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Red Hat Linux 8 Bible

davorg contributes this review of Wiley's new Red Hat Linux 8 Bible, writing "I've never been much of a fan of large computer books and, to be honest, this one hasn't done much to change my opinion. These large books often seem a little confused about their target audience. They often cover everything from very basic concepts to very complex ones, and I don't really believe that anyone really needs that breadth of coverage. Or, at least, not all at the same time and from the same book." You'll find the rest of Dave's review below. Red Hat Linux 8 Bible author Christopher Negus pages 1062 publisher Wiley rating 6 reviewer davorg ISBN 0764549685 summary Wide but shallow overview of Red Hat Linux 8.0

This book is a great example of that. It comes complete with three CDs containing Red Hat Linux (which, I assume, are the same as or very similar to the three that come with Red Hat's own shrink-wrapped product) and it therefore starts with installing Red Hat Linux. However, some thousand or so pages later, the same book is talking about some really quite advanced systems administration tasks. I'm really not sure that the same audience will need both of those ends of the spectrum.

Let's take a look at the contents in more detail:

Chapter 1 gives a useful review of Red Hat Linux. It pretty much assumes that the reader knows nothing about Linux and goes into some detail about what Linux is and where it comes from. It even takes time out at one point to explain what an operating system is. The book does score a few early points for knowing the difference between "hackers" and "crackers" and using the terms correctly. This chapter ends with a more detailed look at Red Hat Linux and some of the changes that were introduced with version 8.0. Chapter 2 covers the installation of Red Hat Linux. It does a good job of explaining this in a way that would be clear to someone with no previous knowledge of how to do this.

Chapter 3 is the start of the second major section of the book which introduces the day-to-day use of Red Hat Linux. In chapter 3 we look at logging into the system and get an introduction to using Unix from the command line. Chapter 4 goes into a similar level of detail on using the two dominant GUI environments -- Gnome and KDE. For a beginner, it may have made more sense to have these chapters the other way round as most Red Hat installations will boot straight into a GUI environment and one of Red Hat's changes for version 8.0 was to make it far harder to work out how to get a shell window open.

Chapter 5 starts to look at at Linux applications. It begins with a table of common Windows applications and their Linux counterparts. It then goes on to discuss finding, downloading and installing new applications where, to my mind, it would have been more sensible to first look at using some of the pre-installed applications. The chapter also includes details on using the Red Hat Packager Manager (rpm) and running Windows applications using WINE.

Chapters 6 to 9 each look at a separate application area and present a very brief overview of the applications available in that area. Chapter 6 is about producing documents, chapter 7 about games, chapter 8 about multimedia and chapter 9 about the Internet. In all of these chapters the overviews are necessarily very short and it's hard to see how anyone could get much useful work done after reading them. It would be better if the chapters contained references to further reading, but they don't even mention the man pages.

Chapter 10 starts the next section of the book, which is about system administration. It contains a useful overview of a number of the most common administrative tasks like mounting disk drives, monitoring system usage or setting the date and time. Chapter 11 is about administering users. Chapter 12 looks at automating system tasks. It includes an introduction to shell scripting and a useful description of the start-up and shutdown cycle. Chapter 13 covers backing up and restoring files. Chapter 14 is possibly the most useful chapter in the book for the complete Linux beginner as it contains an overview of security issues. This is particularly important with the increase in the number of people who leave their computers permanently attached to their broadband connections.

The forth and final section looks at networking, with chapters on setting up a LAN, a print server, a file server, a mail server and many other shared resources. This section also includes a chapter on getting your network connected to the internet. As with much of the rest of the book, space constraints prevent these chapters from going into great depth, and there are very few references to other material.

So what did I think overall? Well, as I said, it's too big. But on the other hand it's too small. It's too big in that it covers such a wide range of topics that very few people are likely to be interested in all of it. It's too small in that it just doesn't have the space to go into great depth about most of the topics is covers. I think that it would be far more useful if was three books: Red Hat 8 Linux Users Bible, Red Hat 8 Linux Admin Bible and Red Hat 8 Networking Bible. Each of them could be smaller than this volume, but still cover the material in more detail.

Having said that, the material all seems accurate. The few times I noticed something that I thought was wrong, on checking I found that I was mistaken. So if want you really want is a broad (but in places shallow) overview of Red Hat Linux then this could well be the book for you.

And it's also cheaper than the "official" Red Hat Linux products.

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  1. Something like by wiredog · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Something like by dasunt · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have a copy of Running Linux, which I read as a newbie, and to say the truth, its not the first book I'd recommend to a linux newbie. I'd suggest Unix Power Tools and The Linux Cookbook. But don't take my word for it: there is a sample chapter of Unix Power Tools and the full text of the Linux Cookbook online.

