >> > AND CHOKE ON IT. SUCK IT DOWN. SUCK IT. SUCK. I'LL
    >> > BURN YOU ALL ALIVE. I'LL BURN YOU ALL. I'LL BURN YOU.
    >> > BURN YOU ALL. BURN YOU. BURN. BURN. BURN.
    >> > BURNING. BURNING. BURNING BURNING FIRE. DEATH AND
    >> > PAIN AND FIRE.

    (This is CP0032)

  12. Slashdot Trolling History - Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
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    From: Barry Corrigan <barry@bjcorrigan.fsnet.co.uk>
    To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
    Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] talk about smoking crack...
    Date sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:16 +0000
    Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com

    I find it interesting that it is possible to extend your ego to the internet to the degree that siggy seems to have done. I haven't used the
    internet for very long (thats the UK for you), but I can certainly see how its possible to end up actually caring about some online persona.
    Personally, I don't give a shit, but thats because I don't have an online persona that is actually me (does this post negate that? I'm not telling you ;). If someone had created a 'KTB' character on k5 before I had, I would probably have been annoyed, but only because I may want to extend the character, insofar as I have developed it, onto k5 as well. The thing is, *I* am not really on the internet much at all. It seems that Siggy is, though, from what I can tell. He seems to be really into writing those torrid diaries, and exploring rather private parts of his personality in the most public of places - such as his sexuality, as 'Going For -100 Karma' publicised on /. If he really is exposing his true self to the k5 audience, this may be why he has become so defensive about the 'Bojay Iverson' thing - I would certainly be in a panic in his situation, if I thought the online world could reach into the real world and give me a kicking. I don't think I'll ever write diaries on k5, or if I do, they won't be about me, thats for sure. It freaks me out a little how easy it is to get information about someone on the internet, and the last thing I want want is an online diary, that will never expire, being accessible to all and sundry. I don't know, I just find the idea of posting your personal thoughts for all the world to see rather strange, if not a little
    creepy. Perhaps its a Britain-America thing, I've heard that Americans are not shy, in fact sometimes I think they have never heard of the concept of embarrassment. So there you go ;)

    Sorry for this bollocks.

    On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
    > Hi. I couldn't stay away, so I scrounged up some 'net
    > access. Hi.
    >
    > I was talking with rusty indirectly about this, last
    > night. He was asking me why I wanted k5 Anne Marie's
    > nick -- that is, why I wanted to carry that "slashdot
    > baggage" over with me to k5, the same way siggy did.
    > It's funny, that way. I wanted k5 Anne Marie because
    > it's a lovely character troll of mine. Siggy wanted
    > "Signal 11" because it's the only way he's ever gotten
    > a lot of (any) attention. He's afraid to be just
    > Bojay Iverson, and it really comes across.
    >
    > --- Barry Corrigan
    > wrote:
    > >
    > > Wow. I think I understand now why everyone seems to
    > > dislike Signal 11 so much.
    > > I mean, that has to be one of the most arrogant
    > > things I've read, ohhh, all
    > > week!
    > > It was also extremely funny. Does he think he is an
    > > internet celebrity or
    > > something? In that post he came across as a jaded
    > > Hollywood star.
    > > Oh well, back to the horribleness of Java...
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, you wrote:
    > > >
    > >
    > http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=comments&sid=2000/12/2 0/21124/277&cid=4#4
    > > >
    > > > "Most of the best trolls on slashdot, I suspect,
    > > were inspired by me. "
    > > >
    > > > i actually feel sorry for the guy. he needs some
    > attention.

  13. Re:Slashdot Social Experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hmm, could it be due to the fact that we rely on a decent summary? In addition to that, could it be that we find enough issues with the one line you posted? Hmm, probably!!

  14. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    Michael on tour with Dokken

    t-shirt reads: "rokken with dokken and suken kokken"
    reverse: "i'll roXors your open sores coXors"

    --

    befoe me

  15. Re:Hehehehe... by gmack · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Ahh yes Novell.. lots of posibillites to screw that up :)

    Apperently my teacher defined his backup admin account by not giving it permissions anywhere.

    I screwed that completly by accident when I added him with read only access to my home dir and then removed the global classrom account("room12"). I don't think he figgured out what I did until I told him what I did without actually admitting that did something with a side affect of disruting classes for the entire afternoon.

    I spend the entire year poking holes in his security. I'm sure he was glad when I left but the upside was that his system was actually secure.

    And he was one of the better ones.

    2 years later I found an apple printer while portscanning the school's ip block. It belonged to the mac lab teacher who also ran the school's dialup service and telnetted to it .. first thing it did was demand I set an admin password...

    I think school's problems are usually that they stick whatever teacher has free time and a passable knowlege as the admin.

  16. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by dryopterix · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Linux poops on YOU!