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Mac OS X Dec 2002 Developer Tools

SkeeterMac writes "Apple today released the December 2002 developer tools, available for download for ADC Members. Among the list of updates is Project Builder 2.1 with 'better CVS support' -- maybe this one will let me specify the CVSROOT!"

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  1. Re:Lemme tell ya... by andrewski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that the GNU-Darwin folk think that they should be on equal footing with Apple - deciding together what direction the system should go. In reality, however, one realizes that Darwin is Apple's system. They decide what happens to the OS, what direction it takes, &c.

    Maybe they expect their move to 'force' Apple to open source everything, so they can port it to X86. Gee, that'd be a great business move. Just make all their hardware redundant - after all, if they did that, anybody could install OS X on their generic PC.

    In the meantime, I would hope that the Gnu-Darwin people learn about GNUstep - a GPL'd implementation of Openstep which could enable many OS X applications (not all mind you) to run on most any OS with a simple recompile.

    I must agree with you that this move make no sense at all. Why would anybody have any reason to run an orphaned OS, stripped of most of the things that distinguish it from any other Free *nix, and exclusively on a different platform than most of the installed Darwin systems run?!? Seriously, you GNU-Darwin folk should find a new crack dealer. I think your shit is contaminated with the stupids.

  2. Re:Free for developers... by ProfKyne · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd consider shifting to OS X if it weren't for rediculous charges like this. My dev tools are free

    Last I heard, Visual Basic isn't free. All 250+MB of the Apple Developer Tools didn't cost me a cent.

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  3. Re:Free for developers... by phyxeld · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Guess what, troll? Membership is free. You can pay for membership too but there is a free developer program that you can join, for free, even, and download the developer CD, for free. Like without paying. Free as in beer. Free as in love. Free as a bird. Free as the word between "fart" and "fuck" in the dictionary.

    Sure, it's free as in beer. It's free as in newyorktimes.com. It's not free as in speech, or free as in linux. In order to even view the source code, or get apple's binaries of gcc, you have to sign up and give them your personal info (which, of course, you can lie about, but you shouldn't have to!). And in the signup process you have to agree to all kinds of legal BS in addition to the already restrictive Apple Public Source license. And even after all that, you're of course not allowed to redistribute it (if I'm wrong here please point me to a non-apple mirror of these new dev tools and I'll stand corrected).

    So sure, you can make up fake info for your account, and ignore all the legal blather. You can also get a pirated copy of Jaguar or WinXP pretty easily for no more cost than a linux ISO. That doesn't make them free. Some of us still have principals, and to us, content on the Apple Developer site is not Free.

    Now I'm off to download my new non-free dev tools from Apple.com, where my zipcode is 90210 and my email address is @yahoo.com :)

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