      The reason I recommend the Linux Cookbook is that it tells what programs can do what things. As a newbie, I don't know how to use a scanner, or how to record a CD. (OTOH, the Linux Cookbook does tend to lean heavily towards Debian).

      Unix Power Tools is a must read because it is a thick collection of simple tricks of the trade. Plus, its a good example how to think like Unix. I'm not sure about you, but the reason why I run Linux on two of my computers is that it can get things done quickly and easily.

      Speaking of quickly and easily, I'd also have to strongly recommend Learning Perl as a primer to perl and the Perl Cookbook as a collection of perl snippets. Perl is a damn useful language to know, as Learning Perl says : "Making Easy Things Easy and Hard Things Possible".

      Anyways, my choices tend to be more 'how to do things' rather then 'how the current version or distro works'. Heck, other then for the Linux Cookbook, the rest are good reading for *BSD and other unix users. I prefer advocating the unix mentality instead of one specific distro or kernel.

      To be fair, I haven't read Running Linux in awhile. Perhaps my memory is cloudy. There is also the Linux Problem Solver, which I find a tad too simple and shallow, but might be helpful to a few people out there.

      Btw, I know book budgets tend to suck. (And O'Reilly books [or any technical book really]) tend to be budget breakers. However, at least one book chain that I know of (Barnes & Nobles) marks down O'Reilly books into the $10-or-so range when a new edition comes out, and for a few of the technical books, Ebay can offer a fraction of the cover price. Be wise though - I tend to avoid older editions if they were published pre-1998 or so unless I know the book is still relevant - the linux world is changing pretty fast.

      Just my $.02

      Hmmmm.... I wonder if I should have recommended a good book on LaTeX. For those unix users who have to type a lot of papers, LaTeX is worth taking a look at. Then again, I haven't found a good LaTeX book yet myself. :)

  2. Re:Ugh by lessthan0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There _is_ such a book. It's called Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition:

    http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/rute.html.gz

    Full text online, but the book is the best general linux book I've read. Buy one!

  3. Re:RH8 CD has too many references to manuals by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    You can down the manuals in PDF, HTML or ISO format from any of the mirrors.

    It's under the DOC directory.

    --

    Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.

  4. Re:What I want by lactose99 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The _Running Linux_ book from O'Reilly is a good start. I have one of the older editions (2nd edition), and it describes exactly what you are asking (minus the streaming MP3 server, which can be setup with some help from www.shoutcast.com or www.icecast.org). I hear the newer editions of this book focus more on the GUIs of Linux (KDE and Gnome), but I imagine that most of the core stuff is still there as well. Might be what your looking for.

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  5. Re:RH8 CD has too many references to manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Totally wrong. RH is actually really good at documenting their products.
    First of all, all the usual READMEs are in place:
    locate README | wc -l
    1392

    Check /usr/share/doc for full documentation on all installed packages.
    Furthermore, the complete documentation is available from their site, as usual:
    http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/

  6. Re:Hey Everybody... by davorg · · Score: 3, Informative
    Guess what Davorg got for Christmas!

    Sorry, no. My review copy was given to me earlier this month by the nice people at Diverse Books.

  7. Indeed, bible simply means book by kfg · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the case of the Christian doctrine it is *The* Book. In it's original usage a generic meaning to apply to the *particular* book was probably intentional. Early Christians could talk about "the book" in public without an outsider knowing what they were specifically talking about.

    You'll find the word used genercially even today in such words as bibliography and variations of the word are still the generic for book and library in many Latinate languages.

    Let me repeat. Bible is not a religious word, any more than, say, genesis is.

    You're right about the apple of course. There is no Biblical source for assuming this.

    Me, I rather guess that the actual fruit was a banana.

    KFG

  8. It's the CD, not the book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    And it's also cheaper than the "official" Red Hat Linux products.
    If the book includes a CD-ROM, buying the book is a great way for the bandwidth-challenged to get the RH distro, as well as a great big steaming heap of documentation. It would be nice though if the CD also included a large collection of HOWTOs.

  9. Re:Never use a Redhat x.0 release by wormbin · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised this post was marked as a troll since "don't use x.0" releases is a pretty good rule of thumb for redhat.

    Unfortunately, it's only a rule of thumb and not some absolute law. You really need to look at each distribution and make your own decision. I've run every version of red hat since 6.0 or so and I currently admin boxes that run 7.2, 7.3, and 8.0 and I have to say, redhat 8.0 is the best desktop linux I've ever seen. It really is leaps and bounds above 7.3

    Of course, my servers are all running 7.2 :)