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85 Big Ideas that Changed the World

ccnull writes "Forbes just put out its well thought-out list of 85 breakthroughs since 1917 (sneakers) that have revolutionized the way we live. This is interesting on a number of levels -- crazy trivia (the microprocessor and the answering machine invented in the same year!?), a reminder of the past (the modem: 1962), and a frightening realization that not much of interest has come out of the last 10 years (a whopping 4 of the 85 ideas). Easily digestible and worth discussing."

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  1. Recent Ideas by SpamJunkie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason that our more recent ideas aren't on the list is because we don't know which are the good ones yet. Hindsight is needed to appreciate what we've been doing.

    1. Re:Recent Ideas by nedwidek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The best example (from the list) of this is 1947 Cell Phone. How long did it take for that to revolutionize the world?

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    2. Re:Recent Ideas by aardwolf64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just because you're technologically averse doesn't mean that cell phones didn't change the world...

      If I refused to own a television, could we discount TV? How about if we find a cure for cancer? If I never get cancer, does it fail to revolutionize the world???

    3. Re:Recent Ideas by Chiasmus_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason that our more recent ideas aren't on the list is because we don't know which are the good ones yet. Hindsight is needed to appreciate what we've been doing.

      Case in point: the article talks about The Modem: 1962. You really think a list compiled in 1972 would include that?

      It really does make me wonder about the galaxy of technology that has already been invented, has a functional prototype, and which no member of the public will ever see until the year 2045. If you had the means to seek out all that stuff, you'd probably find that our society is 50 years more advanced than it appears.

      For example, some of what I've read has indicated that recent revolutions in turbine technology (within the last 3 years) make it possible to run the world's power grid entirely with windmills on farms and hydroelectric power. How long do you think it'll take that innovation to become significant to our lives?

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    4. Re:Recent Ideas by _Spirit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Funny how A Clockwork Orange is always described as a (insert some phrase here) film instead of as a very good and equally disturbing book by Anthony Burgess.

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    5. Re:Recent Ideas by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe it was because he had this realization while watching the film, not reading the book?

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  2. BUSINESS breakthroughs by upstateguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Forbes lists their top 85 *business* breakthroughs...which slants things so that sheetrock is listed whereas the theory of relativity is not.

    1. Re:BUSINESS breakthroughs by micromoog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sheetrock has had a far greater impact on the world than the theory of relativity, regardless of its comparative simplicity.

  3. Add to the list... by kitzilla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ..."fast, free" website registration. Like the one Forbes used to run me off before reading the article.

    Bet it didn't list microwave popcorn, did it? Now THAT is progress we can all get behind!

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  4. RJ-What? by infinite9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone else notice how the ethernet slide has a picture of an rj-11?

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  5. Re:Lack of Recent Good Ideas by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    13) Discourage common courtesy - glorify rudeness and arrogance as being "forceful and dynamic". However, make sure that anybody who dares to critisize somebody for their rudeness is called "intolerant". Manners are the oil that lubricates society - throw as much grit in there as you can.

  6. Perspective, and Causation by cribcage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Two things to consider:

    1.) As other posters have written: Hindsight is needed to appreciate breakthroughs which "change...lives in a profound way." If there have been any such breakthroughs, recently (no, I'm not suggesting that Segway will qualify), they haven't yet had time to be fairly judged.

    2.) I think it's also worth considering that recent years, more than the past, have seen our "technological progress" move more toward improving existing tools rather than inventing new ones. The obvious example is the internet -- now that its infrastructure is present, and it has been adopted into a large percentage of homes and businesses, we're seeing real and profound development occur. Amazon, eBay, Bibliofind -- hell, even pr0n -- aren't "inventions," per se, but they certainly represent new developments which I suspect may be seen as quite impactful.

    Also, the past ten or fifteen years have seen a progressive slide in our economy from product-oriented business to service-oriented business. Maybe it is true that we're not pumping out wold-changing inventions (the Foreman grill and the Popeil pasta maker aside) at the same rate we were a century ago; but I think that it has to be acknowledged that we are also offering (and consuming) services which didn't exist in the past. It's worth considering whether the rate of decline in our production of "inventions" is perhaps matched by our rate of growth in providing "services."

    Finally, although I think the above is more relevant, there's the obligatory shot at the Clinton generation: One of the notions held by that generation, I think, is the idea of "quick profit" -- and specifically, that it's quicker, cheaper and generally more efficient to improve upon an existing product, rather than produce something entirely new. I think that generation, as compared to the economic drivers of the 1940s, have been more interested in taking charge of what's around them than developing anew. So if we're seeing less inventions and more "version 2.4"...well, I'm not surprised.

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  7. On the last day of 1899.... by parlyboy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...the New York Times ran a front-page article listing the "most important inventions" of the previous 100 years.

    Number one on that list? Not the steam engine or the telegraph, the cotton gin or the McCormick reaper, or even newcomers like electric lights and the telephone. According to the New York Times, the most important invention of the previous century was chemical "frictionless" matches.

    I suppose this decision makes a little more sense in a world where most homes and businesses are still heated by coal and lit by kerosene. (And yes, I know it is a bitch to light things with flint and steel.) But I wonder how much of this article will be considered laughable or just plain stupid in 100 years.

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  8. Re:The problem with recent ideas... by donutello · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to disagree with you on that. Sex is a huge tool for personal gratification to us as humans. As such, the ability to have sex is a huge component of the quality of life.

    Given that over half the human population in this country is over 40, something that enables them to gratify themselves is a great innovation. You might not appreciate it now but you will when you are older.

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  9. Re:why listen to Ben Stein?!!? by donutello · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the same guy who hosts the pointless trivia
    show on Comedy Central "Win Ben Stein's Money".


    Yes, let's not discuss the ideas. Let's attack the source instead.

    The winnings in Ben Steins show are paltry. The maximum the winner can make is $5,000 - hardly a sum of money you can get rich of. On the other hand, the show provides entertainment (which is the purpose of TV) while delving into the knowledge of history, politics, art, religion and science.

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  10. Re:why listen to Ben Stein?!!? by SupahVee · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is the same guy who hosts the pointless trivia
    show on Comedy Central "Win Ben Stein's Money".


    Yes, and the reason it isn't on CBS is that it is, in reality, acutally, COMEDY! It's a joke, he knows it, the contestants know it. It's not like these people are the same ignorant dirtsticks that are STILL showing up for The Price Is Right after 30 frickin years. These social rejects havent left the confort of their sofa in so long, they honestly can't tell that a can Lysol is 2.59? Jesus!

    At least it shows that someone has a sense of humor, and a pretty good one in fact. Just look at the difference between Adam Corolla on The Man Show, and Adam Corolla on LoveLine (NOT the eMpTyVee version). While he clearly has a good time on both, one is very clearly a joke, and the other sometimes offers some pretty serious advice to people who need it.

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  11. GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!! by The+Famous+Druid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real reason you have to wait a few years before listing it, is that you need to let peoples memories fade a bit before you can claim it was an American invention.

    Looking through the list, the inventions fall into 4 categories.

    1. American inventions, where their origin is made clear. They're quite careful to always list where the inventions came from, along the lines of "(asian/eastern european name) of the University of (somewhere in America)"
    2.Foreign inventions, where no mention of their inventors nationality is made. Fleming, the inventor of penicillin is one example.
    3. Foreign inventions that are credited to Americans who came along later. Television and computers are two examples.
    4. Foreign inventions that are credited to their actual inventors, and nationality acknowledged. I counted 3.

    What is it with Americans?
    Why do you feed the need to claim the credit for everything?

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  12. Heavy overemphasis on IT by ynotds · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I live and love IT, but really, it seemed near half the list was some or other minor step in the march of IT towards world domination, with some side bets on medicine, motor cars and financial instruments.

    From memory, food got three mentions (frozen, micorwaved and fast/franchised) and construction two (tract housing and Gyprock).

    What about glass skinned skyscrapers? If you used the approach they used to IT, I'm sure there could be several more discrete innovations which have made our modern CBDs possible.

    But beyond that, and even more essentially American (at least before the rise of China in the last decade) is the interconnected web of manufacturing industry where things like JIT and TQM, of even, in its day, the humble fax, have made a huge difference.

    I dunno what I can do but chuckle when a publication like Forbes starts to see the whole world as an IT application. WIRED I can imagine.

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